Hi, there
If you are interested in collecting meteorite fragments from a presently
undiscovered impact crater please give me a call. I am a South African
citizen, and I have been using goolge earth for a separate research, when
I suddenly recognised a meteor crater. But the problem is that, here
Hi Richard,
Chladnite is a synonym for enstatite and was a synonym for the aubrites
among the meteorites.
That mineral name was introduced by Charles U. Shepard (1804-1886) in 1846
when he firstly observed enstatite in the 1843 fallen Bishopville aubrite,
to honor Ernst Florens Friedrich Chladni
Hello List,
Richard wrote: Chladnite? I see this fall is now classified as a
diogenite but could anyone discuss the term Chladnite a bit more?
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TSCHERMAK G. (1885) Die mikroskopische Beschaffenheit der
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:49:00 +0200 (SAST), you wrote:
have to report it to goverment museum. So good people I'm sorry, I won't
report or give any details about it, unless I will get something in
return, obviously I need money as well. I have contacted the museum but
they told me that it belong to
Hi Bill,
A feed store is a good place also. And possibly your local vet.
Best regards,
MikeG
On 8/24/10, Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com wrote:
another place to have large pieces weighed if you dont own a scale would be
at a certified scale at the supermarket checkout. Or at an
Yes this has been all over the news. My only problem with it is we are
talking low earth orbit not the far reaches of the solar system, I'd
like to see them survive away from the protection of the earth's mag
field before I get too excited...
Mark Ford
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From:
As soon as everyone stops using metal detectors and magnet canes to look for
meteorites then the first Lunars in Europe or USA will eventually be found,
until then!
Mark
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From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Hi Mark and List,
Good point. Most newbie hunters ignore anything that doesn't stick to
a magnet. I wonder how many lunars have been passed over in favor of
an ugly, weathered OC? LOL
Best regards,
MikeG
On 8/24/10, Mark Ford mark.f...@ssl.gb.com wrote:
As soon as everyone stops using
My only problem with it is we are
talking low earth orbit not the far reaches of the solar system, I'd
like to see them survive away from the protection of the earth's mag
field before I get too excited...
I would like to agree with you here, but to be honest, I believe it was
the surveyer
Yes it's got to be a massive factor in skewing the statistics, plus some
lunars from first glance look like some of the native rocks of the USA
and Europe which won't help. Factor all this in and it's the reason we
haven't found any yet, statistically 3 or 4 USA lunar finds is quite
easy to
Thanks Geo,
FinallyI was waiting for someone else to bring this up. This was
documented YEARS ago too obviously. I believe in was the crew from Apollo 12
that brought it back.
I think everyone has their proof right there. The virus survived no
problem---on the Moon-and in the vacuum
Granted but, the moon is still a relatively sheltered place though,
nothing like deep space. Additionally Virus's have a significantly lower
cross section to cosmic radiation than bacteria do.
A few hundred days in low earth orbit is nothing like a few hundred
million years, which is about the
test
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Hello advanced iron meteorite collectors
-come to me!
We have to offer something new
and a really spectacular collection specimen
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For those interested or who purchased some of this, I got an email from Tony
Irving with more detailed info on the NWA 6291 angrite.
NWA 6291 Achondrite (angrite, metal-rich)
Annealed breccia composed of Al-Ti-diopside (Fs10.8+/-0.05Wo53.0+/-0.05,
FeO/MnO = 114, Al2O3 = 7.7-7.9 wt.%, TiO2 = 1.3
Consider a FedEx shipping location or a retailer who ships via FedEx
regularly. The electronic shipping scales FedEx supplies to us measure up to
75 pounds with two decimal place accuracy. I just weighed a letter on one.
It weighed 0.05 pounds or 8/10ths of an ounce. This agreed with a separate
Hi Folks,
I just thought of something that seems overly-obvious - the bathroom scale.
It's not accurate to the level required for selling micromounts, but
for big 70kg specimens, getting within a pound is probably good enough
for most buyers - people aren't exactly paying by the gram when you
I've found that digital bathroom floor scales will weigh in kilos, or pounds,
accurately to a tenth up to 300 lbs. I bought a nice flat one from Wahlgreens
drugstore for $15.00...
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536
-Original Message-
From: Fred Bieler f...@astronomics.com
Sent: Aug 24, 2010 10:58
BURKE J.G. (1986) Cosmic Debris, Meteorites in History, Chapter 4, p. 121:
Chladnite:
Again, it was an observation by Charles U. Shepard that paved the way toward the
identification of the pyroxenes. In 1846 he described a mineral which, he wrote,
is a ter-silicate of magnesia...[and] forms more
Mark wrote:
As soon as everyone stops using metal detectors and magnet canes
to look for meteorites then the first Lunars in Europe or USA
will eventually be found, until then!
