[meteorite-list] NASA Can't Explain Strange Spiral

2010-10-06 Thread Meteorites USA
Scientists are baffled by a strange spiral phenomenon. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1774.html Kind of OT, but very cool looking... Are we looking at the birth of a star? Is that dust? Gas? Both? Any scientists out there have any opinions? Regards, Eric

Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]

2010-10-06 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Interesting the fact that Norbert Classen underlines in his utmost readable text that since prehistoric times, meteorites have been worshiped and venerated by c o u n t l e s s tribes etc. That could be the chance of Herr Meyer :-) Best, Matthias - Original Message -

Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]

2010-10-06 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Nice photograph of the Hajar al-Aswad also here: http://www.toursaudiarabia.com/kaaba/kaaba-3-high.html Thank you, Sterling, for pointing to Ted's adventure. Same subject, approached by our friend from Poland Jan Woreczko:

Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Cratering Book

2010-10-06 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Hi All, Just had to share thiswhen this post came up after all the talk of eating meteorites I completely misread it and thought there was actually a new Meteorite CATERING book!!gave me a good laugh anyway. So anyone got any recipes to go with the Tucson Auction Cake? Perhaps we can put

[meteorite-list] Green Glowing Meteorites?

2010-10-06 Thread David Gunning
Hi All, While checking-out available video footage of meteor falls I notice there appears to be a green colored glow emitting from the front of some meteors. Is this due to air pollution or is there another possible cause such as a chemical composition of particularly green glowing meteors

Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]

2010-10-06 Thread Martin Altmann
Well, the black stone.. it survived a fire, it was stolen and broken in pieces and mounted together again... Honestly, I don't have the mineralogic experience, how a chondrite would like after being touched and kissed for millions of times over the centuries :-) Probably not so nice anymore, I

Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Catering Book

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Ford
Haha - me too, I had to read it three times to see Cratering! Must be lunchtime Just for fun: - There must be some 'edible' meteorite related cuisine, I remember the classic Eclipse cakes during the last total eclipse in Europe, rock cakes of course any more anyone? Mark -Original

[meteorite-list] Munich 2010

2010-10-06 Thread Peter Davidson
Hi Listees Anyone going this year? Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals   Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh  EH5 1JA Scotland Tel: 00 44 131 247 4283 E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk Shining Lights, the story of Scotland’s lighthouses

Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Catering Book

2010-10-06 Thread Steve Dunklee
lots of minerals for good health! I don't think the aluminium in cai's would be very healthy for you and manganese or iron in high concentrations can be fatal. Especially in youngsters or rodents. Nantans ground up and mixed with grain would make a nice rodent poison. Rust makes severe

Re: [meteorite-list] Munich 2010

2010-10-06 Thread Zelimir Gabelica
Hi Peter, Philippe Schmitt-Kopplin and myself will be visiting GEOFA on Friday 29. Hope to see you there and share with you some good local lager... Best wishes, Zelimir At 15:06 06/10/2010, Peter Davidson wrote: Hi Listees Anyone going this year? Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals

[meteorite-list] WG: Close-up of Iron Martian Meteorite

2010-10-06 Thread Martin Altmann
Uh Mike, will you beat me up, when I say, that for me in such pictures the soil around is always more fascinating, hence Mars itself instead of Campo on Mars? Eeeek.. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Can't Explain Strange Spiral

2010-10-06 Thread Kelly Beatty
Eric... Scientists are baffled by a strange spiral phenomenon. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1774.html Are we looking at the birth of a star? Is that dust? Gas? Both? Any scientists out there have any opinions? NASA's caption is misleading. scientists actually

Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Close-up of Iron Martian Meteorite

2010-10-06 Thread Martin Altmann
Uh, Also that rock, which is without any doubts an iron meteorite, causes an intellectual problem for me. You know, some people/countries state that one essential property, a immanent property of any meteorite, whether found or not, is, that it is a c u l t u r a l heritage. What shall we

Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Close-up of Iron Martian Meteorite

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Ford
Hi Martin, Technically there are space treaty's that are already in place, though not everyone is signed up or ratified (as usual with treaty's!). So no nation has recognized rights of ownership over space. (Basically this is a massive cop out), and as far as i'm concerned whoever recovers

Re: [meteorite-list] [Fwd: Re: Meteorite miniatures]

2010-10-06 Thread countdeiro
Thank you, Matthias, Martin, Sterling, Chris and others I may have inadvertantly missed for providing such comprehensive science, photography and speculation on the provenance and composition of the Hajar-al-Aswad. I also thank Ted and Jan for sharing their experience and images. I'm pleased

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Densities - Brother Guy

2010-10-06 Thread Steve Dunklee
or for the cheap people ordinary playground white sand purchased at wal mart cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] AD - Sale page update: BRA - EUC - DIO - HOW - CC - OC

2010-10-06 Thread Peter Marmet
Dear list members, Link for BRACHINITES: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id41.html Link for EUCRITES, DIOGENITES and HOWARDITES: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id54.html Link for CHONDRITES: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id1.html Link for a CK5/6:

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly found planet?

