[meteorite-list] AD -chebarkul-meteorites-available

2013-03-25 Thread drtanuki
List, AD -chebarkul-meteorites-available http://finlandspectrolite.blogspot.jp/2013/03/chebarkul-meteorites-available.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] Two-Buck-Binsk

2013-03-25 Thread valparint
I have it on good authority that it's headed to two dollars a gram. Paul I finally got my 7 gram Chelyabinsk stone. I have never seen a more beautiful and black fusion crust. This is a fall where I do not see the prices going down anytime soon. __

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-03-25 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 7474 Contributed by: Dave Pensenstadler http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Witt
Mike Farmer just sort of agreed with Steve Anold. I fear the universe will now implode!! Regards, the other,other,other Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sun, 3/24/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Subject: Re:

[meteorite-list] AD: APT, Pasamonte, Almahata Sitta, Limerick, Ensisheim more ending soon on ebay!

2013-03-25 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers Thank you for taking a look at my post of meteorites I have for sale on eBay. Here is your chance to own some rare and historic meteorites. Please take a look and if you have any questions or OFFERS /or TRADES, please email me and I'll get back with you. Lastly, if you are

[meteorite-list] unusual crystalline structure found in NWA --your thoughts please

2013-03-25 Thread jim_brady611
Hi list Jason Borst (http://www.opalandjasper.com) who cuts my larger specimens has encountered an unusual crystal structure today in an otherwise ordinary looking NWA. Reminds me of a barred olivine chondrule except of course they aren't contained within a chondrule.And it's likely not

[meteorite-list] Unusual crystalline structure found in NWA --your thoughts please

2013-03-25 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello Jim and List, Looks very much like polysomatic BO chondrules* to me! Cheers, Bernd *See: Norton O.R. (2002) The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Meteorites (Cambridge University Press, pp. 113+114). Norton O.R. (2008) Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites (pp.110+111).

Re: [meteorite-list] unusual crystalline structure found in NWA --your thoughts please

2013-03-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Very odd. Looks like some kind of deformed chondrule. I've never seen anything exactly like it either. Jason does awesome work. His cabbing and polishing work is top-notch. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web -

Re: [meteorite-list] unusual crystalline structure found in NWA --your thoughts please

2013-03-25 Thread Graham Ensor
Hi Jim...this is similar...hoping to get it looked at at PSSSRI at some point soon http://s760.photobucket.com/user/Graham-Ensor/library/Unusual%20inclusion%20in%20NWAxxx Sorry about poor shots...just took them quickly to reply Graham On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:48 PM, jim_brady...@o2.co.uk

Re: [meteorite-list] unusual crystalline structure found in NWA --your thoughts please

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Spratt
Came across a similar one in an Allende Thin section (which I no longer have). See: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1992JRASC..861R Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing

[meteorite-list] Digging For Hidden Treasure on Mars (Mars Express)

2013-03-25 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Digging_for_hidden_treasure_on_Mars Digging for hidden treasure on Mars European Space Agency 25 March 2013 ESA's Mars Express has spent nearly ten years imaging the Red Planet, and there are plenty of hidden treasures buried in the mission's

[meteorite-list] nice photo of friday night's east coast fireball

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Hankey
here's a great photo of friday night's fireball http://amsmeteors.org/2013/03/spectacular-photos-of-march-22nd-2013-east-coast-fireball/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual crystalline structure found in NWA --your thoughts please

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Groetz
Someone should smell it- having a BO chondrule you would think the meteorite would have an odor to it... (Sorry...!) Mike On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Hello Jim and List, Looks very much like polysomatic BO chondrules* to me! Cheers, Bernd

[meteorite-list] AD - Monday Night Special Auction Ending!

