http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=49164highlight=meteor
Australian astro photographer says he snapped a pic of a meteor
through his telescope. Its a 4 page thread so far, seems its up for
debate. Imagine that. What do you guys think?
IF this were a timed exposure, then the head would have been a constant
diameter along the trail. IMHO
Elton
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote:
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Aussie Photographs Meteor Through Telescope
To:
Absolutely *NOT* a meteor. And the astrophotographer's skin is very thin.
Stuart's posts have been rational, polite, helpful and (most importantly)
correct. I'm afraid the same cannot be said of many of Chris's counterposts.
--Rob
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Darren, list,
Ubi defecerit ratio, ibi est fidei aedificatio.
(in short: 'where reason fails, there faith constructs'.)
Augustine, Sermon 247
On a different subject: what do I have to expect to pay per gram for a
200g-300g fully crusted Bassikounou H5 meteorite?
Cheers
Werner Sandra
Hi Listees,
I've a question that I've been wondering about... All the fireball
chasing, and meteorite hunting aside. Is there any network of space
based asteroid detection using radar satelites? And if so how does that
or would that work? Would you be able to effectively see asteroids
with
I have an apparent major fireball sighting Simi Valley/ Thousand Oaks/Stockton
Just a heads up.
Elton
The ball of light was white and large and had a very long trail of smoke. It
was in the Simi Valley/Thousand Oaks area. Anyone else see it or know what it
is?
I saw the ball of light from
A friend of mine contacted me last night about the CA fireball. He said
he saw it too.
If anyone else has seen it, or if you have info regarding this fireball
you're encouraged to fill out a fireball report here:
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/blog/meteorite-information/report-a-fireball/
With virtual certainty, the image is not a meteor. I've seen images that
look like this caused by the mount doing a slew during the exposure.
Chris
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(Our) Chris wrote:
With virtual certainty, the image is not a meteor. I've seen images that
look like this caused by the mount doing a slew during the exposure.
.. and, by the way, Mr GregBradley should be a bit more careful when
using the word meteorite instead of the appropriate terms
IF this were a timed exposure, then the head would have been a constant
diameter along the trail. IMHO
I looked at this photo on the website and made a copy with which I
brightened and enlarged. In my opinion, this photo looks a lot like what I
would
expect of a meteor thru a small
It would be very helpful to know the diameter of the field and more
importantly, the RA and declination of the meteor. It's possibly
just a bright star that somehow left a trail. Anyone in contact with
the fellow who shot it?
Thanks,
Bob
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After reading the entire thread, I'd have to agree with your
assessment Rob. Chris (the astrophotographer) seems very defensive
when offered possible alternative explanations (like a slew off a
focus star with shutter open) for his interpreted meteor. Meteors
I've seen captured
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Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 3:46 AM
Hi Listees,
I've a
Perhaps more like this;
http://www.ursa.fi/ursa/jaostot/meteorit/images/meteorikuva1.jpg
(Photo by Eero Savolainen)
best,
pekka s
Gary Fujihara kirjoitti:
After reading the entire thread, I'd have to agree with your
assessment Rob. Chris (the astrophotographer) seems very defensive
when
I need to revise and extend my remarks from before. This probably is a meteor
in spite of our first judgments. I too piped in as an early naysayer because I
was thinking in the film paradigm. I've rethought the image in the digital
paradigm.
Long and boring and technical rationale:
I've
Steve said: I can't understand all the negative posts against
Spacifieds.com. It is a good idea who's time has come.
Hi Steve. I don't think anyone is bashing the website. It is a very good
idea and does look good. It was just the constant notifications that were
bothering us.
Regards,
Bob
Your understanding of how CCD's work is seriously flawed. (This camera uses
a CMOS sensor, but that doesn't really change anything). The sensor
passively collects photons during the exposure time, and then the value of
each pixel is read. It's really not much different from scanned film in that
Hey Bob, Anita, List,
Thanks for the plug for Spacifieds! I appreciate it. ;)
No problem, Eric. :-)
Also, Thank you very much for the kind words on what I'm doing Bob. I'm
trying against all odds, and fighting upstream and uphill, but it seems
to be working. We'll see.