2010-10-06 Thread Steve Dunklee
Gee only 20 light years away. Since it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate a small mass to the speed of light. I guess the world may never know! __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Chris Peterson
Although an exploration mission certainly is not going to happen anytime in the next few decades or longer, it wouldn't require an unrealistic advance in propulsion technology to get a small spacecraft that distance in a fairly reasonable time- say a couple hundred years. You don't need to

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Thunder Stone
Why not send a probe - like a time bottle - would take many 1000's of years, but it would be really cool if we did.  Maybe a way to get a lot of countries to unite on a common venture - we could call the probe The Enterprise Greg S. From:

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Chris Peterson
It would be expensive. It's hard to imagine the political and economic models we live under supporting such a mission without clear and short-term benefits. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message

Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Close-up of Iron Martian Meteorite

2010-10-06 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Mark, but technically - and that's why we all shall let our fingers from them - some argue and believe that the object meteorite in itself is a cultural heritage. Even some curators! No matter whether it has been found yet, no matter if ever human hand had touched it. (Like the rock on

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:12:08 -0600, you wrote: Although an exploration mission certainly is not going to happen anytime in the next few decades or longer, it wouldn't require an unrealistic advance in propulsion technology to get a small spacecraft that distance in a fairly reasonable time- say

[meteorite-list] Opportunity's Close-up of a Meteorite on Mars: 'Oilean Ruaidh'

2010-10-06 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/missions/mer/images.cfm?id=2626 Opportunity's Close-up of a Meteorite: 'Oilean Ruaidh' Jet Propulsion Laboratory October 5, 2010 [Image] This is an image of the meteorite that NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity found and examined in September 2010. Opportunity's

[meteorite-list] The black stone in the wall of the Ka'ba (Part 1 of 3)

2010-10-06 Thread bernd . pauli
BURKE J.G. (1986) Cosmic Debris, Meteorites in History, pp. 221-223: The black stone in the wall of the Ka'ba is a holy relic. Muslim religious leaders know its origin and history through oral tradition and written records, and they have cooperated with inquisitive Westerners to the extent of

[meteorite-list] The black stone in the wall of the Ka'ba (Part 2 of 3)

2010-10-06 Thread bernd . pauli
BURKE J.G. (1986) Cosmic Debris, Meteorites in History, pp. 221-223: It is impossible to estimate the original size of the stone or even its present dimensions. One observer in the early tenth century wrote that it had a length of 1 cubit (slightly over 2 feet). Another, who saw it during the

[meteorite-list] The black stone in the wall of the Ka'ba (Part 3 of 3)

2010-10-06 Thread bernd . pauli
BURKE J.G. (1986) Cosmic Debris, Meteorites in History, pp. 221-223: Partsch evidently favored a meteoritic origin of the stone, both because of von Laurin's description of the black exterior of the fragment he viewed, its interior texture, and its purported heaviness, and because Muslims said

[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - October 6, 2010

2010-10-06 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES October 6, 2010 o New Impact Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_019195_2175 o Possible Cinder Cone on the Southern Flank of Pavonis Mons http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002671_1790 o Dunes in Herschel Crater

[meteorite-list] Mars Orbiters Observe New Impact Crater on Mars

2010-10-06 Thread Ron Baalke
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_019195_2175 New Impact Crater (ESP_019195_2175) [Image] The MRO Context camera team noticed a dark spot in an image taken in August 2010 that was not present in a Mars Odyssey THEMIS image taken in December 2007. The team therefore requested a

[meteorite-list] AD - Orgueil, Karoonda, Angrite, Diogenite and more

2010-10-06 Thread Greg Catterton
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing good. I am having a 10% off sale on ebay and also reduced prices on many of the buy it now items. I will take an additional 10% off for sales done off ebay. You can see whats available here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZwanderingstarmeteoritesQQhtZ-1 Greg

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Densities - Brother Guy

2010-10-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, I thought this thread had died out. However, while Wal-Mart playground sand would give good results, you could try this: go to a construction materials dealer or a hardware store and get White Flint Sand (the ultimate playbox sand). The last time I bought some, it was definitely in

[meteorite-list] a great IMB a real picasso enjoy,

2010-10-06 Thread habibi abdelaziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] Green Glowing Meteorites?