2013-03-25 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, I have a Monday Night Special auction set ending in a few hours.  Lots of great material started at just 99 cents with no reserves.  I have a set of auctions ending tomorrow night as well.  I also added some items to my store and will continue to do so in the up-and-coming

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Congratulations to Dante Lauretta of UOfA Lunar and Planetary Laboratory and Osiris-Rex mission, who presented a piece of Chelyabinsk that I donated, to President Obama and Congress today while there to discuss the threat of asteroid impact. Chelyabinsk was almost a City Killer as Richard

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
It's unsettling that we have no system in place to detect objects of this size. It's time to stop wasting money on pointless pork and use that money to field a detection system for smaller objects like the Chelyabinsk meteoroid. We can detect most planet-killers, but these city-killers are all

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Randall
Well let's wait and see some prices before we get too nuts about this. I'm waiting to hear from some of the big dealers here on small specimen prices. I don't need big pieces to be happy. 5-10 grams is fine by me. I do agree that the longer they sit under the snow the worse they may

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Adam Hupe
Knowing our commander with some teeth it will be tossed in a drawer and forgotten about.  Didn't Michael Casper give Hillary or Bill Clinton a piece?  I haven't heard anything about that meteorite.  I remember Michael Casper mentioned this apparently unappreciated gift on his website. 

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2013-03-25 Thread Steve Witt
Tom, I believe, at this point, that we're all in for a rude awakening when prices are announced. I hope I'm wrong. Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Mon, 3/25/13, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Witt
The list should be buzzing with guesses or speculation, but it seems no one wants to talk about the elephant in the room. Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Mon, 3/25/13, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: From: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Randall
Well it won't kill me if I can't get a little piece. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. On 3/25/2013 6:13 PM, Steve Witt wrote: Tom, I believe, at this point, that we're all in for a rude awakening when prices are announced. I hope I'm wrong. Regards, Steve Steve Witt IMCA

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Randall
No one wants to get stepped on by the elephant! On 3/25/2013 6:16 PM, Steve Witt wrote: The list should be buzzing with guesses or speculation, but it seems no one wants to talk about the elephant in the room. Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Mon, 3/25/13, Tom

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

2013-03-25 Thread Adam Hupe
I am waiting for the Russian meteorite dealers to put a truckload on the market.  They always seem to price meteorites fairly and are not afraid to give steep discounts on larger pieces.  So like everybody else, I am waiting to add a piece to my personal collection.  I think LL's will hold up

Re: [meteorite-list] unusual crystalline structure found in NWA --your thoughts please

2013-03-25 Thread hall
In the world of earth rocks, if you were to slice clevelandite or barite, the structure would look much like your mystery crystals. Fred H Hi list Jason Borst (http://www.opalandjasper.com) who cuts my larger specimens has encountered an unusual crystal structure today in an otherwise

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Perhaps you contact us. Not Everything is public. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: Well let's wait and see some prices before we get too nuts about this. I'm waiting to hear from some of the big dealers here on small specimen prices.

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Casper gave Hillary a Sikhote-Alin when she was on his block. Not sure that she was supposed to hold a press conference... Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Knowing our commander with some teeth it will be tossed in a

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Yinan Wang
Most likely it'll be archived along with the tens of thousands of other gifts Presidents usually receive. http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/gifts.html -Yinan On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Knowing our commander with some teeth it will

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Dan Miller
It will get filed with all the other Presidential gifts during his term and later included in the Obama Presidential library someday. The library may then donate it to the Smithsonian museum. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Congratulations to Dante

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Randall
LOL! Don't even get me started on religion! ! Congress is totally useless IMHO. Politicians are pretty much useless 99% of the time. IMHO. Regards! Tom On 3/25/2013 7:59 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: Yeah, sort of like congress is not a fan of science and education. Half of them don't

[meteorite-list] Curiosity Resumes Science Investigations

2013-03-25 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-115 Curiosity Resumes Science Investigations Jet Propulsion Laboratory March 25, 2013 Mars Science Laboratory Mission Status Report PASADENA, Calif. - NASA's Mars rover Curiosity has resumed science investigations after recovery from a

[meteorite-list] NASA Scientists Find Moon, Asteroids Share History

2013-03-25 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-114 NASA Scientists Find Moon, Asteroids Share History Jet Propulsion Laboratory March 25, 2013 PASADENA, Calif. - NASA and international researchers have discovered that Earth's moon has more in common than previously thought with large

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Yeah, sort of like congress is not a fan of science and education. Half of them don't believe in meteorites because it doesn't mention them in the bible. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: Obama is not a space program fan,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Randall
Obama is not a space program fan, especially not a MANNED space program fan. He'll probably look at the piece a few times and forget about it unfortunately. I think it's cool though that Mike gave the specimen.Hopefully it'll go somewhere that people can see it and enjoy it. Regards! Tom

