Congrats Scott, Terry and Larry,
Those are some nice meteorites. Much better looking than the average Nevada
chondrite. Thank you for the posts and pics. I'll bet you were thrilled by your
first finds.
Guido
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enjoy photos, a great new unpaired beauty,
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Hi all,
I've added a new addition to my historical site with details of the
circumstances of the find of the Hoba mass. As you know, Hoba is the largest
known meteorite specimen in the world.
http://historicfalls.com/20th-century/hoba/
One passage intrigued me:
For the purpose of determining
hello
hee is photo of a nice 320 gr meteorite
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi
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Hi Gary, Greg H., Chris and all,
Two names have come up recently as scammers. Joel Samson and Todd Parker. We
also know of another guy from the Chicago area that is a fraud. What I would
like to see is a list of people and companies that are known to be selling
fakes, mis-representing material
Hello List,
Thank you for calling my attention to potential dubieties about a lunar
meteorite offered by Joel Samson.
The depicted meteorite Joel Samson posted on Facebook which is held between two
fingers on the photo is definitely an authentic piece of the lunar meteorite Dho
908. It is
Hi Al and all:
I like the idea of a list of possible scammers and their suspect meteorites.
I
would err on the side of caution though, and hope the list be extremely careful
about name calling in the event someone would be inclined to sue for
defamation. I wouldn't use words like scammer or
Hi Al,
You made a mistake listing Todd Parker as a scammer. He was mentioned as
selling Whetstone Mountains that were definitely real.
Frank
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Hi Gang,
Ken Newton's website is a good start. There is a long list of
scammers, suspect eBay sellers, and known meteorwrongs. In my mind,
it's the quasi-official Hall of Shame.
http://meteorite-identification.com/
If we all chip in and do what we can, the meteorite market can
self-police
Hello All,
Dave Gheesling can't post to the list at the moment, but given the seriousness
of the accusation made against Todd Parker, he asked that I post this on his
behalf:
His message follows:
Hello List,
While I haven't seen where Todd Parker's name was mentioned as a possible
scammer
Hello All,
I wholeheartedly agree with Frank and Dave. There has to be a huge
misunderstanding/mistake made somewhere along the way in listing Todd Parker as
a scammer. From the all-too-little time that I have had the pleasure of being
in Todd's company, I can most definitely say that he is
I was made aware after my initial posting that Eric Twelker also has a genuine
piece of NWA 5K on his website which was obtained through legitimate channels.
My intent was not to exclude dealers or collectors who have legitimate pieces
of
this meteorite for sale, only make prospective
I guess this also highlights one of the obvious problems with a blacklist.
The internet has a long memory :/
On 12 May 2011, at 16:23, Robert Woolard wrote:
Hello All,
I wholeheartedly agree with Frank and Dave. There has to be a huge
misunderstanding/mistake made somewhere along the
List,
So the very first post speaking to putting together a black list
incorrectly accuses someone of being a fraud? Seems to me like trying
to compile such a list would end up causing way more grief than it
would solve.
Regards,
Michael in so. Cal.
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert
Here is an awesome 1 inch long by 1 cm thick CAI... It is the most massive one
I have ever seen.
Hope you all enjoy the pics.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5295.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5293.jpg
The rock that Joel Samson mentions in his e-mail
to me of 2+ years ago (below) is depicted here:
http://meteorites.wustl.edu/meteorwrongs/stone.jpg
It looks like a weathered volcaniclastic rock to
me. And, OK, it does also resemble a lunar breccia.
Randy Korotev
Good day Folks,
I would echo Michael in SO-CAL's thoughts. To establish such a list could
result in a rather expensive Defamation suit for the publisher(s) of such
a list.
Best Regards,
Paul Martyn,
Savannah GA
In a message dated 5/12/2011 1:06:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
I would advise that the other risk associated with compiling and
publishing a blacklist is the potential for libeling someone. Libel
has a serious legal risk and cost associated with it. One needs to be
very careful as illustrated by this thread and the potential for
wrongly implicating innocent
Hello List,
I've seen these black ball lists backfire with the cost of just answering the
accused's Civil Complaint ruining the accusing association financially. Also,
there are real elements of civil liability that might attach themselves to
individual members. RUN...DON'T WALK...AWAY FROM
hi folks,
I thought I'd post this story about a Canadian woman who was recently found
by hunters on their snow mobiles who were themselves lost in the rough and
treacherous mountains of Northern Nevada and her husband hasn't been found
yet. They asked for the shortest route to Las Vegas from
Hi,
juts introducing here my ureilite NWA 5921, with a very nice crust, and
impressive olivine crystal structure visible at the edge of the specimens. TKW
is only 98g, type specimens 21.6g, I have only 4 specimens (exept few crumbs)
for sale, listed here :
www.wwmeteorites.com/NWA5921.html
Hi Al and the rest of the List. I agree totally with you Al. One thing as
you mentioned that I have noticed over the years is that there is that
chance someone can get hurt by accusations of fraud ect. Yet how can this be
done so as to avoid this? I have an idea that might work but may need
Hi Larry,
Congratulations to you and Scott on the cool finds. The pictures of
your cat are great.
Sonny
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May 12, 2011
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Hello Don, Al, Chris and List,
We agree that something needs to be done to eliminate fraud and
misidentification. We also agree that investigating and outing a person
offering misidentified meteorites intentionally, or not, is fraught with the
danger of a lawsuit.
I put this to the you and
Thanks again, Frank, for forwarding my below note earlier today when I was
on a web interface and couldn't directly post to the list. Since the scam
and fraud notion is still being floated with Todd's name on it, I'm
posting again directly here so it's at least in the archives. Apologies for
the
Al,
I have purchased specimens from Todd over several years now.
I am looking at some of these as I write this, which he personally found
in the Whetstone Mountains, and in the Buck Mountains, of Arizona.
And which, are unquestionably authentic
SOMEONE HAS MADE A HUGE MISTAKE HERE,
and
I have a couple dozen meteorites now ending on ebay (Some already ended so
check quick) including completely crusted meteorites still bid at one cent and
ending in 35 minutes.
See my ebay user id AMUNRE
Or click here:
http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES?_rdc=1
Sincerely
DEAN
Personally I don't think a black-balled list is a good idea at all, it
puts the finger pointers at risk and makes the association look bad. What
it sounds like is the IMCA needs to get involved and promote members that
are dealers in good standing and if any member is caught selling
Hello All,
I'd like to know who, if anyone on this list, obtained the NWA number
4419 and had the R-chondrite analyzed. I purchased a number of pieces
of it, but, when looking it up in the bulletin, mine don't appear to
match the physical description of the meteorite.
I'd be fine with keeping the
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