[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - channel 4 (UK) documentary

2013-03-04 Thread karmaka
Dear list members, the Channel 4 (UK) documentary about the Chelyabinsk fall, aired yesterday evening in the UK, can be watched online now for another 29 days 'Meteor Strike: Fireball from Space' http://www.channel4.com/programmes/meteor-strike-fireball-from-space Martin

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - channel 4 (UK) documentary

2013-03-04 Thread Spaceguard
Watch and cringe! Jay Tate The Spaceguard Centre On 04/03/2013 08:20, karmaka wrote: Dear list members, the Channel 4 (UK) documentary about the Chelyabinsk fall, aired yesterday evening in the UK, can be watched online now for another 29 days 'Meteor Strike: Fireball from Space'

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - channel 4 (UK) documentary

2013-03-04 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Unfortunately can't watch it in Czech Republic :-( Error: The service is not currently available in your area Sergey On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Spaceguard m...@spaceguarduk.com wrote: Watch and cringe! Jay Tate The Spaceguard Centre On 04/03/2013 08:20, karmaka wrote: Dear list

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-04 Thread Martin Altmann
Yes, Yep, Yeah Jason! You forget always, how old I am.. A more proper answer would have been: Thank you for bringing it to my attention, I'll correct it. I remember that in my active time in the IMCA-board such cases like yours were the most common complaints filed against members. The solution

Re: [meteorite-list] Possible that comet will hit mars next year!!!

2013-03-04 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Just out of curiosity, what could this mean for the space-craft currently orbiting Mars? I mean even if this misses (which it probably will) a comet tail is pretty big and I'm sure there would be a lot of debris reaching Mars. If orbiters go down then I'm assuming the rovers do too. This could

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-04 Thread Jason Utas
Ahhh, now I get it. Before I could have seen it as simple concern. Now I'm guessing you purchased some more material paired with NWA 7034, hope to sell it in the future, and are attacking my material accordingly. So now I'm not allowed to have my own opinion? Wow, Martin. I heard from some

[meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.

2013-03-04 Thread Adam Hupe
I cannot believe in this day and age there are dealers self-proclaiming pairings on planetary material?  I found that most collectors expect dealers to have each and every planetary stone in a pairing series examined by a competent scientist at the bare minimum.    My brother and I go as far

[meteorite-list] Comet C/2011 L4 (PANSTARRS) Approaches The Sun

2013-03-04 Thread Ron Baalke
Space Weather News for March 3, 2013 http://spaceweather.com NAKED-EYE COMET: Comet Pan-STARRS (C/2011 L4) is now inside the orbit of Mercury and it is brightening as it approaches the sun. Observers in the southern hemisphere say the comet can be seen with the naked eye even through city

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-04 Thread Martin Altmann
Hiho Jason, not at all, I haven't any likely NWA 7034 at hand (nor would I have original NWA 7034 at hand, to compare), neither any leftover of NWA 4766 an official NWA 2975 pairing, whereof all stones were looked through by a meteorite scientist. (and anyway, how could you think that about me,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - channel 4 (UK) documentary

2013-03-04 Thread Graham Ensor
Well worth a watch although it takes the usual apocalyptic routebut not surprising after the Russian event I suppose...time to spot Dima again ;-) Graham On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Sergey Vasiliev vs.petrov...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately can't watch it in Czech Republic :-( Error:

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-04 Thread Michael Bross
Dear Martin, Jason and List First, Martin, I love your highly spirited answer to Jason. Jason, as Martin says (and respects you)... you both should smoke the peace pipe... I am following this list because I love meteorites, although I am barely buying any... maybe I will in the future. (I love

Re: [meteorite-list] Possible that comet will hit mars next year!!!

2013-03-04 Thread Graham Ensor
Hi Jeff, New data puts it so strike likelihood increasing. http://spaceobs.org/en/2013/02/27/new-data-concerning-the-close-approach-of-comet-c2013-a1-to-mars/ If not an impact this means the planet will pass through the comet's coma. Lots of dust and gas. Meteor showers at the surface

[meteorite-list] C/2013 A1, Mars and spacecraft/rover operation

2013-03-04 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Graham/Jeff/All, New data puts it so strike likelihood increasing. http://spaceobs.org/en/2013/02/27/new-data-concerning-the-close-approach -of-comet-c2013-a1-to-mars/ This is a rapidly evolving situation. Pre-recovery observations of C/2013 A1 were reported late last week that were made

[meteorite-list] AD: Pasamonte, Valera, Seres, Nakhla, Ensisheim, Leighlinbridge many more meteorites ending soon on ebay!