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Jim Strope
Yeah, and the earth is only 8000 years old. LOL! Jim Strope 421 4th Street Glen Dale, WV. 26038 Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Yeah, sort of like congress is not a fan of science and education. Half of them don't believe in

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
It's extremely doubtful that this body could have done all that much more damage. It simply wasn't big enough, or strong enough. A little steeper (or just as likely, as little shallower), a little earlier or later, probably wouldn't have made much difference. While I'd love to see a

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2013-03-25 Thread Don Merchant
Another thought was donating it to me. I would of taken a picture of it, added it to my collection, then posted the picture on my Website with your information on the specimen and your name as the donator. All this with in an hour of receiving the donation! I would of shown my gratitude

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
I was just in Chelyabinsk, a city under emergency for the last month, -20 and tens of thousands of windows blown out, not only glass, but entire walls of many buildings caved in, entire buildings collapsed, and more than 1500 wounded, some still in the hospital, and that was just a meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Has there been any update on the woman who suffered a broken back from the event? On 3/25/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I was just in Chelyabinsk, a city under emergency for the last month, -20 and tens of thousands of windows blown out, not only glass, but entire walls of

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Don Merchant
Another thought was donating it to me. I would of taken a picture of it, added it to my collection, then posted the picture on my Website with your information on the specimen and your name as the donator. All this with in an hour of receiving the donation! I would of shown my gratitude

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
There are still 4 people in critical condition in the hospital there. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Has there been any update on the woman who suffered a broken back from the event? On 3/25/13,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Mike, Do you know any details on their injuries? Was the broken back a result of falling debris? I imagine flying glass wasn't responsible for the spine injury, but I could be wrong. And what about the other injuries? I don't recall hearing much about it in the media reports. A shame that

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Mike, List, ...it doesn't mention them in the bible... Then they don't read their Bible (either): Joshua 10:11. And it came to pass, as they fled before Israel, and werer in the going down to Beth-Horon, that the Lord cast down into Azekah great stones from heaven upon them, and they died...

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Also, let's think about how much made it to the ground. If the numbers are correct, with ~500 kilotons of detonation, and 11,000 metric tons of mass, and lets say even if 99% vaporized in the explosion, that would leave 110 TONS of material on the ground! And I certainly do not believe that

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Sadly the current crop of imbeciles in office are more interested in proving how early man rode T-REX dinosaurs and other such nonsense. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Mike, List, ...it doesn't mention

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Kelly Beatty
Chris... It's extremely doubtful that this body could have done all that much more damage. It simply wasn't big enough, or strong enough. I spoke at some length about this with Mark Boslough, a Sandia Labs expect in airborne shock waves (read: bombs). he's the one who modeled Tunguska a few

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Didn't you see the videos of people being blown into walls by the shockwave? There are great surveillance videos showing people at the university being thrown against walls and blown down. If it can cave in building, it can sure hurt people. My hotel lost 25% of the windows and a maid was

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk alternate scenarios

2013-03-25 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Mike, I think what Chris is saying is that if you kept the composition, mass and velocity the same on that asteroid, but had it come in at a steeper angle, the odds of generating large meteorites on the ground would have been lower rather than higher. It would have broken up at a higher

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
I didn't see those videos. How the heck did I miss those? I did see alot of videos of the booms, broken glass, and the aftermath, but I didn't see any of people being blown around. Got a link to those? I wanna see those, even though I feel a little creepy wanting to watch that - the idea of

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Stuart McDaniel
I am sure he will appreciate it since he has gutted NASA. Doesn't care one thing about science! * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Sirius Meteorites Node35 - Sentinel All Sky http://spacerocks.weebly.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Yeah, the tea party sure is leaving lots of money laying around right? Stuart, you should re-attend school. The president executes laws. Congress and Senate write them. Any laws or taxes or budget cuts all originate in congress:) Perhaps to help NASA you could call your worthless congressmen

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Liveleak and YouTube. Google Chelyabinsk university and meteorite and you will see :) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see those videos. How the heck did I miss those? I did see alot of videos of the booms,

