Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major MeteoriteCollectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Michael Farmer
it is a terrible deal, seems like a very serious crime regardless of the circumstances. UPS can get into serious trouble and be sued for releasing the crate to third party if they were not on the invoice as a shipper or consignee. One can not just go in and ask to get a crate out unless you are

[meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major MeteoriteCollectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Stephan Kambach
A) between Bruno, and only Bruno and UPS exist a contract that moment, as he had overhanded the crate for transport. From there on,there is no third party beside the custom and UPS , who do have the title for an access to the crate. B) If someone consider to be an honesty man and might think t

[meteorite-list] stolen meteorites

2013-03-12 Thread Stephan Kambach
A) between Bruno, and only Bruno and UPS exist a contract that moment, as he had overhanded the crate for transport. From there on,there is no third party beside the custom and UPS, who do have the title for an access to the crate. B) If someone consider to be an honesty man and might think the r

Re: [meteorite-list] Origin of chondrules

2013-03-12 Thread Alan Rubin
I'll be happy to give my opinion on the paper. I think it is completely wrong. Here is my reasoning: 1. Many chondrules are surrounded by secondary igneous shells, still others by igneous rims. These shells and rims indicate that the chondrules haev experienced more than one melting event. 2.

Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread cdtucson
Bruno and Carine, We have been friends for a long time and you two have always been a joy to visit with. I have nothing against you but, like Elton said. This is a civil (money) matter more than a criminal (jail) matter. A better word for you to use here is " leveraged" instead of "extortion".

Re: [meteorite-list] Origin of chondrules

2013-03-12 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
It has been kindly and privately pointed out that there is not a typo. As I get older I can't tell the difference between what younger and older. My apologies. Mendy Ouzillou > > From: Mendy Ouzillou >To: met-list >Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:06 PM >Subje

[meteorite-list] Origin of chondrules

2013-03-12 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
And now for something completely different ... Meteorite talk. I am in the process of reading through a fascinating article in latest issue of "Meteoritics and Planetary Science" called "The Origin of Chondrules and Chondrites: Debris from Low Velocity Impacts Between Molten Planetisimals." Th

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Jodie Reynolds
Hello Shawn, I'm not sure I see how it impacts religion all that greatly (in general) - and probably don't care much. Where I really differ is that "science is going to hush it up" - not on your life. The group who breaks _real_ related science is going to be rolling in more money than Capt. Kir

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Shawn Alan
I would say Mc kays theory is more plausible than Wickramasing. Mckay does make some good points, but in science, its about proof, and I think for the next 50 years or longer, science will keep it hush hush and on the lid if there is really life on Mars, because once that is out in the open, the

Re: [meteorite-list] Hurricanes and rockets

2013-03-12 Thread Richard Montgomery
Mike, NOTHING. Started as a sideways jab at our space-program, peppered with political crap. Good to see it end. Onward. - Original Message - From: "Mike Groetz" To: "Richard Montgomery" Cc: "Steve Dunklee" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]

Re: [meteorite-list] Hurricanes and rockets

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Groetz
Anybody care to tell me what this petty irrelevant ongoing crap has to do with meteorites? On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Richard Montgomery wrote: > Steve, (not List)...but I'll proceed anyway before taking it off-list, just > for fun: > > Regrets that I did not include the two Delta laun

Re: [meteorite-list] Hurricanes and rockets

2013-03-12 Thread Richard Montgomery
Steve, (not List)...but I'll proceed anyway before taking it off-list, just for fun: Regrets that I did not include the two Delta launches when citing certain death for all who have eaten carrots. Regards, Richard - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee To: spacero...@spaceballoon

[meteorite-list] KaBOOM: New way to hunt for meteorites?

2013-03-12 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - http://www.universetoday.com/100400/nasas-kaboom-experimental-asteroid-radar-aims-tothwart-earths-kaboom/ If this radar array works the way NASA claims it will (And who all here remembers NASA's Ares 1?), then it looks like you'll just be able to go to where the meteoroid is expected

[meteorite-list] Sorry for double post.