It does look
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It's a nine-second exposure - why not a satellite? I don't know if a
long-term exposure of a satellite would result in a wiggly line, but
if it is as Elton says, possibly the result of the photographic
equipment used - well, any thoughts?
Regards,
Jason
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:20
Hi Jason and List,
The mystery was solved earlier today. The bright, trailed object is
beta Octans (near the celestial south pole). The 6+ additional trails
in the image are due to stars a few degrees outside of the initial
field of view that later slide across the image as the pointing slews
to
To clear things up, following some off-list discussions as well as
information provided on the Ice in Space forum, this is not an image of a
meteor. It is, in fact, an image of the star beta Octans, very near the
south celestial pole. The surrounding stars are readily identifiable using a
star
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Bottom line: not a meteor.
Well...after a lot of arm twisting and teeth pulling, I've finally
convinced Rob, Chris, Bernd and several other people that the aussie meteor
photo is actually that of a star. Well...not really. They convinced me. :O) I
have no doubt now that the image is a
Excellent work, Rob! What says the fellow who took it now that he
knows it's not a meteor?
Bob
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Rob Matsonmojave_meteori...@cox.net wrote:
Hi Jason and List,
The mystery was solved earlier today. The bright, trailed object is
beta Octans (near the celestial
Excellent work, Rob! What says the fellow who took it now that he
knows it's not a meteor?
To be fair...Chris had a big hand in it too.
GeoZay
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So far he says nothing at all. But much of this discussion probably happened
while he was sleeping. It's only now 7:30 am Sunday morning, his time. So
hopefully we'll have a response in the next couple of hours.
Chris
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Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait
Excellent work, Rob! What says the fellow who took it now that he
knows it's not a meteor?
To be fair...Chris had a big hand in it too.
Yes, Chris gave me the heads up that someone had made a new post
to the thread on Ice-in-Space earlier today with the astrometric
solution. So the real credit
Chris is right -- I doubt the guy is awake yet. There was a funny
post by Peter from Perth shortly after James ID'd the star field:
It looks like the ample proportioned female might be singing. Although
there was a lot of heat in this thread I think in the end the process
produced the best
Hi Darren,
I'm back to join the circle jerk! Please note: the following are just my
personal beliefs and I will completely recant it all upon being provided
credible evidence that I'm full of hooey.
So I'm a stupid Yahwehist? You're telling me to believe in alien beings
that live up in
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:59:47 -0400, you wrote:
I will not give you any more of my time other than to say that you are very,
very poorly educated in both biological sciences and rational thinking. You
think in simple, simplistic black and white terms (life is all or nothing) and
you are blind to
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This year I plan to drive to the Tucson show in a van that will be converted to
a meteorite hunting RV. It will be a 1 ton or Dodge Sprinter body, so it is not
that big, no slide-outs etc.
I have a few questions, would you mind sharing some of your Tucson info? (off
list
Phil,
Urey's experiment was fewer than 60 years ago and we've barely
scratched the surface on Mars. You seem willing to give up so easily.
Science succeeds through persistence and persistence takes time. How
many centuries has humankind wanted to fly? Hundreds, thousands of
years? It finally
Bob:
What do you mean when you say there was no evidence for the composition of
the stars? It was right there in the form of meteorites, but people then
were a lot dumber than today. All those dummies had to do was analyse a
meteorite and they would know what the sun was made of. This isn't
Hi Pat,
Good questions. I'm interested to hear what kind of answers you get
from the show vets.
I am converting a short school bus into a boondocking-RV (meteorite
hunting also - The Bolide Bus) and plan to attend in the show in the
RV as well - to save on hotel bills. But, I don't know if I
Please remove me from the meteorite list, Thank You
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Phil, List,
Your skepticism is only outweighed by your unbound and pure contempt for
anything other than your own absolute belief in nothing but what you see
before your eyes. The only problem is your eyes are slammed shut!