I have never used a magnet cane, nor will I ever, and I always
advise new hunters against their use. A magnet
It is true that if you depend on a magnet, you will not find a planetary
meteorite. I found the small 50 gram half of NWA 1195 in a Moroccan discard
pile, same for other planetary pieces. It was placed there because it was not
magnetic and did not have a crust. They sent rocks that bothered
Curious about the magnetic properties of meteorites as well. We all know
that you can magnetize metal just by placing it near a powerful magnet.
I read yesterday in Richard Kowalski's post about Brother Guy
Consolmagno's visit to Tucson. Dr Concolmagno's research also includes
the study of
Hi, Gang,
First, it was Streptococci -- bacteria, not viruses --
that were found in the Surveyor camera body.
They were discovered, needless to say, after pieces
were returned to Earth.
That raised the question of contamination in the
Receiving lab. Much was made of it at the time,
but after
List:
I use a magnet cane - in fact it it super strong. But I must point out that I
do not rely on it. I use my eyes mostly. I look for the rock shape, texture
and color. I think the shape is very important. I check if it is smooth and
that the edges are rounded - like a partly polished
List:
Also one more quick point:
For fresh falls - I never use a magnet cane or metal detector, and use my eyes
100%.
Greg S.
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:10:10 -0700
From: robert.d.mat...@saic.com
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject:
Magnetic canes and similar can add to, alter or destroy the magnetic imprint on
a meteorite. So, however, does the Earth's own magentic field after a time (OK,
a long time, but not *that* long). In general, only very recently fallen
meteorites are useful for magnetic domain studies. However, a
Hi List,
The evilness of magnet canes is well known throughout history. In
fact, Satan uses a 3-pronged magnet cane that is often mistaken for a
pitchfork. An old 14th century woodcut in the tome Of Meteors and
Devils (trans), a depiction of Satan is clearing seen and about his
feet are several
Hello Eric,
Respectfully,
I think your statement is outrageous, especially coming from the creator of the
upcoming Meteorite Hunting Magazine. How can you make a statement that is in
opposition to what you are promoting?
There is nothing wrong with using a meteorite stick!
Meteorite Hunting is
Hi List,
Few nice auctions ending soon. Please take a look:
http://stores.ebay.com/svassiliev
Thanks!
Sergey
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Dear List,
You are invited to take a peek at some new and interesting additions to the
sales page:
http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/Sales.html
New additions include:
A larger Norton County with crust - BEST price you will see on this size.
An interesting original photo from
Hello All,
Here is an abstract by Dr. Ben Weiss of MIT, the same scientists who took a
core sample from my angrite, NWA 4931 (main mass of the NWA 2999 grouping):
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/2143.pdf
While magnetism 'sampling' from NWA 4931(NWA 2999) indicated it was most
Hi John, List,
Who the heck said I was experienced?! ;) LOL I'm sure there are people
who'd argue against that... (they'd be wrong, but that doesn't stop the
their BS now does it?)
No offense meant. I think you took what I was saying personally and the
wrong way. I never said magnets are
Believe it or not, It is illegal to carry a magnet on a stick or any other
searching device into some areas of California for the purpose of locating a
resource. Get caught with a magnetic cane or no permit on Ivanpah Dry Lake bed
for example and you will be in big trouble with the BLM. Any
Hello All,
Eric Actually has something of a valid point, I think.
I've heard that using a rare-earth magnet on a planetary meteorite can
realign the magnetic domains within the stone. While that may not
seem too important, some people have studied the magnetic properties
of martian meteorites as
Robert wrote:
I sometimes carry an LL6 with meThat usually cures them.
Ah, come on you guys. You talk like we relative newbies are a sandwich short
of your picnic. I carry a very powerful (+50) neomydium on a staff I use, cause
I'm a cripple and I don't like to fall down, or bend over.
Hi Listees (and especially webmasters),
The Meteorite Top Sites list is taking shape and we now have 11
websites participating. As expected, all of the sites are receiving
much more traffic than they are sending to the list. The tally would
be even higher, but I have manually re-ranked the list
Bill and List,
Thats a serious piece of equipment. Put little plates on the feet to spread the
load so you don't sink in and a nice mag on the end of the cane.. And...I
almost forgot...most of the real hunters would paint it camo.
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536
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From: bill
They (the BLM) don't want to allow meteorite collecting but they will allow
ATV's to race and tear up the lake bed.
- Original Message -
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re:
yeah it's pretty crazy - I suppose if you said you were from down south, up
here
looking for work, they wouldn't mind a bit...
- Original Message
From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Cc: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense. But few things do when it
comes to the more arcane aspects of laws and regulations. And think
of all the oil and fluids that drip from those ATV's.
