Hello Shawn,
The radio shack etchant is ferric chloride and it works very fast. It is a
deep etch and will give more contast and bring out detail you will not get
using Nitric. (We etched a Fredericksberg Hexahedrite for Richard Norton
once and brough out much Neumann line structure, and he
Add Red Dry Lake (Ca) 001 to that list. I am wondering why the committee
has refused to accept the classification when everything has been documented
and I understand that all requirements now made? (emails from: Robert
Verish, J. Grossman, and others, 2000, 2004, 2010. (I first had this
NWA 2683 is provisonal but the pallasites are real! Since its been 6.5
years, strange that it has not yet been classified.
Ron Hartman
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From: John Lutzon j...@hc.fdn.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:11 AM
Subject:
Did the Meteorite Collecting magazine extras show up?
Ron Hartman
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From: Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com
To: Don Edwards iceda...@swbell.net;
meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Sunday,
Meteor, meteorite, and meteoioid:
In response to the American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005
by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company, which
is reported here to have stated that the object itself may be termed a
meteor while in flight through the
Alexander Seidel wrote it will *definitely* happen on New Years Eve, at
approximately 00:42:42 [hh:mm:ss] UTC, right over (..well, admitted,
approximately..) latitude 27deg 32min 42sec N of the equator and longitude
33deg 04min 42sec W of Greenwich, which unfortunately happens to be right
over
Example: Once I purchased a pricy slice of NWA 482 and asked Mike Farmer
to send it overnight express, and two weeks later it had not arrived. I
just happened to be at the postoffice talking to the manager in the back
where stuff comes in when a bag of parcel post packages arrived. Right on
I received the following two separate replies from the seller:
I have had 18 emails about the meteorites. I will pull the autcions and
reimburse the winners. It was a misunderstanding on my part, as I believed
them to be Weston Meteorites.
Yes, it appears you are correct. I have been made
Plane identified as being exactly in the path of the contrail at the exact
time and correct altitude. Coming from Hawaii and passing over Catalina
Island on way to Phoenix. Exact match and all details explained.
See the explanation:
There are regions in the California Coastal Mountains that I have studied as
a student in Ed Krupps Archaeoastronomy courses. They are at several
thousand feet and some locations look down onto the central valley. There
are many caves that have meaningful Chumash Indian paintings. Although
Hello Ken and all:
meteorist? Perhaps re: the gentleman in question who refers to himself
thusly, the following may be as appropriate?
meteorism
Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary
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[edit] English
[edit] Noun
meteorism (plural meteorisms)
1.. A rapid
Yes, indeed! Bob Haag had a mortar and pestle in which he pulverized crumbs
of NWA 482 (I believe, but if not it was another Lunar) into powder. He
would have guests to his vault (which was larger than most houses) put a
finger into the mortar and then lick off a bit of dust. I think I much
So regarding the article, in essence this interpretation is saying that if
you have a lease on land at which time a meteorite lands on it, you have
legal rights to it. But you must have the lease, not be wandering down a
public road or across a school yard, or even being on a dry lake or the
Good morning all:
In reference to all the posts and interests regarding Gebel Kamio, it is my
understanding that only 20 kilo of Gebel Kamil was approved for
removal from the crater for scientific purposes by the research team that
explored the crater, and that a quantity was later removed by
Hello Martin,
Saw your inquiry and I don't know how large your slices are but you might be
interested in checking out some of our larger size membrane boxes. Box
sizes with O.D. up to 150 x 300 mm for thin slices and 250 x 200 x 200 mm
which will handle an iron individual up to 3371 g.
Sonny: You may not realize how very lucky you probably were. Most of the
tme these are dry lakes, but they become real lakes very quickly. They
are there because they are the low points of a basin, and very quickly
collect all the runoff water from the surrounding areas.
The Old Barstow
They (the BLM) don't want to allow meteorite collecting but they will allow
ATV's to race and tear up the lake bed.
- Original Message -
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re:
...and when you hit a piece with a hammer it will shatter where an actual
nickel-iron meteorite will bounce and laugh at you! The meteorite oxide,
fondly referred to as oxidite was at one time a true meteorite but the
iron has oxidized and become terrestrialized, i.e. some of the original
How did you get them classified so rapidly? Are these data available
somewhere?
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From: onther...@usairborne.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:14 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] My Meteorite hunt in Nevada end of June 1st of
This seller should be reported to eBay. This is a first-class fraud. I did
write him and gave him the scoop on the off-chance he is just dumb!. Maybe
everyone else here should as well.
Ron
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From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite
It won't be long before we can account for most of the 25,000! :=)
Not that this means much in the scheme of thingsbut as far as my
business goes it is pretty amazing.
Last night my ebay auctions concluded for the week and I sold my 25,000th
meteorite.
I keep fairly accurate records and
Hello Michael,
Absolutely disgusting!
www.membranebox.com
will donate $100.00 even though I am not one of the hunters and we will
donate an appopriately sized membrane box for any specimen obtained. I was
born in Milwaukee so this can be a contribution to the local region's
schools from
I was just browsing through some of the posts on Joes Skyrockcafe website
when I ran across a post from a collector who was unhappy with the Radio
Shack etchant for iron meteorites. He claims to have sanded a Campo down to
#400 but could not get a Widmanstatten pattern, although he did get a
http://www.meteorite1.com/lweb.htm
No. It is open to collecting (persumably minerals) but all vehicles are now
legally prohibited from driving on the dry lake. Don't know whether you
would be chased off or whether it is being patrolled, but if you attempt an
overnight camp be aware of flash
I'm showing some of the episodes to my college Astronomy classes as an
introduction to meteoritics before I lug out the specimens to pass around so
they can touch and examine in detail. I think showing the process of
exploration and recovery is excellent. .
