Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in your Carry-On Luggage

2009-11-17 Thread Peter Davidson
Kevin When I travelled to Ensisheim this year (Edinburgh - London - Basel), I carried my display specimens, including some very valuable specimens from our collection, and comprising all types of meteorite, in my hand luggage without any problems. I cannot speak for all carriers, but as far as I

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Fred, Maurizio, Graham, On the contrary, it is generally accepted the the vast majority of the jagged shrapnel fragments found were formed when the larger masses came into direct contact with permafrost and bedrock. Such is said by Buchwald, Krinov, and..., well, to be frank, I've gone through

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread ensoramanda
Hi Fred, List, How does that explain all the shrapnel found in the sides of the trees or holes straight through standing trees? Surely shrapnel was produced both on the way down and on impact? I have pieces that seem to have no sign of ablation, just lots of shear lines. Graham, Uk

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hi Graham, Jason, Fred, Maurizio and all, I quote from the 50's Russian Academy of Sciences Sikhote Alin Recovery Film... On some individuals, some of the freshly broken edges were slightly melted. It indicated that all meteorites were from one mass which fragmented in the Earth's

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Graham, All, On the contrary, the typical pieces of shrapnel found were in my opinion formed exclusively on impact - the force of the explosive impacts was certainly adequate to drive sizable fragments through practically any tree (well, let's exclude things like Sequoias...). There are

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - November 17, 2009

2009-11-17 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_17_2009.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] Leonids Meteor Picture

2009-11-17 Thread Mike Hankey
I captured a Leonids picture last night! http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/leonoid.jpg At the time I was focused on Procyon and shooting continuously and waiting and watching. I saw a meteor radiate directly out of Procyon and was like NO WAY! But I check the camera

[meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi all, With all the talk about melting and twisting of metal on the Sikhote Alin meteorite it got me to wondering what very fresh fusion crust looks like on an iron meteorite. I mean like the day it fell fresh, and not like the Sikhote. Everyone here pretty much knows what fresh crust

Re: [meteorite-list] earth rocks that contain nickel

2009-11-17 Thread Randy Korotev
Mike: I have some plots here of Ni concentrations in Earth rocks compared to meteorites: http://meteorites.wustl.edu/metcomp/ni.htm All the white symbols are Earth rocks; the colored and black symbols are meteorites. Chondrites start at 10,000 ppm (=1.0%). Irons aren't plotted, but

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Fat, dull, rough, dark-grey to dark-brown. Boguslavka: http://www.fmm.ru/metpictures/bogus.jpg Cabin Creek http://www.austromet.com/Museum_24082005_07.jpg Treysa http://www.gi-po.de/meteorit_treysa_1g.jpg Sikhote-Alin http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Dec1.html and so on. Cheers, Martin

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread Darren Garrison
I was under the impression (read it somewhere) that most modern=collected Sikhote-Alin fragments are rusty and are cleaned in rock tumblers. If so, could not that dull/round formerly sharp edges and make them look melted? __

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Martin, Thank you for sharing... Those photos are a little too distant to see any detail... I can see it has a satin like, or velvety like surface, but a closeup of the surface detail is what I was looking for. Anyone? Those are gorgeous irons by the way! Regards, Eric Martin Altmann

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Well for close-ups you have to come to Vienna, the most beautiful display hall for meteorites on Earth - with a lot of iron falls. Best is, you're planning your visit to Ensiheim with a stop-over in Vienna before. :-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:

Re: [meteorite-list] Leonids Meteor Picture

2009-11-17 Thread Thomas Webb
Neat Mike! Thanks, Thomas --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Leonids Meteor Picture To: Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org, meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Michael Johnson
Good example of S-A: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30591...@n04/2983976145/sizes/o/ Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:34:47 PM

[meteorite-list] Nickel test

2009-11-17 Thread meteoriteman
Hi everyone, recently while testing some of my possible meteorites finds from the Park Forest strewnfield, I made an interesting discovery. I use the method described in the Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites by Richard Norton, test method 2. I inadvertently left the specimen soaking in the

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Dark Matter
Hi Eric, Here are a few closeup pics of fusion crust on the iron named Bogou: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2009/august/Accretion_Desk.htm Best, Martin H. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi all, With all the talk about melting

[meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Tomasz Jakubowski
Hello, also good example of Sikhote : http://picasaweb.google.pl/illaenus/SikhoteAlin230grams# Kind Regards Tomek Jakubowski IMCA #2321 Dnia 17-11-2009 o godz. 18:59 Michael Johnson napisał(a): Good example of S-A: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30591...@n04/2983976145/sizes/o/ Michael