On 8/24/10, R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net wrote:
They (the BLM) don't want to allow meteorite
Hi everyone I have reached into my cabinet and pulled out some really
great collection pieces. I have a super nice Gibeon full slice with a
huge inclusion, 120.1 grams. I have an awesome 81.7 gram Sikhote with
a hole right through the center of it...very nice. Last but not least
a 19.9 gram Gold
My modified ski pole (with Magnet) is more a walking stick and snake flipper!
I have a question, Has anyone ever found small tektites around the Holbrook?
I know if there were, that they were not the result of the Holbrook splatter.
While there Sunday, I found what is either an egg shaped
From ASU: http://asunews.asu.edu/20100823_bouvier
Timescales of early Solar System processes rely on precise, accurate and
consistent ages obtained with radiometric dating. However, recent advances in
instrumentation now allow scientists to make more precise measurements, some of
which are
Ooops, heading should read 2 million.
On Aug 24, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Gary Fujihara wrote:
From ASU: http://asunews.asu.edu/20100823_bouvier
Timescales of early Solar System processes rely on precise, accurate and
consistent ages obtained with radiometric dating. However, recent advances in
I know these laws don't always make sense. I think they are trying to protect
the Indian artifacts more than anything else by these no searching device
rules.
The last I checked, these artifacts were made of stone not metal so who knows
what the lawmakers were thinking. Most listen too much of
Hi Count/List,
No need for anyone to get defensive -- many people use a meteorite cane
because their backs are shot. I have compressed lumbar discs, so I have
lived with chronic back pain for years. Bending over a thousand times
per meteorite hunting day does take its toll. (I consequently bend
Adam,
I think the Antiquities Act is being abused much like the Commerce Clause has
been. It was about archaeological sites, but now it's anything the government
perceives as a possible way to get money. In my experience interpretation and
enforcement is arbitrary, and will continue to be as
Hi Adam,
I have a question. Does anybody know why Roach Dry Lake is
closed in Nevada?
Last time I was there, it was closed by some development corporation,
presumably in expectation of building a Southern Nevada Supplemental
Airport, pending an environmental impact assessment. I just found
Go Guido Go.
Very well put.
As Daiid Vann put it earlier in his post. . Magnets don't always kill
meteorites.
For what it's worth, Tony Irving says to break a small piece off and check that
for magnetism.
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
countde...@earthlink.net wrote:
Robert
Next time I'm hunting in an area that will take me hours from my vehicle I'll
be using one of these. Ideal if you have bad knees, hips, back and don't want
to recline in the dirt or a farm field sprayed with pesticides, herbicides,
liquid manure or whatever. It will have a magnet on the tip of
The truth is the law has not been changed. The new attitude is the result
of a policy change mandated internally by the BLM. They are using the
antiquities law to prosecute. I do not believe this has been challenged as
of yet.
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From:
No it's not been challenged. Yet... Internal Policy, nor
misinterpretation of vague/broad Acts, is not law.
Eric
On 8/24/2010 3:55 PM, David Norton wrote:
The truth is the law has not been changed. The new attitude is the result
of a policy change mandated internally by the BLM. They are
[Sorry for the premature send, and possible repeat of this post]
Hi Adam,
I have a question. Does anybody know why Roach Dry Lake is closed in
Nevada?
Last time I was there, it was closed by some development corporation,
presumably in expectation of building a Southern Nevada Supplemental
List:
When I got into meteorite hunting and decided to make a magnet cane, I thought
about how to make it and this show Becker came on; it starts Ted Dansen as a
grumpy Doctor and noticed that the blind man walked across the street and into
a diner and sat at a table. As he sat, he folded
Thanks, Greg
Very cool. You can hide it from the big bad BLM nazis. I carry a telescoping
magnetic mechanic's part recovery wand to which I taped the exact same diameter
neomydium on the end. Carry it concealed, like my sidearm, everywhere.
Guido
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From: Thunder
Hi Count, Greg and List,
Rare earth magnets are manufactured by the Chinese in a wide variety
of shapes and sizes, including some flat discs that would fit very
fell on the bottom of a shoe or inside the shoe under the insole. ;)
Best regards,
MikeG
On 8/24/10, countde...@earthlink.net
This (below) involves a thread in which there
Is not one word about using a magnet cane,
Yet they were all posted with the subject
Box reading Magnet Canes are evil
Or Magnet Canes are evil DON'T THINK SO
Please change the subject box when the
Subject changes.
I may not want to
Thanks to all for the input, I went to Mail Boxes etc. and they
offered to weigh them for free. I think their scale is accurate to
around 100 grams. These meteorites will be for sale, and I don’t want
to short anyone. Good thing is their not lunar, or anything to special
that way, so this should
Martin:
Are you talking about advanced age, or advanced resources? I have
found that I have turned a corner where I collected stoney meteorites,
but now have developed a taste for Irons. Yes, I know it leaves a
funny taste in your mouth, but what the heck. It probably is because I
have found a
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/August_25_2010.html
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