2013-03-04 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS /or TRADES, please email me and I'll get back with you. Lastly, if you are

[meteorite-list] Could a Comet Hit Mars in 2014? (Comet C/2013 A1)

2013-03-04 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.space.com/20045-comet-hit-mars-2014.html Could a Comet Hit Mars in 2014? Ian O'Neill Discovery News March 4, 2013 A recently discovered comet will make an uncomfortably-close planetary flyby next year - but this time it's not Earth that's in the cosmic crosshairs. According to

Re: [meteorite-list] C/2013 A1, Mars and spacecraft/rover operation

2013-03-04 Thread Graham Ensor
Thanks for the update Robinteresting times ahead. Graham On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Hi Graham/Jeff/All, New data puts it so strike likelihood increasing. http://spaceobs.org/en/2013/02/27/new-data-concerning-the-close-approach

[meteorite-list] AD- Monday Night Special Auction Ending!

2013-03-04 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, I have several Special Monday Night Auctions ending in a few hours and my normal auctions ending tomorrow evening. EBay is still the best place to get bargains so you may want to take a look if you do not want to pay anything near retail for some great specimens. Link to

[meteorite-list] The Bruderheim Meteorite - 1960 Fall

2013-03-04 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/technology/March+1960+Massive+meteorite+illuminates+northeast+Edmonton/8043398/story.html NOTE: this is an article about a meteorite fall in 1960. March 4, 1960: Massive meteorite illuminates the sky northeast of Edmonton Edmonton Journal March 4, 2013

Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.

2013-03-04 Thread Adam Hupe
It is amazing what some dealers try to get away with.  In the long run, words that may describe their legacy might be; They sure were cheap, They didn't care, They sure knew how to make a nickel scream or It was all about money for them! Any dealer who has been around the planetary market long

Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.

2013-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
What difference does a 20% type specimen make to someone who is a millionaire? If someone has enough money to purchase a substantial quantity of planetary meteorite, then they have enough money to pay for lab analysis and the 20% type sample. What a First World problem that is. Should I have my

Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.

2013-03-04 Thread Ed Deckert
Mike, Adam is running his business in a most ethical and desirable way. His efforts add even more value and importance to the provenance trail. Why be critical of someone who is making our hobby a better place for collectors? I have dealt with Adam on many occasions and am 200% comfortable

Re: [meteorite-list] Self-Proclaimed Planetary Pairings.

2013-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I was not referring to Adam. On 3/3/13, Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com wrote: Mike, Adam is running his business in a most ethical and desirable way. His efforts add even more value and importance to the provenance trail. Why be critical of someone who is making our hobby a better

[meteorite-list] Type 7 chondrites

2013-03-04 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi, Is there any consensus about petrologic type 7 chondrites? Are they better classified as Primitive Achondrites? If type 7 is different from primitive achondtites what is the line between them? Thanks, Peter Scherff __ Visit the Archives at

[meteorite-list] Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. Can someone look at this picture and tell me if it is oriented? It is a 6.58 gm. whole stone of Millbillillie with 100% crust with flow lines. Top of meteorite is up, and conical tapering to a wide bottom. I bought this years ago and believe the Dealer said it was oriented but have had

Re: [meteorite-list] Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Mike Tettenborn
Will need more pics from various angles to tell. From this one top view one cannot say if it is or isn't. Guess you need to stop being lazy and snap some more pics. Looks like a very nice stone. Cheers, tett Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario, Canada t...@rogers.com On 2013-03-04, at

Re: [meteorite-list] Type 7 chondrites

2013-03-04 Thread Alan Rubin
Most classifiers don't use the type-7 designation because many of the chondrites that have been called type-7 seem to be impact-melt breccias. Most researchers believe that thermal metamorphism probably caused by asteroidal heating engendered by the decvay of short-lived radionuclides like

[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 7345, L4 with big Ca/Mg inclusions (3 slices and main mass)

2013-03-04 Thread Fabien Kuntz
Hello, I have sliced a recently classified (official) new L4 chondrite, because the possible inclusions that could contain. A lucky guess, because the centimetric Ca-Mg rich I found : http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/NWA%207345/NWA7345-32.12g-02.JPG No self claimed pairing of course, but I