[meteorite-list] Terminal burst altitude vs. entry angle

2013-03-25 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Kelly, ... what Mike Farmer says agrees with Boslough's assessment: had the impactor come in more vertically, its terminal burst would have been lower ... Since the dynamic pressure on the bolide is a function of the square of its velocity and the atmospheric density, it seems to me that a

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Found this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RznHQKjWBSA Thanks for the heads-up on it Mike. I hadn't seen that one before. Too bad there was no sound, but the imagery is still scary. That one shot of people sitting on benches indoors near windows was indicative of lady luck. A couple of

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Don Merchant
Really interesting video. I did notice that when the major flashes/bursts/explosions of the meteorite ends, it takes aproxamentally 11 seconds for the shock wave to hit. Any geniuses out there able to get a rough idea how far or high in the sky the meteorite was when it exploded? Sincerely Don

Re: [meteorite-list] Terminal burst altitude vs. entry angle

2013-03-25 Thread Larry Atkins
Hi Rob, All, I've always been fascinated with the Carancas event. Wasn't that a rewrite the books, rule breaker? What might the results have been had the Russian meteor acted in the same manner and hit a large city dead center? I doubt the locals would be running around picking up

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Farmer
Actually is is almost 1.5 minute to two minutes on most Clocks. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Really interesting video. I did notice that when the major flashes/bursts/explosions of the meteorite ends, it takes aproxamentally

Re: [meteorite-list] Terminal burst altitude vs. entry angle

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Dunklee
the only way for a low detonation of a small meteorite would be if it fell at a low angle like less than6 degrees so it could survive to penetrate deeper. a larger piece it wouldnt make any difference. cheers Steve --- On Tue, 3/26/13, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com wrote: From: Larry

[meteorite-list] From Russia (with love) - a contest with prizes!

2013-03-25 Thread Kevin Kichinka
Team Meteorite: In the last hours many list contributors have opined on the 'worth/value' and predicted availability of this latest and greatest meteorite fall occurring in Russia. Like every collector, I wish to eventually own a piece of the Chelyabinsk meteorite, who's dramatic escapade was

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Pict
With the shot of the corridor 3 minutes in on the video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RznHQKjWBSA there is an interval of around 2 Min 24 sec according to the video time signature. Note there is footage edited out between the flash and the bang. Assuming an average speed of sound as around 320

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
It would be more accurate to say that around 100 people were injured more seriously than minor scrapes and cuts. What I'm saying is that I don't consider it likely that any different trajectory would have made this body significantly more dangerous; that a million dead is really, really

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
The time delay between the airburst and the shock arriving at the ground, directly beneath the burst, was about 90 seconds (not 11), making the height about 28 km. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 3/25/2013 10:31 PM, Don

Re: [meteorite-list] From Russia (with love) - a contest with prizes!

2013-03-25 Thread Larry Atkins
Great idea Kevin! I'll go first and guess $30.00 a gram / 12 dealers. Sincerely, Larry Atkins   IMCA # 1941 Ebay alienrockfarm   -Original Message- From: Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Mar 25, 2013 9:17 pm Subject:

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
While I have great respect for Boslough's modeling of large impactors, I'm not convinced his models are really optimized for such small bodies as this one. More to the point, his models typically start with hypothetical values for the material properties of the bodies, and then calculate their

[meteorite-list] Fw: From Russia (with love) - a contest withprizes!

2013-03-25 Thread Paul Gessler
I predict US$ 7.00 / gram 12 dealers Paul Gessler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] In Tucson April 4 through April 7

2013-03-25 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
Well another business trip is coming up but this one is much closer to home and my meteoritic interests. I have had such amazing response in my travels, why not continue the hot streak. I will be in Tucson on April 4 to visit Freescale in Tempe. My meetings will be done by 5pm or 6pm max.

Re: [meteorite-list] From Russia (with love) - a contest with prizes!

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Brooks
US $50 gram. 50 dealers. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Kevin Kichinka mars...@gmail.com wrote: Team Meteorite: In the last hours many list contributors have opined on the 'worth/value' and predicted availability of this latest and greatest meteorite fall occurring in

[meteorite-list] eBay listing with 3 different weights

2013-03-25 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. Am I seeing things or does this Seller have 3 different weight sizes listed for this specimen of Norton County. Check the Card out in the pics for the weight as well. Hmmm what are you getting!