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha Tomek and Martin, what marvelous examples of fusion crust with flowlines on iron meteorites. Thank you for sharing those images with the list. *now if only I could get them to share their specimens with me* ;^) gary On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Tomasz Jakubowski wrote: Hello, also

Re: [meteorite-list] Leonids Meteor Picture

2009-11-17 Thread Greg Stanley
Mike: Really cool.  Nice pic. Thanks for sharing. Greg S. Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:47:47 -0500 From: mike.han...@gmail.com To: meteor...@meteorobs.org; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Leonids Meteor Picture I

[meteorite-list] Earth rocks that contain nickel

2009-11-17 Thread bernd . pauli
Randy kindly wrote: I have some plots here of Ni concentrations in Earth rocks compared to meteorites...Note that many achondrites (HED, lunar, martian) have Ni in the range of terrestrial rocks. That's because they don't have (much) FeNi metal http://meteorites.wustl.edu/metcomp/ni.htm

[meteorite-list] Dawn Enters Asteroid Belt -- For Good

2009-11-17 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=2361 Dawn Enters Asteroid Belt -- For Good Jet Propulsion Laboratory November 13, 2009 ASTEROID BELT -- NASA's Dawn spacecraft re-entered our solar system's asteroid belt today, Nov. 13, and this time it will stay there. Dawn first entered

[meteorite-list] NASA's Wise Gets Ready to Survey the Whole Sky

2009-11-17 Thread Ron Baalke
Nov. 17, 2009 J.D. Harrington Headquarters, Washington 202-358-5241 j.d.harring...@nasa.gov Whitney Clavin Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-4673 whitney.cla...@jpl.nasa.gov RELEASE: 09-269 NASA'S WISE GETS READY TO SURVEY THE WHOLE SKY WASHINGTON -- NASA's

[meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice update

2009-11-17 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/puerto_lapice_spain_meteorite_hunt.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Jerry Flaherty
Best examples I've yet to see. Thanks for the tutorial -- From: Dark Matter freequa...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:05 PM To: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re:

[meteorite-list] Kansas father, son suspect meteorite landed in backyard of their Liberal home

2009-11-17 Thread Greg Stanley
List: Anyone hear about this story? Or is anyone in the area? Greg S. http://www.fox4kc.com/news/sns-ap-ks--meteoritelands,0,7509187.story Kansas father, son suspect meteorite landed in backyard of their Liberal home By Associated Press 4:01 AM CST, November 17, 2009 LIBERAL, Kan. (AP) —

Re: [meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice update

2009-11-17 Thread Mirko Graul
Hi Michael and List, wow,congratulations to Robert´s stone of 16grams !! Incredible !! Many greetings Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical

Re: [meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice update

2009-11-17 Thread Jack Schrader
Way to go Robert!  Gorgeous stoneGood luck to the rest of the Puerto Lapice team in the coming days!  Jack - Original Message From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 12:19:20 PM Subject:

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Thank you ALL! Martin, Tomasz, Michael, List, Fabulous! Exactly what I was looking for... Thank you for sharing! Those are perfect examples of fusion crusted irons, and some of the most beautiful meteorites I've seen. I'm sure everyone agrees, those are gorgeous! It really gives you a good

Re: [meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice update

2009-11-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Awesome! Great job Robert, Happy birthday! Keep it up guys... Regards, Eric Michael Johnson wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/puerto_lapice_spain_meteorite_hunt.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice update

2009-11-17 Thread Greg Stanley
You gotta love that fusion crust... amazing. Congratulations to the team there. Well it's like Bob Haag always said, you find meteorites where they have been found before.  Something like that. Greg S. Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:19:20 -0800 From:

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread debfred
Darren, I just looked at 119 individual pieces of shrapnel fragments under a microscope. They are rather small and range in size from 30 grams to less than one gram. It looks to me that every one of them shows some feature of melting. many have roll over rims, melted grooves, fusion crust

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Jerry Flaherty
yes indeedy -- From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:59 PM To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

[meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite

2009-11-17 Thread Greg Stanley
List: Does anyone have of know (where) I can download a picture of a K-chondrite; preferable with the fusion crust. Thanks, Greg S. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM

[meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite

2009-11-17 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi Greg and List, Hardly any photos of Kakangaris exist. You'll find one on David Weir's excellent website: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/ Click on chondrites and then scroll down to Kakangari! Thin section pics of Kakangari can be found here (on pages 202-205): D.S. LAURETTA, M. KILLGORE

Re: [meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice update

2009-11-17 Thread Greg Catterton
Awesome find, good luck out there. Look forward to more updates. Greg C. PS, Sorry Greg S... sent it to you instead! --- On Tue, 11/17/09, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Puerto Lapice update To:

