Re: [meteorite-list] San Juan Capistrano

2011-06-01 Thread jason utas
Hello All, I've gotten the impression from the emails on the list that people believe that this fall consisted of two separate stones. The fall consisted of a single stone that fell without sonic effects or any real witnesses; a neighbor recalled hearing a loud noise (when the stone likely hit

[meteorite-list] Information needed regarding NWA 4419

2011-05-12 Thread jason utas
a photo of a sample they have -- or any information at all regarding the stone in addition to what is mentioned in the bulletin -- anything like that would be appreciated. Thanks, Jason Utas __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list

Re: [meteorite-list] whole stone concerns / Mifflin, WHAT is amiss

2011-05-09 Thread jason utas
Hello All, If we require in-situ photos, the next con-artist could simply drop the stones on their lawn (wherever that might be) and snap some photos before selling their stones with provenance. Or maybe the fake material will be placed in front of a recognizable landmark in the strewn-field

Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus Specimens, IMCA membership, and honesty issues.

2011-05-09 Thread Jason Utas
, May 9, 2011 at 9:17 AM, M come Meteorite i...@mcomemeteorite.it wrote:  Jason Utas have put in discussion my first find of Lido Di Venezia meteorite where he have say its a meteorite from the desert. Now we are under take a analysis for confirm the age of this meteorite, and just for stop

[meteorite-list] Mifflin, Amiss

2011-05-07 Thread jason utas
it to others as a new meteorite, that is his concern. I am fairly certain that Bryan, Michael, and Greg unknowingly sold the material as Mifflin, believing that it was indeed what they sold it as. That is my 2 cents. Regards, Jason Utas __ Visit

Re: [meteorite-list] OT - OBAMA BIN LADEN DEAD!

2011-05-01 Thread Jason Utas
I won't believe it until I see his death certificate. On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: Right after Obama's speech, we will hear from Trump stating that he is proud to have accomplished this task! -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison Sent:

Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.

2011-04-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Graham, Not a chassignite, but you're close...ish. The DaG 400: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Lunar+meteoritesmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=17042 The Zagami:

Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta?

2011-04-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, A dunite is a type of ultramafic rock composed of olivine. It is associated with conditions/an origin in the (upper) mantle of a differentiated body (not just Earth). They form at greater depths than one would find any significant amount of orthopyroxene, and are composed primarily of

Re: [meteorite-list] New 5+ Kilo Lunar - Shisr 162

2011-04-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Michael, All, You should check the WUSTL list more often; it's been posted for some months. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/unnamed19.htm The list: http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/moon_meteorites_list_alumina.htm The lunar you mention is largely uncut, and resides in the hands

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Presentation in Berkeley, CA - April 16

2011-04-06 Thread jason utas
have some space rocks on hand, including some new and exciting ones that you may not have seen or heard about yet! If you know you'll be able to make it, please let me know! Thanks, Regards, Jason Jason Utas University of California, Berkeley 2012 College of Letters and Science Geology, Psychology

Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

2011-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
Elton, A few things, 1) This issue is essentially identical to a similar situation from about a year ago in which a list-member publicly 'called out' another member on supposed illegal things they'd done. Regardless of the court's verdict, the person who publicly posted the libel (yes, libel,

Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine

2011-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
of this but you two are very much alike and that is a good thing. Carl Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Elton, A few things, 1) This issue is essentially identical to a similar situation from about a year ago in which a list-member publicly 'called

Re: [meteorite-list] Onlist Offlist and Ethics...was tat

2011-04-02 Thread Jason Utas
effort where your mouth is and if you feel compelled to chastise me or lie about me-- follow your own demands and write me off list.  I do not just now have your emails set to automatically get File 13ed. Elton - Original Message From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil

2011-03-13 Thread Jason Utas
not allow ANYTHING to be taken. Meteorites would fall generally under the ANYTHING category? ?? Maybe? Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Carl, You don't seem to understand what I'm saying. 1) The Egyptian government has made