2013-03-12 Thread Adam Hupe
I apologize for the double ad post.  I didn't see the first post go through and for some reason my own email ended up in my spam box.  Go figure, apparently Yahoo's new filters are set a little tight.  I figured it would be best to point out my mistake before somebody else pounced upon it. Tak

[meteorite-list] AD- Auctions Ending In A Few Hours

2013-03-12 Thread Adam Hupe
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Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: MajorMeteoriteCollectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Michael Bross
List I have to add, because I am getting too many emails on the private side ! I was trying to help Bruno and Carine, but this is getting out of hand fro me ! I was ONLY trying to tell Bruno to get a better English translation for what he wanted to say/convey ! He doesn't contact me privately,

Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major MeteoriteCollectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Michael Bross
Do you realize Bruno, that you are difficult to understand ?! When I read that from a previous email from you: "the UPS guy gave it to him ! then the criminal brought it back the next day when we receive it, it was full of asphalte pieces with all our boxes empty... The french Police se

Re: [meteorite-list] Don't listen to Thieves stories !

2013-03-12 Thread John Lutzon
Mike, I know you mean well. But, what didn't you understand. I believe we all got it. It' horrible what happened to them and the LAST thing they need to consider, at this time, is learning english grammar. Bruno, Carine---good luck in this tradgedy. Your english is just fine!! John Lutzon -

Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major MeteoriteCollectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Don Merchant
Seems to me that UPS is responsible since they gave the crate to "him" I would contact a lawyer and make UPS pay for their mistake/error. I am sure you had insurance for the contents of the crate! Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: "The Earth's Memory" To: Cc: Sent: T

Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread The Earth's Memory
Carl, please send us the list of these people, witnesses are always welcome. Wow, he told you that he has half of our material ? thank you for your testimony. Anybody has pictures of that exposed collection ? If you had more than your house value as retainer you would be very cooperative be

Re: [meteorite-list] Don't listen to Thieves stories !

2013-03-12 Thread Michael Bross
List, Bruno and Carine I just sent an email to you and the list. There are too many points that are not understandable in plain English... even if we, I, feel your honesty ! (il y a trop de phrases en Anglais dans votre email qui ne sont pas comprehensibles en Anglais ... on s'y perd dans votre

Re: [meteorite-list] Don't listen to Thieves stories !

2013-03-12 Thread Michael Bross
List, Bruno and Carine... I am French myself... and would love to see a better English in your email... ! (I can help you if you wish !... just send me a private email) I know !... it is too much to ask from French individuals to speak a decent English.. unfortunately... My first "shock" was to

Re: [meteorite-list] No, Diatoms Have Not Been Found in a Meteorite...

2013-03-12 Thread Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
Pat, Yes it's troubling they were studying a meteorwrong. What's more troubling is they found the same species of freshwater diatoms living in the rice paddies as they found in their meteorwrong! This is how David McKay (RIP) et. al. were proven wrong about the Martian pseudo-fossils. Phil W

Re: [meteorite-list] No, Diatoms Have Not Been Found in a Meteorite...

2013-03-12 Thread Pat Brown
Hi All,  According to the Meteoritical Bulletin, there is no classified meteorite that aligns with the claims in the paper by Wickramasinghe et. al. My limited understanding (I am an engineer and only an amateur meteoriticist and member of the Meteoritical Society) is that the scientific world

Re: [meteorite-list] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collectionstollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread cdtucson
List, This is very confusing. The Tucson show ended nearly a month ago on Feb. 18th. Why the long wait to make claims Anyone at the show already saw much of this material being sold by Sean and he and Bruno were very friendly with each other at the time. I saw them meeting and discussing id

[meteorite-list] AD - Good Auctions Ending This Evening

2013-03-12 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, I have several good auctions ending this evening on eBay. Please take a look if you can spare a few moments. Link to all auctions: http://shop.ebay.com/raremeteorites!/m.html Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck, Adam _

