Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question

2011-04-25 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Stuart, Barrett, List, Let's get our physics straight. The mechanisms being talked about here: burning from entry and inertia... travel[ing] into the earth are missing the point. These are not causes, but rather effects. All isolated, disconnected bodies have a certain amount of energy in

Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question

2011-04-25 Thread Barrett
Dear Mr. Sterling K. Webb, Simple questions usually dictate a simple answer, which is what I gave, and is essentially correct. Unlike you, I wasn't nit-picking. If you want to nit-pick, I can do that also. There is no such thing as a perfect conversion when it comes to energy/matter conversion,

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[meteorite-list] impact question--Barrett who?

2011-04-25 Thread jim_brady611
Well I for one have appreciated Sterlings humorous and thoughtful postings to the list for now on a decade and I have no idea who Barrett is but he seems to have quite a thin skin for starters.Is that the same person who gets in a wrinkle when the subject line doesn't change ;-) Try not to feel

Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question

2011-04-25 Thread actionshooting
Thanks guys for the answers but let's keep it peaceful here, I wasn't trying to start a pissing contest. Sterling, I appreciate the detailed answer and that certainly explains alot. I was only referring to Chixalub becasue it was on TV and it was big. We could be talking about ANY impact of

[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER

2011-04-25 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers   I hop :) hope everyone had a great Easter.. I had peeps and pop corn and gummy worms, great combo.   I would like to announce the win and answer for the POP QUIZ today.   Question   True or False   The current classification scheme for meteorites had its beginnings in

Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question

2011-04-25 Thread John Hendry
Sterling, On 24/04/2011 23:28, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: snip It takes a little over a joule to melt a gram of rock; that's the kinetic energy of that gram traveling at the sedate velocity of a mere 2100 m/s. A good-sized, high-speed impactor would turn to plasma

Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question

2011-04-25 Thread John Hendry
In fairness to Sterling I think he did give a simple answer, and I think you raise a few interesting notions. I wouldn't get too upset at the nitpicking, it is the mechanism by which we get closer to the truth, but I can understand how you feel aggrieved by being pounced on for your simple

[meteorite-list] Chicxulub was the small one

2011-04-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Stewart, Sterling - Chicxulub was the small impact. Another larger fragment of the comet hit at Shiva about 500,000 years later. That was the impact that finally killed off the dinosaurs. Sterling, could you do a rough estimate of the energy of the Shiva Impact? Megatons would be fine, or

Re: [meteorite-list] European Tektite Forum 2011 Photos

2011-04-25 Thread Meteorite Mania!
Aubrey, Thanks for sharing the pictures, I look forward to the updates with captions. What is the average number of hours searching before one will find any moldavite? Thanks Milan for showing your treasures, what a fantastic collection; I would be willing to bet that is the finest moldavite

Re: [meteorite-list] Chicxulub was the small one

2011-04-25 Thread Spaceguard
Chicxulub was the small impact. Another larger fragment of the comet hit at Shiva about 500,000 years later. That was the impact that finally killed off the dinosaurs. Theory, not fact. It's always useful to distinguish between the two, especially on a list with wide readership! Jay Tate

[meteorite-list] European Tektite Forum 2011 - Moldavite find rate

2011-04-25 Thread Aubrey Whymark
Hi Re: Find rate of Moldavites Well we were taken to the best spot! Milan has GPS coordinates of probably thousands of finds all plotted on Google Earth. An amazing database. Searching on the field I personally found 2 smallish specimens in maybe a couple of hours. Others found more. I guess

Re: [meteorite-list] European Tektite Forum 2011 - Moldavite find rate

2011-04-25 Thread Matthias Bärmann
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[meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)

2011-04-25 Thread Michael Gilmer
It's official - http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=52752 Congrats all around! :) -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook -

Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)

2011-04-25 Thread Larry Atkins
I'm confused, how did this get a different classification? I thought that was Sonnys strewn field... Sincerely, Larry Atkins   IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm   -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Apr 25,

Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)

2011-04-25 Thread Stuart McDaniel
That is awesome, CONGRATS Count!!! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:48 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list]

Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)

2011-04-25 Thread John Lutzon
Good get, Count! John IMCA#1896 - Original Message - From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump

Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question

2011-04-25 Thread Sterling K. Webb
John, List, Well, I was calculating for rock, not iron. Rock melts more easily, of course. My source (John S. Lewis, Physics and Chemistry of the Solar System) says it takes about 1.2 x 10^10 ergs to melt one gram of average rock. Since a joule is 10^7 ergs, it would take 1200 joules to melt a

Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)

2011-04-25 Thread Larry Atkins
I've been set straight, should've looked into it before hitting the 'send' button! Nice find Count! Sincerely, Larry Atkins   IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm   -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Apr 25,

[meteorite-list] stump springs 083

2011-04-25 Thread steve arnold
Hi all and count.Having held his new classified LL6 in my hands,and let me say what a beauty,I want to congradulate you count on a job well done.It's just to bad that the other half is not in your hands like it should be.Again way to go on getting your find classified.  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago!

[meteorite-list] Thank you List and MetSocCom

2011-04-25 Thread Count Deiro
If this is a repost..I'n sorry. I want to thank everyone on and off List for the many congratulations. A correction to the Bulletin. The Stump Springs main mass is held by myself and the Smithsonian. Sonny Clary donated the half that he acquired from me to the Institution last year. The

Re: [meteorite-list] Congrats to the Count on Stump Springs 083. :)

2011-04-25 Thread Dave Gheesling
Top stuff, Count...congrats! Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Larry Atkins Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:36 PM To: meteoritem...@gmail.com;

[meteorite-list] Stump Spring or Stump Springs

2011-04-25 Thread Thomas Webb
List, Everyone, including Count Deiro is calling it Stump Springs. The bulletin lists it as Stump Spring. Which is correct? I'm curious. Did it get reported as Stump Springs and they dropped the s that made it plural by mistake, or is Stump Spring the correct name? Thanks, Thomas

[meteorite-list] Seriously?

2011-04-25 Thread Eric Wichman
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stump Spring or Stump Springs

2011-04-25 Thread Count Deiro
Hi Thomas and List, I called it Stump Springs originally before I knew Sonny had reserved the name Stump Spring and the first 82 numbers. Then I tried to get it named Old Spanish Trail when I found out it was apparently a different meteorite classification from those he had found. But, too

Re: [meteorite-list] Stump Spring dense collection area (was Thank you List and MetSocCom)

2011-04-25 Thread wahlperry
Hi All, Maybe I can help clear up a few of your questions. I originally discovered the Stump Springs dense collection area back in 2002. After confirmation from two different Institutes that indeed I had found a dense collection area, I reserved numbers and the name Stump Springs. Somehow

Re: [meteorite-list] Seriously?

2011-04-25 Thread Rob Holcomb
How about a Hollow Earth society? -- From: Eric Wichman e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:20 PM To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Seriously? http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/

Re: [meteorite-list] Thank you List and MetSocCom

2011-04-25 Thread Greg Hupe
Hi Count and List, Congrats again to the Count and All involved for the discovery, classification and acceptance of Stump Spring 083. Congrats to All who have found meteorites at Stump Spring, Sonny has the numbers there! The Count mentioned one of my finds in that area, here are the