2010-10-06 Thread MEM
This is the bow wave which we see as a cross section of a cone. It is the front boundary of a zone of compression twixt the bow wave and the surface of the meteor. The green color is from atmospheric oxygen being heated to the point of emitting its spectra bands which when combined

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb
To The List Travel Club: A 0.008c probe could be built tomorrow (got cash?). It would take about 2600 years to reach the Gliese 581 system and maneuver through it and we could hope the instrument packages would have survived. Here's the real argument against primitive interstellar probes: the

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:37:43 -0500, you wrote: On the other hand, we might be able to make a 100-year probe by the end of the century. Just playing around with that time-frame. To get a probe there in 100-years (with a probe that accelerates to the mid-point, flips over, then decelerates to the

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Thunder Stone
Ok then - how about a Radio Transmission.  I would assume we are doing this.  What would we send? We gotta do something! Greg S. From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; stanleygr...@hotmail.com;

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread GeoZay
Ok then - how about a Radio Transmission. I would assume we are doing this. What would we send? How about all the re-runs of I Love Lucy? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newly foundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb
The message has already been sent! Social Networking has reached out to the stars. In October 2008, members of the networking website Bebo beamed A Message From Earth, a high-power transmission at Gliese 581, using the RT-70 radio telescope belonging to the National Space Agency of Ukraine. This

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newlyfoundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Sterling K. Webb
We have already sent them I Love Lucy, just by broadcasting it from October 15, 1951 to May 6, 1957. In the Fifties, the radio brightness of the Earth was about 700 times greater than our Sun's radio brightness. A bright radio source in orbit about a G-class star is like firing up a beacon for

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newlyfoundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 17:11:15 -0500, you wrote: Maybe we won't hear from them until they find out their favorite show was cancelled? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Aliens_Attack __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] The black stone in the wall of the Ka'ba (Part 3 of 3)

2010-10-06 Thread Martin Altmann
For the Wabar glass hypothesis - the Wabar craters are too young. http://www.agu.org/journals/ABS/2004/2003JE002136.shtml http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/2003M%26PSA..38..155B Best, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Green Glowing Meteorites?

2010-10-06 Thread ke...@lobstershack.com
There is probably a more accurate way of saying it but, I would venture to guess it's being emitted by the oxygen in the atmosphere as it is heated/excited by the bow shock wave in front of the meteor as it pushes through the atmosphere... Original Message: - From: David Gunning

Re: [meteorite-list] Green Glowing Meteorites?

2010-10-06 Thread David Gunning
Wish I could help you with a link, but I did not think to save. A quick google search of a meteorite video captured by high school football moms over a Texas, I believe, Friday night football might suffice. Not all the many offered football mom video shoots of this spectacular meteorite fall

Re: [meteorite-list] Green Glowing Meteorites?

2010-10-06 Thread Meteorites USA
There are 360 possible directions the camera could be facing horizontally. Determining and East/West trajectory from one video is impossible without knowing the direction the camera was facing. Eric On 10/6/2010 4:43 PM, David Gunning wrote: Wish I could help you with a link, but I did not

Re: [meteorite-list] '100 percent' chance for life on newlyfoundplanet?

2010-10-06 Thread Stuart McDaniel
Why is it illegal?? -- From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 5:43 PM To: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; steve.dunk...@yahoo.com Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Green Glowing Meteorites?

2010-10-06 Thread skyrockmeteorites
I think that video was the peekskil meteor(ite). There are literally dozens of videos of that green fireball on videos of H.S. Football. Best, Joe Kerchner Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net Sender:

Re: [meteorite-list] First attempt at photographing thin sections

2010-10-06 Thread Richard Kowalski
Thanks everyone who gave me such positive feedback on my thin section images. I've since spent a number of hours fixing some problems and refining my technique to the point where I am spending much more time looking at my specimens and exploring them to find interesting features than I am

[meteorite-list] trades and make reasonable offers

2010-10-06 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.I am willing to make trades or reasonable offers on all my ebay items.Please off list.  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! http://Chicagometeorites.com/ ebay:Illinoismeteorites __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] trades and make reasonable offers

2010-10-06 Thread MEM
Steve? What part of illegal do you not understand? Steve, it is a felony to interfere with an auction house's auction even if you are the owner of the item. Taking away the item you placed with them is defrauding them and deriving them of their commission. Again you show how you screw over

Re: [meteorite-list] trades and make reasonable offers

2010-10-06 Thread dave carothers
No thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] trades and make reasonable offers Hi list.I am willing to make trades or reasonable offers on all

Re: [meteorite-list] trades and make reasonable offers

2010-10-06 Thread MEM
Please disregard my last post. Steve's behavior is none of my business and I should have not said anything. I shouldn't care if no on else does. I got into Steve's personal business which I shouldn't have. Sorry Steve, Sorry List, Sorry Art. I'll try harder I have been good about not