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil

2011-03-12 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Richard, Greg, All, To date an estimated 2-3 tonnes of shrapnel fragments have been recovered, ranging in weight from a few grams to 35 kilograms. One regmaglypted individual was found, weighing 83kg. It was discovered and retained by the scientific expedition that first explored the

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil

2011-03-12 Thread Jason Utas
with regard to other minerals and fossils and it was stated that they do not belong to the finder either and therefore they are not yours to take. Just asking? thanks. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Richard, Greg, All

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil

2011-03-12 Thread Jason Utas
not be legal here? I don't know if it is or not. I am asking how the meteorite community feels about this sort of thing??? Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Carl, If we were talking about private ownership, I'd have to agree

Re: [meteorite-list] Earth Rocks! (Was: Help with Ebay bidding)

2011-03-08 Thread Jason Utas
in space if you go far enough back in time. Hell... Earth itself is one big rock in space. ;) Regards, Eric On 3/7/2011 9:24 PM, Jason Utas wrote: It means that for some irrational reason, we have all decided that it is a worthwhile endeavor to spend our hard-earned money on chunks

Re: [meteorite-list] Help with Ebay bidding

2011-03-07 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I'd like to point out a few things. First and foremost is that we are meteorite collectors. Collectors. What does that mean? It means that for some irrational reason, we have all decided that it is a worthwhile endeavor to spend our hard-earned money on chunks of rock that happen to

Re: [meteorite-list] changed to: Trials and Tribulations We'll Be living With For a While

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Utas
Wouldn't the signed contracts dictate that Steve only return 25% of what was found? Since the agreement was 25/75 (mentioned in the video), the issue, it seems, could be entirely settled if Steve turned 25% of the finds over to the landowners. If the money's not there, it seems to me like that

Re: [meteorite-list] changed to: Trials and Tribulations We'll Be living With For a While

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Utas
Greg, All, Since the money is apparently not being made, unless you can propose some new marketing method whereby Steve could sell all of the finds in a reasonable amount of time, I see returning 25% of them as a fair compromise. The impression I got from watching that video was that the farmer

Re: [meteorite-list] Open Court

2011-02-22 Thread Jason Utas
of anything more than *possibly* being over-optimistic with regards to sale prices. But there's clearly a miscommunication of some sort going on - or else there wouldn't be a farmer complaining about being cheated on the news. Regards, Jason Jason Utas University of California, Berkeley 2012 College

Re: [meteorite-list] A Survey for Collectors

2011-02-21 Thread Jason Utas
to be an educational thread, not an ad. Regards, Jason Jason Utas University of California, Berkeley 2012 College of Letters and Science Psychology, Geology On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin, I can say that any meteorite found in the USA, in known

Re: [meteorite-list] Unknown irons at ASU

2011-02-11 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Iron number one is not Tafrawhet (NWA 860). The expression of widmanstatten patterns on irons' cut surfaces is governed by how a given iron is cut relative to the iron's internal octahedral structure. When cut parallel to the 001 miller indicatrix of the taenite octahedrons, they

Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?

2011-02-07 Thread Jason Utas
Michael, All, I'd like to point out that the above articles do not shed any light on the professional demeanor of our own Count (Robert Deiro). To quote one of the articles: Robert Deiro, who started the auction business in 1976 and sold it to his son in 1991, is estranged from his son. He's

Re: [meteorite-list] Not Weston?!

2011-01-18 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Dirk, All, That specimen is typical of larger pieces of the Weston H-breccia. I've seen photos of other larger pieces and they all look like that, give or take. Yale has a larger piece: http://www.peabody.yale.edu/collections/met/met_weston.html Aaaand Frank just found another photo. Good

Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite used as Neolithic Tool

2011-01-05 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mike, http://www.meteoritica.com/bouanane.htm Regards, Jason On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:36 AM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, A new meteorite (Bouanane) was added to the Met Bulletin yesterday and in the description it says the meteorite was used as a

Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite used as Neolithic Tool

2011-01-05 Thread Jason Utas
From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 8:42:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite used as Neolithic Tool Hello Mike, http://www.meteoritica.com/bouanane.htm

Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Asian falls

2011-01-03 Thread Jason Utas
, and misinformation. Happy New Year, Jason -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Utas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Dezember 2010 09:24 An: Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Another crazy bidder on ebay

2011-01-02 Thread Jason Utas
Carl, All, For those who apparently don't know how to read the bidding statistics on a given page, the important thing to look at is the time at which a bid was placed -- not the order in which it appears on the list. The current top bid, held by 3***g( 93), was placed on December 31st, at

Re: [meteorite-list] WG: Asian falls

2010-12-30 Thread Jason Utas
Martin, All, I would like to point out that the law prohibiting the approved export of meteorites from Australia, the Protection of Movable Cultural Heritage Act, was passed in 1986. 309 meteorites have been recovered, analyzed, and officially published in Australia since then, not including the

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction)

2010-12-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Martin, All, although I'm not so rhetorically trained like you, I guess, you started (once again) in your initial email with a post hoc ergo propter hoc.. After all, if I knew you would reply anyways ; ) The greater good of . don't teach us anything new. 1st - who else is

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - December 22, 2010

2010-12-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Count, Mundrabilla looks like so when cut: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Mundrabilla_meteorite_NMNH_slice.jpg It's a coral-like intergrowth of Fe-Ni and troilite. They would probably have looked spectacular when found, but sadly their current surface morphology is due

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction)

2010-12-20 Thread Jason Utas
- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Utas Gesendet: Montag, 20. Dezember 2010 01:29 An: Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction) Hello All, I'd like to reply

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction)

2010-12-19 Thread Jason Utas
helpful and kind. He sold the meteorite main mass to Michael Cottingham. The main mass now resides with a person named Jason Utas, who I also plan on contacting. If you find out more please share. This was an interesting investigation. Thank you for all your help and concern. I'm hoping my

Re: [meteorite-list] [meteorite-list?????] [IMCA] Update 2 - Wilbur Wash (correction)

2010-12-19 Thread Jason Utas
IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Sun, 12/19/10, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Update 2

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

2010-12-19 Thread Jason Utas
To make things more interesting - tri-ball34 just got a lot of positive feedback from a seller. All relatively inexpensive small NWAs. Jason On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote: Lets see if these links come through: Here is the bid cancellation form for

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine

2010-12-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Dennis, This was sent to the list pretty recently: --- fromRobert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com dateWed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:27 PM subject [meteorite-list] November Meteorite Magazine Is On The Way mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Arizona Meteorite Find

2010-12-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hum. I beg to differ. http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg78386.html I believe I was first :D Regards, Jason On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net wrote: Way cool, Ruben. Congratulations. I see it's only the third mesosiderite

Re: [meteorite-list] Breja Fall Date?

2010-12-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Michael, All, The current fall date is disputed and 'officially' unknown at the moment. From what I've heard, Albert Jambon is currently writing a paper on the fall and was interviewing some of the local populous I believe just last week. I hope it will contain a concrete verdict on the

Re: [meteorite-list] List of known Rusters?

2010-12-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I can't speak for its effectiveness, but Rig Universal Grease is still available:

Re: [meteorite-list] Dodgy auction for Barbotan

2010-11-30 Thread Jason Utas
Ebay actually dealt with this promptly: --- Thank you for taking the time to let us know about the 1790 Barbotan meteorite listing (item no. 120653596499) that you suspect breached eBay's policy. We take reports of members who break our rules very seriously. I can confirm that the item is no

[meteorite-list] Fwd: Foundry Information

2010-11-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hello List, Below is the Los Angeles foundry information - sorry it took me so long to get, but it was apparently buried in the records at home - Peter managed to find it. Regards, Jason -- Forwarded message -- From: peteru...@aol.com Date: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 12:03 AM

Re: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales!

2010-11-27 Thread Jason Utas
Besides the fact that CDs that large are MUCH more rare. Saying that something is rare doesn't mean it won't turn up on ebay. Our 36 kilogram Canyon Diablo was listed as a Campo a number of years ago by someone brokering an old collection.

