[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

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[meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Folks, So last night I was going through the channel guide on cable TV and I saw that a show called Auction Kings was going to have a segment featuring a meteorite. I had never watched this show before, but I was very curious to see what type of meteorite would be shown. Apparently, the show

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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Adam Hupe
A lot of buyers judge the price of collectable items from eBay.  EBay is not known for fetching top dollar, especially on collectables.  A solid auction house will almost always fetch more than what would be realized on eBay.  The problem with many auction houses is that their commissions are

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Adam and List, Some good points there. About COA's - even if a COA comes from a trusted grading or certification firm, the value in the COA is not the COA itself, it is the name of the grading or certification service on it that is known to collectors of that particular type of collectible.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Thunder Stone
Michael: I watch this show as I'm fascinated will all kinds of collectables, and this is an old episode which first aired about a year ago. The auction house is based in Atlanta GA. I agree that it was very high, but the is the nature of autions. Perhaps try one near and see what happens. Greg

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's )

2012-03-23 Thread John higgins
Hi Mike, Adam, and List, Interesting opinions. You guys touched on a major issue in the Meteorite Community, and there are parts of your statements I don't agree with. I would really like to share how I feel about the subject. First of all Mike you said, I thought this was laughable for

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's )

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi John and List, I was not knocking any dealer's reputation, just expressing an opinion about COA's in general. I think we are blurring the line here between a specimen card and a COA. I like specimen cards. I am indifferent towards COA's. For example, you say that a meteorite from a

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread MexicoDoug
Mike G wrote: He opens it and brings out a Sikhote Alin shrapnel about the size of a grapefruit. I'd guess the piece would sell on the meteorite market or eBay for about $250-$300. The owner's desired price of $1000 seemed unrealistic to me. Mike, very entertaining! I think I will start

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Doug, Ok, perhaps a cueball or baseball would be a better analogy. The specimen was about fist-sized and easily fit in the palm of the hand. I've seen similar-sized Sikhote shrapnels regularly sell for far less than $1000, less yet $2000. I can't state whether or not any meteorite, even my

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread MexicoDoug
The Sikhote on the TV show was similar in size, shape, and quality to this one - http://www.ebay...; Something like this? http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/auction-kings-meteorite-man.html that is up to the buyer to decide Yes - so true! Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message-

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Yup, that's it. :) My main point in posting that originally was to say that dealers might consider looking into their local auction houses as an alternate venue for sales. With eBay fees continually climbing, there might come a day when the local auction house's fees are not that much higher

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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's )

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi John, Some specimen cards or COA's would be easier to counterfeit than others. The best one I have seen, in regards to difficulty to duplicate, would be the cards issued by Martin Altmann and Stefan Ralew. Their specimen card is very glossy and professional, but it also has an embedded

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[meteorite-list] Provenance

2012-03-23 Thread Stephan Kambach
An example: If I would make a trade with a museum to obtain a piece from the former Chladni collection, then the value for the meteorite gain by its added historic meaning. If I ' m buying a meteorite from Haag, Hupe, Farmer etc. then last et least I pay the price I would agree with myself. Is

[meteorite-list] Provenance

2012-03-23 Thread Stephan Kambach
An example: If I would make a trade with a museum to obtain a piece from the former Chladni collection, then the value for the meteorite gain by its added historic meaning. If I ' m buying a meteorite from Haag, Hupe, Farmer etc. then last et least I pay the price I would agree with myself. Is

Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance and the fickle mistress

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Stephan, The whole issue of COA's and provenance was accidental. This all started out with a post about a meteorite on a TV show. Discussions tend to wander into places not originally intended. I understand what you are saying and I agree in principle. But scientists and collectors have

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's )

2012-03-23 Thread John higgins
Hi Mike, I consider that little piece of paper you put inside the micros a valid provenance and COA. It's your design and has your name on it. Regardless of how small or cheap others perceive it to be, it's unique and it's the only provenance that comes from you. That in and of itself makes

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Count Deiro
Hi List, Most auctioneers and auction bidders wouldn't be able to tell a meteorite from a charcoal briquet. I think the rock in question sold cheap. The seller could have put $2,000 as the reserve and those bidders would have slugged it out to an even higher figure. Why do I say that? Because

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings ( PROVENANCE COA's )

2012-03-23 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi John, Thanks for the kind words. You must be one of the half-dozen people on this List that I have not alienated over the years with my big mouth. I like to think that I make positive contributions to the meteorite world, in my own small way. Now if I can just learn to keep my foot out of

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Thunder Stone
I've seen this show a number of times and there was no reserve, for some reason there just was a lot of bidding. Greg S -Original Message- From: Count Deiro Sent: 23 Mar 2012 21:54:25 GMT To:

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Re: [meteorite-list] Speaking of Auctions - Tissint

2012-03-23 Thread Pete Pete
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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Bob Falls
Hi Adam, I was watching this show the other night (different episode) and did catch them say at the beginning that the auction house takes a 20% sellers premium. I have never worked with an auction house however this does not seem too bad based on the draw this auction seems to have. Best

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Richard Montgomery
Yeah, I initially had the same reaction as Count...maybe not a good idea to switch the paradigm from in-the-know-competitive-market-driven-values to a free-for-all-mystique-value which eventually would upset at least some of the participants when the competitive-market-driven-values are

Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

2012-03-23 Thread Yinan Wang
Speaking from experience with many auction houses: most houses stay around the 20% range but the bigger ones charge photo fees of $100-$400 and a buy back fee. So are they a better value than eBay? With the major auction houses, I find that about 40-60% of items I consign will sell. Most will