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
Really!? I didn't think anybody believed McKay's thoroughly debunked theory any more. http://www.space.com/18414-mars-meteorite-life-arctic-rocks-qanda.html Phil Whitmer - Original Message - From: "Count Deiro" To: "Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum" ; "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" C

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Count Deiro
Well put Mike. Guido -Original Message- >From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >Sent: Mar 12, 2013 3:39 PM >To: Count Deiro >Cc: Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum , Mike Groetz >, Meteorite List >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils >inFireballFragments > >Hi

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Count Deiro
Your right. And that is the bar set for the validity of all science. Question it. Prove it. Best personal regards, Guido -Original Message- >From: h...@meteorhall.com >Sent: Mar 12, 2013 3:00 PM >To: Count Deiro >Cc: Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum , Galactic Stone >& Ironworks , Mi

Re: [meteorite-list] No, Diatoms Have Not Been Found in a Meteorite...

2013-03-12 Thread Ron Baalke
> > http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/01/15/life_in_a_meteorite_claims_by_n_c_wickramasinghe_of_diatoms_in_a_meteorite.html No, Diatoms Have Not Been Found in a Meteorite By Phil Plait Bad Astronomy [UPDATE (Mar. 12, 2013): The authors of this very shaky "life in a meteorite" paper

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Count, Phil, List, and Innocent Bystanders, I have to chime in a bit here on a more serious note. I think there is merit to the idea of panspermia. I am not convinced that panspermia explains any of the lifeforms or living processes here on Earth, but that does not mean the idea is baseless.

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread hall
Guido, you are correct in that one day humans will find life forms from outside of our planet. It is only this person's science and methodology that is in question. Fred H > Hi Phil, > > I haven't read Wickramasinge. I do hold stock in panspermic theory. In > particular, the findings of water, ami

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread hall
Yes! I was formed inside Kerala, my mom's nickname (just joking, Mom!). Martin, the RED RAIN tastes surprisingly like red beer. Try it. I'm quite certain that there are (to me) extraterrestrial life forms in my pet Scottish Terrier "Holbrook", who died and I buried over a year ago. So your cat and

[meteorite-list] Don't listen to Thieves stories !

2013-03-12 Thread The Earth's Memory
Dear Jason, Darryl and all Meteorites friends, to kill any rumors and bad mouths. We have been the very first to develop meteorite hunting in NWA fields in 1997. At that time we have setlle up a partnership agreement with a moroccan man, he has signed a contract with us. We would teach him m

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Count Deiro
Hi Phil, I haven't read Wickramasinge. I do hold stock in panspermic theory. In particular, the findings of water, amino acids, etc. in the meteorites I mentioned. The NASA/JPL paper "New Evidence of Life Forms in Martian Meteorites" descibing and illustrating what seven of their best have conc

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Were you in Kerala? Fred, NEVER drink from the Red Rain again! (huh it's so spooky, I think inside my extraterrestrial life form (aka "The Cat") are living terrestrial organisms...) Purple Rain, purple rain... Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritece

[meteorite-list] NASA Rover Finds Conditions Once Suited for Ancient Life on Mars

2013-03-12 Thread Ron Baalke
March 12, 2013 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov D.C. Agle Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-393-9011 a...@jpl.nasa.gov RELEASE: 13-073 NASA ROVER FINDS CONDITIONS ONCE SUITED FOR ANCIENT LIFE ON M

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread hall
I have a true blue "FOSSIL METEORITE WITH ANCIENT FOSSIL LIFE FORMS"! Quick, call the newspapers with this wonderful headline! The meteorite is 4,786 grams and the Niton XRF on a freshly ground surface shows 11.02% Ni, 85.87% Fe, 0.89% Mn and 0.68% Cr, so it is indeed a meteorite. The fossil life f

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [IMCA] Urgent Attention: Major MeteoriteCollection stollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Jan Woreczko - www.meteoritica.eu
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hurricanes and rockets