Re: [meteorite-list] Cometary meteorites

2010-11-24 Thread Jason Utas
and Impact in the Americas --- On Tue, 11/23/10, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cometary meteorites To: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com, Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday

Re: [meteorite-list] Cometary meteorites

2010-11-23 Thread Jason Utas
or may not have samples of the other asteroid classes; that is a completely different issue, and if you'd like to start a new thread, by all means do so. Regards, Jason Jason Utas University of California, Berkeley 2012 College of Letters and Science Psychology, Geology On Tue, Nov 23, 2010

Re: [meteorite-list] nano diamonds in Allende

2010-11-20 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Thomasz works with Raman Spectroscopy and knows what he's talking about - if he says they're not 500nm in daimeter, I'd trust him. It's a topic I've been looking into for graduate studies and at the moment, Berkeley doesn't even have the capabilities for looking at such things because

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite casting.

2010-11-20 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Marcin, Dieter, All, Four our irons, we use a foundry here in Los Angeles that produces fine bronze and iron replicas, weighed if desired. If you'd like their contact information, I can forward it to you. Regards, Jason On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM, spo...@poczta.onet.pl wrote: Hi,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite casting.

2010-11-20 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Todd, All, They color the casts with some sort of finish - I'm not sure exactly what it is, but you can choose a pre-set finish and they'll do that - or you can show them the original and ask them to do their best to match it. They got pretty good results with the few irons we've asked them

Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay

2010-11-18 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Linton, On the contrary - both of the links that you posted are to auctions of botryoidal hematite specimens, and the seller has an additional auction with a collection of small hematite pieces. You can tell by looking for the round, bubbly shaped protuberances visible on the specimen

Re: [meteorite-list] POP QUIZ ANSWER

2010-11-14 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Shawn, All, I think I can shed some light on the confusion regarding this topic - centered on the question of what exactly constitutes a Nothwest Africa[n] meteorite. The earliest recovered meteorite from Morocco is Mrirt, a 79.9 kilogram iron found in 1937. It has apparently never been

Re: [meteorite-list] Secret BLM maps

2010-11-04 Thread Jason Utas
Adam, All, I don't understand the hypocrisy of your agreeing to the 250 lb per year maximum, while crying 'foul' at stricter laws being imposed by different branches of our government. If you were arguing about the right and wrong of collecting meteorites and other rocks from a moral standpoint,

Re: [meteorite-list] Smithville man almost hit by meteorite

2010-11-04 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, The meteorite photographed looks like a small, weathered iron meteorite that has been wire-brushed. Seeing as the finder, Duncan, is a self-employed painter, whose business had slowed down to the point he is struggling to make ends meet, and who is indeed planning to sell his rock, as

Re: [meteorite-list] Double-Blind Experiments Testing Dowsing

2010-10-20 Thread Jason Utas
To nudge the dying horse... Thank you, Paul, for posting such comprehensive studies. Perhaps the others who stubbornly insist on believing in pseudoscience will slowly realize that their claims are based on ignorance, and not true open-mindedness. While innovation in both invention and idea has

[meteorite-list] Very strange Nickel-Iron (and Troilite) structure in a NWA chondrite (answer)

2010-10-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I replied in private, and resent my post to the list already, but apparently it didn't go through the first time. I've seen several identical inclusions in shocked and melted chondrites; the darker material is troilite (iron sulfide) and the lighter material is nickel-iron.  It has

Re: [meteorite-list] more meteorites (AD)

2010-10-19 Thread Jason Utas
Please keep private messages off-list, Dave. Thanks, Jason On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:21 PM, dave carothers carother...@gmail.com wrote: No thanks. - Original Message - From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 19,

Re: [meteorite-list] esquel still available for trade (AD)

2010-09-17 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Steve, All, I don't think it's quite right to offer something for trade when you're contractually obliged to let it run out the next 6 days on ebay. Granted, it hasn't met reserve, but...still kind of sketchy there.