Re: [meteorite-list] Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I wouldn't describe it as oriented, but that word is in the eye of the beholder I guess. To me, Lafayette is the poster child for orientation and flowlines. I guess you could say this - if you have to ask, it's not. ;) Best regards, MikeG PS - it's a very nice specimen, oriented or not. :)

Re: [meteorite-list] Type 7 chondrites

2013-03-04 Thread Richard Montgomery
What thoughts about Taffessasset in this regard? Anyone wish to chime in? Richard M - Original Message - From: Alan Rubin aeru...@ucla.edu To: Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com; 'Adam' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:41 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Type 7 chondrites

2013-03-04 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
Dr. Rubin, If I read your response carefully, I believe you are saying that the petrologic state should not depend on the type of metamorphic process which makes sense. Seems to me that the the isotopic analysis should be used to identify chondritic material from achondritic material.  

Re: [meteorite-list] Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Pete Pete
IMHO, if it's got flow lines, it's oriented! Pete Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:02:34 -0500 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: dmerc...@rochester.rr.com CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is this oriented? I wouldn't describe it as oriented, but that word

[meteorite-list] Getting mixed reviews! NEW PICTURS Re: Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Don Merchant
Okay List I am getting some for sure yes's and some no's to maybe to being oriented. Hmmm. Is this rocket science!Any one else with some deep deep expertise want to share their thoughts and why. Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Michael Farmer
no way, tons of meteorites have flow lines, it is natural for anything falling and melting to have a flow line. That does not denote stable flight. If you are trying to sell me something oriented, I need to see shape, lines, rollover lipping, etc. Combined, those things can make nice

Re: [meteorite-list] Getting mixed reviews! NEW PICTURS Re: Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Don and List, Somebody (can't recall who), recently spoke on this subject. Anything with rounded edges and certain organic shapes are often deemed oriented. It is well known that thousands of years of sandblasting will produce rounded shapes that may look aerodynamic in some way. The

Re: [meteorite-list] Type 7 chondrites

2013-03-04 Thread Anne Black
Here you are Richard: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_TAFASS.HTM and http://www.impactika.com/nwa5131-tafassasset.pdf It was last analyzed by Dr Irving and Bunch who explained it to me this way: It is a CR6 (Carbonaceous-Renazzo) that went thru a metamorphic event (re-heated,

Re: [meteorite-list] Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Don Merchant
Getting some excellent feedback on this and very well appreciated, while at the same time getting edumacated! Keep your thoughts coming! Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com Cc: meteoritem...@gmail.com;

[meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom?

2013-03-04 Thread tracy latimer
I am observing something weird with some of my older membrane boxes.  The membrane is starting to degrade and go cloudy, and in at least one specimen (Imilac, bought at Tucson, I forget the year) the membrane has ruptured and the slice is rattling around loose in the box.  Has anyone else had

Re: [meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom?

2013-03-04 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I have had membrane boxes go cloudy on me also. I'm not sure what causes it. It seems to be random in my experience. I only keep a few of them on hand, because I store most of my personal specimens in gemjars or riker boxes - those never get cloudy. Best regards, MikeG --

Re: [meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom?

2013-03-04 Thread Frank Cressy
Hi Tracy, I had the membrane in one small box degrade and get very cloudy over a eight year (or so) period.  I was storing small mineral crystals in it. I think it was a result of heat as it was kept in my office where the AC is turned off on the weekends and it gets a little toasty here in

Re: [meteorite-list] Is this oriented?

2013-03-04 Thread Don Merchant
Thank you List to all who expressed their opinions on this is it oriented or not visual examination topic. I did get a variety of yes and no's, and each answer had excellent reasons for or against. My personal opinion from the get go was that it was not oriented, but I still wanted to

Re: [meteorite-list] Type 7 chondrites

2013-03-04 Thread Alan Rubin
The designations of petrologic type is based on texture (pristine or recrystallized) and degree of mineralogical equilibration. Those that appear most recrystallized have rather uniform mineral compositions indicative of a high degree of annealing or thermal metamorphism. Although other

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-03-04 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Bassikounou Contributed by: Jean-Michel Masson http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] Sharing a Find (and What It Is That It Somewhat Resembles, In My Opinion)

2013-03-04 Thread Peter Richards
This links to a set of recently taken photos of a stone, which is in my possession: http://www.flickr.com/photos/67498324@N08/sets/72157632910750544/ ... Here is an image of a documented meteorite, which I find it resembles, relatively so, at least: the Wellman H4 as documented by The Tricotte