[meteorite-list] Moon, Mars, Unclassified, Minerals, Fossils - AD

2009-11-17 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List Members, Late Spring Cleaning, I need to make room for more!!! ~ Another week and another assortment of goodies to ponder. Starting tomorrow (Wednesday, Nov. 18th) I have a number of planetary and other ultra-rare meteorites ending on eBay. In addition to these, I have several

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hey, Here's another Sikhote to compare - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cameteoritefinder/2335664239/sizes/l/ Regards, Jason On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Jerry Flaherty g...@comcast.net wrote: yes indeedy -- From: Michael Johnson

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Maurizio, Graham, Jeff, Fred, Darren, All, I think Darren's hit on the fact of it - as I noted in my original post: Many batches of shrapnel do appear to be somewhat ablated due to the method by which they have been cleaned (tumbling with ball bearings tends to wear corners down and gives the

Re: [meteorite-list] Kansas father, son suspect meteorite landed in backyard of their Liberal home

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, A '2-inch' meteorite just made a 1 foot deep hole? Well, I suppose the rock could be a meteorite - I wasn't able to find any pictures online - but it sure sounds like the kid is lying about the impact and the hole it made, unless it landed in a pile of soft sand. That's just too big of

[meteorite-list] Younger Dryas mini ice age

2009-11-17 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, A newly published paper on the Younger Dryas mini ice age. Mini ice age took hold of Europe in months * 11 November 2009 by Kate Ravilious * Magazine issue 2734. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. * For similar stories, visit the Climate Change Topic Guide JUST months -

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

2009-11-17 Thread Linton Rohr
Ooh...very nice detail, Jason! Linton - Original Message - From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons Hey, Here's another Sikhote to

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread ensoramanda
Amazing piece with bubbles Jason, Been trying to figure out how that could happen. It does not look like it happened due to melt during the fall but more like a feature from pre-entry, exposed after fragmenting. What are your thoughts...I can't think of any other irons with bubbles. Regards

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite / Could this be one of the rarest meteorites found?

2009-11-17 Thread wahlperry
Hi Bernd and list, Would this be one of the rarest meteorites ever found? If not, what meteorite would be? Thanks, Sonny -Original Message- From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 1:12 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Photo of a

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite / Could this be one of the rarest meteorites found?

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Sonny, All, I've often thought about such a term - the rarest meteorite. The rarest meteorite would of course be smallest ungrouped meteorite, for one could feasibly conceive of a 1-2g unique meteorite. When a new type is named, however, a hype generally surrounds it - rather like the

Re: [meteorite-list] Info on Sikhote Alin's shrapnel

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Graham, All, Well, there's always Albion, though that's quite a different beast. I believe the druzy vugs found in that are accepted to be a product of impact melting, as per Buchwald. By the look of the specimen, I think it's safe to say that the bubbles are the result of an accumulation

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite / Could this be one of the rarest meteorites found?

2009-11-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Jason, list, Maybe I don't quite understand... ;) The size of an individual meteorite whether ungrouped or even a previously unknown type or new classification would not be the deciding factor in determining rarity at all would it? If of course you consider the major factor concerning

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite / Could this be one of the rarest meteorites found?

2009-11-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hola Eric, All, You're only talking about collector availability, which is a kind of skewed way of looking at things, in my opinion. I'm talking about rarity in the sense of how much of a given material is known, material being the term for meteoric matter of a given structure and chemical

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite / Could this be one of the rarest meteorites found?

2009-11-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Hey Jason, I agree with you, I'm just teasing you a bit... ;) You needn't defend your definition. The simplest point is that there is more than one factor involved in determining the rarity of a meteorite, or individual type. It can be all the above, and/or just one factor, as in your rare

Re: [meteorite-list] ON EBAY---Nice Meteorites in Gem cases with I.D. Cards!!

2009-11-17 Thread Becky and Kirk
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite / Could this be one of the rarest meteorites found?

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
Hey Sonny, wasn't this answered recently on the list, but to another question? Hadley Rille -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 11/17/09, wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: From: wahlpe...@aol.com wahlpe...@aol.com Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Photo of a K-chondrite / Could this be one of the rarest meteorites found?

2009-11-17 Thread Frank Cressy
  Hello all, Thought this might be of some interest concerning the rarest meteorite, at least from a historical viewpoint.  At the beginning of the Twentieth Century, Henry A. Ward thought Nobleborough (1823 Maine fall) was one of the rarest of the meteorites he owned.  At this time Ward owned