[meteorite-list] AD - Cape York Esquel for sale

2010-09-15 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, I decided to make a purchase of my own and need to raise some funds fairly quickly. As such, I'm offering the following pieces for sale. Cape York - 46 gram part slice with troilite inclusion. There are a number of mm-sized troilites visible upon close inspection, as well as two small

Re: [meteorite-list] Missouri Round Rocks are tektites?

2010-09-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Bill, All, Google-ing Osceola round rocks turned up the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaubleau-Osceola_structure Excerpt: Round rocks of Osceola Long thought to be a glacial remnant, these conglomerate rocks are found in the area of Osceola. They are nearly perfectly round,

Re: [meteorite-list] Search for first U.S. lunar meteorite, Sajkowitz

2010-08-26 Thread Jason Utas
is found, my bet is that the finder will be either Sonny Clary or Jason Utas. Both have demonstrated the ability to find non-ordinary-chondrite meteorites -- for instance, Blue Eagle (R3-6) and Moapa Valley (CM1) by Sonny, and Superior Valley 014 (acapulcoite) by Jason. Another name I've seen

Re: [meteorite-list] Magnet canes are evil DONT THINK SO!

2010-08-24 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Eric Actually has something of a valid point, I think. I've heard that using a rare-earth magnet on a planetary meteorite can realign the magnetic domains within the stone. While that may not seem too important, some people have studied the magnetic properties of martian meteorites as

[meteorite-list] Cirebon with photo

2010-08-19 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Sadly I can't read the page, but it's an intriguing photo. http://hotlinenow.blogspot.com/2010/08/meteor-cirebon.html Regards, Jason __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events

2010-08-12 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Chris, Eric, The simple answer is no. No meteorites have ever been found that match all criteria for what we believe cometary material should look like. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1004.pdf This is also the sort of topic that has been brought up again and again on the

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events

2010-08-12 Thread Jason Utas
Haha, but Sterling -- I'd like to refer you to one of the posts (one of yours!) I linked to in my reply: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg84604.html The Wisconsin fall was another coincidence -- and it's not the only one. If you go through the fall calendars,

Re: [meteorite-list] Pale Blue Dot

2010-08-11 Thread Jason Utas
Whatever you say, Horton... On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Yup! From what I hear there's life on that mote of dust. On 8/11/2010 12:58 AM, star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: There are people on that speck! Sent on the Sprint® Now Network

Re: [meteorite-list] Weird inclusion in NWA 2086 CV3

2010-08-10 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Jeff, All, The only reason that I assumed that this slice *might* be a piece of NWA 2089 is because of that dark corner - it's the only part of this stone that looks *like* NWA 2086. The light lithology that you say looks like NWA 2086 looks very unlike other samples of 2086:

[meteorite-list] AD - 6.1 gram complete australite

2010-08-10 Thread Jason Utas
Hey All, A year or so ago, I managed to acquire a pretty nice example of an australite - this 6.1 gram complete flanged button. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=102083id=508345918l=b6c21a6903 Granted, it has some cooling cracks, but it doesn't have a single chip, new or old. It's also

Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell on flanged button prices (Was: Spectacular Tektite on eBay)

2010-08-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Stuart, The following page has a great summary: http://www.tektites.co.uk/australasian.html If you click on the picture, you'll get a larger version that you can read. It puts australites into perspective with other australaisian tektites. If you want to learn more about australites'

Re: [meteorite-list] Darryl Futrell on flanged button prices (Was:Spectacular Tektite on eBay)

2010-08-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Stuart, Well, we don't find meteorites accosicated with craters very often, for a number of reasons. First and foremost is that most of the craters found in the past have been pretty old - on the order of millions of years. Wolf Creek is one of the older craters that we know of where

[meteorite-list] Gebel Kemil not found anywhere near contested border

2010-08-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello David, All, I don't know who the first person was who claimed that Gebel Kamil was found in disputed territory (you might check the archives ;), but that's not the case, at all. I'm surprised that no one has commented on this sooner, granted that all of the information is easily accessible

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kemil article in New Scientist

2010-08-05 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Keiron, All, Right, but those meteorites have already done their part for science by being analyzed, etc. You're getting two ideas mixed up: that meteorites are important sources of information for understanding our early solar system -- and that public interest in meteorites should be