You're not a doubter or a skeptic. Doubters and skeptics believe in
Phil,
Back in the olden days (pre-18th century), meteorites from the sun was
not a leading theory. They were generally understood as being formed
by things like fire, earthly vapors and lightning. This is yet another
example of how ignorance was gradually transformed into understanding
by
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:37:50 -0400, you wrote:
were a lot dumber than today. All those dummies had to do was analyse a
meteorite and they would know what the sun was made of.
Yes, cuse the lack of forsight of medieval, Renaissance and Victorian scientists
for not running meteorite samples
Ok Darren,
Fine by me, I'm getting sick of the subject anyway, as I'm sure everybody
else is. You won't subscribe to my religion and I won't subscribe to yours ,
so the whole matter is moot.
Just one parting shot though, before, in the words of the immortal Chicago
Steve: I promise to
Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya.Oh crap...I don't know any of the other
words. Anyhow...Everybody all together Now! :O)
GeoZay
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you beat me to it George, I was gonna say:
in the immortal words of Rodney King:
“Can't we all... just... get along?”
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Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya.Oh crap...I don't know any of the other
words. Anyhow...Everybody all together Now! :O)
Hello everyone,
I've just had an auction I was bidding on cancelled a few hours before it was
to close.
eBay seller pat31416 (name on a shown label Pat Mulvany) had listed two small
fragments of meteorite oxide from the Lanton meteorite. The auctions were
listed with starting bids of $.99.
Eric,
No, there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, it's guarded by a
leprechaun riding a unicorn. And I don't need any evidence to prove it
either!!! Because as we all know, anything is possible if you just want to
believe it badly enough! ;)
Phil Whitmer
Is canceling ebay fixed price listings something that is considered acceptable?
I know I end items all the time that sell off ebay, but they are fixed price -
I would not end any auctions for low bids.
I agree, ending auction style listings should not be done if there are bids,
but what us
Don,
Thanks for the info. EBay seller pat31416 aka Pat Mulvany is now on my Do
Not Buy list.
Dave
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Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:56 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] More eBay cancelled
Bob:
You're right, I stand corrected. I collect old encylopedias, reading them
is fascinating. I think it was one from the 1860's where they were talking
about the current consensual theory of meteorites being thrown off the sun.
I was confusing that with some other historical meteorite
G'Day List
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Sorry list, I'm trying to
Phil,
This is the last response on this subject I will make to you directly.
An intellectually appropriate response to your responses would be simply.
_...
Eric
Phil Whitmer wrote:
Eric,
No, there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, it's guarded by
Darren,
Yes they were fools. See my reference to Democritus and Diogenes. These men
and the other Greek Classical Philosophers, weren't fools. (With the
possible exception of Aristotle.) They pretty much laid the groundwork for
everything we know today, and they did it in the 5th Century
I had the chance to use a pair of extension tubes on my Xsi with the 50mm lense
so I took some shots of some of the meteorites my father and I have found.
Enjoy =]
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/phxerik/?action=viewcurrent=EHB2.jpg
I wanted to see how small of a stone I could snap so
Eric,
I'm sorry you feel that way, I was just using Pro Lifer logic. I tried to
use humor instead of a personal attack. I'm starting to tire of being
called stupid and ignorant because I won't go along with the consensual
reality consensus around here which is: I believe in Little Green Men
Hi Don and List,
FWIW, I would never cancel an auction with bids because the bidding
was too slow or disappointing. I may end a listing that has no bids
at all, but never if it already has bids. I just don't think it's
ethical. (unless there is a valid reason like the item was broken or
lost)
G'Day Don
Send him a question, ask why he cancelled it. If you don't, I will. I'm
curious, I doubt if I'll get a reply, but at least I'll give it a try.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be a poet.
Cheers
John
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Dear List,
A photo of the 17JUL09 bolide over Italy has been posted:
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/
Best Always, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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