Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread James Baxter
I think Rob's embargo period, which would address Doug Ross's and Mike Miller's concerns, is a great solution to this issue. >From my very limited (n of 3) experience there are significant psychological >issues involved in addition to scientific ones in the field. Sadly meteorite >folk like e

[meteorite-list] that is actually the 17th of September !

2012-09-07 Thread michael cottingham
Previous post stated wrong date of next shipping ...it is September 17th ! Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.

[meteorite-list] signing off ... Battle Mountain Bound - Customers Please Read ...

2012-09-07 Thread michael cottingham
Hello, Getting ready to head to the field tomorrow ... I will be running a huge sale for a lot of the days I will be gone. However, I will not be able to ship anything till the at least the 17th of October. Just depends how it goes in the field. Tomorrow is my last mailing day, so if you purch

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Pat Brown
Hi Rob,  Thank you for a wise, logical and well balanced response.  We do need to maximize the accuracy and volume of the data for science and at the same time allow  the hunters in the field some level of confidentiality of the find coordinate data.  This said, it is commendable when individ

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Richard Montgomery
Considering my neophyte hunting experience, I believe the less published info after initial fall coordinates are validated elevates the challenge I hope to learn. Mike Miller mentions individual approaches...critical to what I hope to learn on my own. -Richard Montgomery - Original Mes

Re: [meteorite-list] Battle Mountain Field report / strewn field conditions / etc.

2012-09-07 Thread Robert Verish
Hello All, I've returned from Battle Mountain to bring Moni back home (she had to go back to work today) and to resupply for a return trip to Antler Peak and Trout Canyon.  I want to take this time to thank all of the people that sent Moni and me "congratulatory" messages for finding BaM01 and

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2012-09-07 Thread Michael Blood
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Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi All, I would concur with Doug Ross's and Mike Miller's take on the meteorite coordinate publication problem, and would opine that the least-offending solution is to embargo coordinates for some period of time to respect the efforts of hard-working meteorite hunters while still satisfying the sc

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Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Sanscelerien Toutgrandeau
No matter how rational Dr. Marc Fries tries to put forward the advantages of cooperation, there are basic instincts and behaviours that we share with our "cousins in the nth degree", the other primates. Have a look at these two videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aGj-Y0shIs http://www.youtub

[meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Doug Ross
Hi Marc, That is a really tough question you have brought up, and I can see both sides. Even with the extremely helpful aid of radar analysis, it can still take a tremendous amount of search time and effort to make the first recoveries from a new fall, so I don't blame finders for feeling prot

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Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Count Deiro
Hi All, Marc Fries has asked, "...is it really necessary to hide the find locations?" The answer should be obvious when one consider's the following; in many foreign countries, it is illegal to take a find out of the jurisdiction, let alone sell it, even if it was found on private property. In

Re: [meteorite-list] Psuedocraters never die

2012-09-07 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Paul - No question Laura Knight is more than a little nuts. When you work in impact, you end up with nuts of various stripes going after you/ latching onto your work, often coming in from entirely different directions. I read a piece the other day where David Morrison spends a half an hour

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Mike Miller
Hello all first of all old habits die hard, so even if there is less reason to be secretive we will tend to lag behind in making the change. Now yes the radar is awesome and puts us close enough to find the strewn field. It even gives us a very good idea where to look for more pieces. There are sti

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread contact
Hi Marc, List, First off, THANKS for all your efforts Marc. Publishing this data is a valuable resource to the meteorite community and the scientific meteoritics world at large. "...is it really important to hide the find locations?..." Only if there is a monetary or legal reason to do so.

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Bryan Couch
Well said Michael Bryan Couch Wildomar Ca Dare to fail On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:35 AM, michael cottingham wrote: > You already have professional riff raffs that cause trouble ... does not > s

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread michael cottingham
You already have professional riff raffs that cause trouble ... does not seem to matter. The goal is to get the meteorites out of the field as soon as possible, get them to science, get them to collectors, get them preserved. I say publish all available information as soon as possible ... anyth

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread dorifry
Keeping it secret would weed out the unprofessional riff raffs that could potentially cause problems for everybody. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Musuem - Original Message - From: "Marc Fries" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:12 AM Subject: [meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Bryan Couch
Hi Marc and list, I think your right with the Radar pin pointing the field of fall I think there is no need to hold back cords of finds. We all know that they are there and for the most part we all know that if you find one the finder will search the whole surrounding area so what's the point.

Re: [meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
Seems like having the find coordinates did not help to find any more of Sutter's Mill than would have been found once the location of the first find was made based on your radar data. The most important benefit is in mapping out a strewn field which will help but only if enough pieces are found an

[meteorite-list] Some thoughts on find coords

2012-09-07 Thread Marc Fries
Greetings all I've been talking with a few people about logging the Battle Mountain meteorites, and I'd like to start some discussion on the topic of find coordinates. This is NOT directed at any one person, but I would like to editorialize a bit. I'm getting a lot of push-back about pr

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