2013-03-12 Thread Richard Montgomery
As always, thorough investigation Jodie. (I might also add that everyone who has ever eaten carrots will die.) Richard M - Original Message - From: "Jodie Reynolds" To: "Steve Dunklee" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hurricanes and rockets

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: [IMCA] Urgent Attention: Major MeteoriteCollection stollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Richard Montgomery
Bruno and Carine, A real tragedy. The number and quality of all of them is stunning in every regard. I was shocked at the extense of the list (everyone needs to see the pictured inventory). Our eyes and insight will be looking. Sincerely, with regrets, AND HOPE, Richard Montgomery - O

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Graham Ensor
This guy has done this with several meteorites and always it has been disprovedsame old story again and again. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum wrote: > Hello Count, > > All that stuff has been debunked long ago, no need to beat dead horses. > That is unless

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
Hello Count, All that stuff has been debunked long ago, no need to beat dead horses. That is unless some new evidence has been discovered. If you have new evidence, I'd love to hear it. Seriously, you think the work of Chandra Wickramasinghe is worthy of discussion? Please proceed. Ph

[meteorite-list] Fw: [IMCA] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collection stollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread The Earth's Memory
It is here : http://www.meteorite.fr/en/stolen.htm any of thesespecimens are considered stolen by Police and having them in hands will link to serous crimes. we will email the story and the kind of evidences witch have been collected. The robbery is evident and definitly prouved. The extorti

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Count Deiro
Hi List, Meteorite Mike has said ".. are hereby suspended..." and Phil wrote "..too dumb to discuss.." Darn. I was hoping to sell my Nakhla, Murchison and Allende specimens, to mention just a few. Wait till all those guys and gals, with the three letters after their names, engaged in writing

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Urgent Attention: Major Meteorite Collection stollen !!!!

2013-03-12 Thread Graham Ensor
Looks like somebody stole the page toowhere will it all end ;-) On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM, rskun...@aol.com wrote: > I have had trouble opening your list;? the?message ?is that the page can not > be found. > Perhaps it would be good to check the link and resend it? > Thanks and best w

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Hupé
If they are still suspended, than I would go for 'meteoroid'... Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinteres

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Chris Peterson
It it's suspended before it strikes, is it a "meteorite" or a "meteoroid"? Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 3/12/2013 8:59 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: All ancient life-bearing meteorites, diatom-bearing meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
Does this mean you're still selling those Martian irons containing blood vessels and red corpuscles? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum - Original Message - From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" To: "Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum" Cc: "Mike Groetz" ; "Meteorite List" S

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
All ancient life-bearing meteorites, diatom-bearing meteorites, red-rain particles, and panspermia chondrites are hereby suspended until further notice -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/gala

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
Too dumb to even discuss! Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum - Original Message - From: "Mike Groetz" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments http://www.technologyr

[meteorite-list] south-africa-bolide 12mar2013 bright as sun

2013-03-12 Thread drtanuki
List, south-africa-bolide 12mar2013 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/03/mbiq-detects-south-africa-bolide.html Dirk Ross __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecent

[meteorite-list] Ontario MI OH IL IN Fireball Meteor 08MAR2013 update

2013-03-12 Thread drtanuki
List, Map and reports are now all posted. Sorry for the delay. It appears that meteorites fell over land and water. Ontario MI OH IL IN Fireball Meteor 08MAR2013 update http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/03/mi-oh-il-in-fireball-meteor-08mar2013.html Videos will be added as I have time

Re: [meteorite-list] Hurricanes and rockets

2013-03-12 Thread Jodie Reynolds
Here are the first 25 shuttle missions, and their nearest tropical storms, depressions, and hurricanes. Only 8% of the first 25 coincided to two weeks. Maybe every single flight afterwards resulted in a "Yes", but that's not work I'm interested in doing given the initial results. How about you c

Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-12 Thread Peter Davidson
Jason and Martin I agree with Art, please continue your argument off-list. Cheers Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA 00 44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteo

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-03-12 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Bassikounou Contributed by: Gourgues Denis http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ht