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage

2010-07-30 Thread Jason Utas
a matter of different perspectives. Sincerely, Luigi End of quote. Regards, Svend Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com hat am 30. Juli 2010 um 07:16 geschrieben: Hello Regine, All, While I agree that the overall shapes of the irons are similar, and concede that you probably know more

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage

2010-07-29 Thread Jason Utas
I had this post as a draft earlier - seems a perfect time to post it: Hello All, The initial expedition did in fact find more than one *complete individual* from the fall. If you take a look at the following website, you'll see links to two photos:

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage

2010-07-29 Thread Jason Utas
levels should be considered with caution. Regards, Svend Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote at 29. July 2010, 13:31: I had this post as a draft earlier - seems a perfect time to post it: Hello All, The initial expedition did in fact find more than one *complete individual* from the fall

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage

2010-07-29 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Bernd, Svend, All, 1) The background for each photo is significantly different. One is loose sand. The other, large rocks. The photos were therefor not taken in the same place. 2) The photo on the left is pretty clearly the iron before it was moved. It's well-embedded in undisturbed

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage

2010-07-29 Thread Jason Utas
it seems quite likely to be the same individual. Good night everyone, Regine --- Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com schrieb am Do, 29.7.2010: Von: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage An: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5363 UNGROUPED OR BRACHNITE

2010-07-25 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, Sorry - I've been a little out of things for the past few days. I know I've got a few emails to get back to, and I'll get to 'em. With regard to the original topic of this thread: I addressed it before. Dr. Jambon has said that he studied the meteorite and that NWA 5363 it is paired

Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD

2010-07-22 Thread Jason Utas
not be too surprising to find Hermean meteorites. Additional arguments supporting this conjecture were given by Irving et al. [1]. Shawn Alan [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD Jason Utas meteoritekid at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 20:13:36 EDT 2010

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4662 ANGRITE

2010-07-22 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Kai, You might be interested to know that your specimen is paired to NWA 2836, 2999, 3164, and 6291. http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa4662.htm But I checked the Meteoritical Bulletin, and there are more pairings! NWA 3158, 4569, 4662, 4931, and possibly 4877 are all part of the same

Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale -...

2010-07-22 Thread Jason Utas
I am not disputing other crystals in angrites, my comments were to the translucent slices like mine has. While many chimed in and claimed to have seen such, still, nobody has shown pictures of an angrite with back lit translucent crystals (like in a pallasite) that are 1cm x 1cm in size.

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil crater website

2010-07-22 Thread Jason Utas
Is there any chance that a list-member might have saved some (or even all?) of the photos from the site? It appears to have been taken down. Thanks, Jason On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gary, Anne and List, LDG has an accepted age

Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD

2010-07-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Greg, All, I managed to turn up these pages: http://www.meteoritestudies.com/protected_DORBIGNY.HTM http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/nwa-2934-angrite-meteorite-possible-nwa-2999-3164-1 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2001/pdf/1876.pdf So, NWA 2836, 2999, 3164 (all three

Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD

2010-07-21 Thread Jason Utas
/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 7/21/10, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale - AD To: Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Its official! NWA 6291 The King of Angrites for sale -...

2010-07-21 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Anne, A beautiful example! I'd like to stress the fact that I'm not trying to put Greg's Angrite down in any way - it's just that there *are* other Angrites that display translucent crystals (clearly)...and they probably aren't from Mercury. I know that the Hupe's seem to refute this

Re: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoite/Lodranite Parent-body

2010-07-19 Thread Jason Utas
/meteorite/Meteorite/Book-PrimitiveAchond.html Regards, Jason Utas On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:15 PM, al mitt alm...@kconline.com wrote: Hi Jeff, Here is what McSween has to say about these two classes.  Distinct in appearance but form a coherent group with continuously varying characteristics

Re: [meteorite-list] New Nevada Iron meteorite on Ebay

2010-07-15 Thread Jason Utas
And a Canyon Diablo with bubbles visible on its more sheltered surfaces: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160453998951ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_7385wt_1132 Gotta watch out for that slag! Regards, Jason On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?

2010-07-13 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Mirko, All, That's just not true at all - plenty of irons have seen plastic deformation without becoming ataxites. Seymchan: http://www.carionmineraux.com/mineraux/Mineraux_Juillet_aout_2008/meteorite_seymchan_1.jpg http://www.imca.cc/insights/2007/II06-img/Seymchan.jpg Henbury:

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?

2010-07-13 Thread Jason Utas
-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) --- Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com schrieb am Di, 13.7.2010

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metrictons!?!?

2010-07-13 Thread Jason Utas
recently with the hammer stones. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Utas Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Juli 2010 15:23 An: Meteorite-list Betreff: Re

Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?

2010-07-12 Thread Jason Utas
Mike, Greg, All, Just 1.6 tonnes? It's a 40 meter crater. Use some logic/physics. Carancas made a 40 *foot* crater. The low estimates of its mass were in the 2-3 tonne range. This crater is three times the diameter... The amount that's there is going to be a lot more than 1,600 kg. I'd guess

Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta Flyby of Asteroid 21 Lutetia

2010-07-09 Thread Jason Utas
Hola, We seem to have a bit of a problem... The article seems to suggest that carbonaceous chondrites have a density between nearly 4 and 5 grams per cubic centimeter. Might anyone on the list be willing to comment on this slight discrepancy? A team of researchers used the VLT and Keck telescopes

Re: [meteorite-list] Holy Smoldering Chunks of Rock Batman!

2010-07-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, ...Or not. http://www.wcmessenger.com/update/?p=2566 The whole story is fishy, though. If a stony meteorite hit a cement driveway, it would likely shatter, and would almost certainly not remain embedded at the bottom of the hole/chip it made. An iron, might be strong enough to

Re: [meteorite-list] Trends with WI Fall and alike for July

2010-07-01 Thread Jason Utas
The tkw and number of stones recovered from WI are significantly smaller than those of Ash Creek, so prices are likely to stay fairly high, but...it's a fall like any other, so the price will likely deflate once the typical frenzy fades. I'm still trying to figure out why the price jump occurred,

Re: [meteorite-list] Wire saw / Marlin cilz

2010-05-08 Thread Jason Utas
http://montanameteoritelab.com/ On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:36 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: Hi All, Would anyone have Marlin's contact info. Thanks, Sonny __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010

2010-05-08 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All, All we can do is look at this object...objectively. Sterling made some good points; while it might be possible for an iron meteorite to attain such a shape...it's not likely. It seems much more likely to be a man-made object if only becauseit's a very inorganic shape. It's one

Re: [meteorite-list] New position on hunting BLM lands

2010-05-05 Thread Jason Utas
Hello David, All, I spent the weekend camping with some friends and somehow managed to get type-A strep. by the day we returned, so I'm just getting back into the swing of things. I have a few other emails to get back to, which I'll do in short order. This is nothing new, and has been the policy

Re: [meteorite-list] New position on hunting BLM lands

2010-05-05 Thread Jason Utas
a look at the page for which I just included a link. Rock collecting in general is clearly allowed. Jason -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jason Utas Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 5:55 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Prices

2010-05-01 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Steve, All, I'm going to say that this is no longer about Joe's find, but about meteorites in general...Martin's message is replied to below this post. The scientific value in a meteorite is in the information it contains.  To obtain most of this information, a rock has to be cut,

Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Prices

2010-04-30 Thread Jason Utas
, except by art critics. The criticism and condescension exhibited by some meteorite collectors over the collecting or curatorial preferences of others leaves me feeling uncomfortable. Wishing everyone a terrific weekend / Darryl On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:00 AM, Jason Utas wrote: You don't

Re: [meteorite-list] AD; wisconsin slices - was $60 per gram AD

2010-04-29 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Greg, All, First-off, congrats to Joe - hell of a find. But I really don't understand what you bring up, Greg. If it's your dream to find one, and you finally do, you don't cut it up and sell it three days later. The story reminds me of quite a few, to be honest: dealer chases down new

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