Ron Hartman
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From time to time I have put our micro membrane boxes as well as larger
boxes on ebay, beginning at a minimum bid. Without exception they are
always bid right up to the list price on our website www.membranebox.com. I
seem not to be able to give any special auction deals!
Ron Hartman
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their claim was for specific minerals, of which a meteorite isn't
included
There were four claims registered and they were named after four planets,
Jupiter, Saturn, Mars and Venus. A map that I saw showed the center of the
claims located at the center of the crater. The plan was always to
John Blennart wrote: It seems that meteorite Hunting (from now on) will be
illegal on all
government lands - yes even BLM!
This has always been the case. You must obtain permission from the land
owner. Some desert area are a mix of BLM, state, county and/or city and
private land; such is the
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From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]Who is Dr. LaPaz
Hello Shawn,
I would think it might go for about $16,000, (based on what I see smaller
pieces
From: rhartma...@earthlink.net
To: sciencegraph...@msn.com
CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who is Dr. LaPaz
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 01:11:00 -0800
Nininger was standing on top of the main mass of the Norton County
Meteorite
when LaPaz and another museum
Where?
- Original Message -
From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] 9.8 LB Stony Meteorite - NO RESERVE starting at $1
See here.
Hello Paul,
See Arizona's Meteor Crater by H H Nininger, American Meteorite Laboratory,
Denver, Co. 1956; p. 26. He shows in a map S. J. Holsinger had made (1908)
showing distribution of meteorite fragments that had been recovered. See
also: Smithsonian Institution Contr. to Astrophysics,
Hello McCartney (and all):
Yes, the etch happens very quickly and you need to terminate it by a quick
wash under running water. Follow with a rinse in distilled water if you
want to but we never do and it works fine. You don;t have to neutralize it,
just wash it off VERY FAST. In fact, I
of Nitric
Acid) in Meteorite Times, November, 2002:
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/November/index.htm
Ron Hartman
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From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
To: mccart...@blackbearddata.com; MeteoriteList
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent
it,
the CBN blades are best and primarily for cutting irons.
Ron
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From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:52 PM
Subject
That because a Diamond blade (but not all!) with the very fine continuous
diamond mesh does not cut, it sands. It sands its way right through your
tough iron meteorite and if your saw is running smoothly it will give your
slice a high polish as it finishes the cut. If you have some issues
Unfortunately the polyurethane membrane does not take well to oozing blobs
of toxic ferrous oxide. Meteorites should be dried out i.e. the
contaminents removed before placing into the membrane box. There are
various methods that have been discussed on the list and elsewhere. For
Irons,
My notes from Dr. Frederick D. Leonard's Meteoritics 118 class which I took
at UCLA (I believe in1962) say:
A meteorite is any object of sub-planetary mass which has landed on Earth,
or some other astronomical body, and still retains its original cosmic
characteristics.
(Little did he know
Aloha Gary,
I'd also like to know more about seller's experiences collecting insurance
from the USPS. They tell me that unless you can document a tangible basis
for cost that you paid (invoice, receipts, etc.) you can not collect even
though you hasve paid for insurance. This is difficult
Hello Mike, to respond to yor post: PS: this should be another thread,
but how come a place like the Canyon
Diablo
Meteor Crater site is a private enterprise ?!
I know we talk about USA but still... such a place should be State or
Federal property, no ?!
or did I not understand properly your
NOTICE:
Mt. San Antonio College is interested in purchasing a pallasite for student
display. Please note the following:
Amounted budgeted is $500.00 only (tax and shipping many be added as
applicable).
No preference as to which find is offered as long as it is a stable piece.
Preferably, a
NOTICE:
Mt. San Antonio College is interested in purchasing a pallasite for student
display. Please note the following:
Amounted budgeted is $500.00 only (tax and shipping many be added as
applicable).
No preference as to which find is offered as long as it is a stable piece.
Preferably,
So are we saying that all the land owners have gotten together along with
county, state and federal authorities to form posse's? None of that land
has ever been public. All of it is either private, or otherwise owned in
part as BLM or other local, state or federal lands. As to hunting on
Test
please ignore.
If you've ready this far,
happy new year!
Ron Hartman
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WOW indeed!
Ron Hartman
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From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 13, 2007 5:10 PM
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Crater String Claim
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:03:49 -0500, you wrote:
TEST
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Seller states on his ebay ad:
OUM ROKBA (provisional)
The Old Woman's Knee!
Oum Rokba is a new meteorite from Morroco. Nomads found hundreds of complete
stones a fewkilometres from an oasis called Oum Rokba - or the Old Woman's
Knee.
It has been classified H5 by UCLA.
Yes, classified by
Alex wrote NEVER EVER cut specimen like these just for the sake of getting
some classification data!
Then cut the cast instead. :=)
(He!He!)
Ron
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From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday,
The old email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not working due to problems
the domain provider seems unable to solve.
Therefore a new email address has been set up: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This will also work at Paypal to send funds for an order.
Please note for your files.
Thank You,
Ron Hartman
Hello Mike,
Haven't received your email!
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Ron
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www.meteorite1.com
This is not an ad. It is a reply to an inquiry! :=)
Ron
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From: tett
Here is our silly story:
One delivery of membrane boxes from the factory in Europe to us in the U.S.
by FedEx consisted of 19 parcels ( about 3 cu. ft. ea.). They all arrived
at customs in Memphis, Tennessee. But then18 came to us in Califonia and
one was delivered to an attorney in the Bahamas
Yes, and as example, the quite bland Fredericksburg will show beautiful
Neumann lines when properly etched with Ferric Chloride.
Ron Hartman
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From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:11 AM
Subject:
They also sell micro membrane boxes at $36.00/dozen.
Our price for one dozen is $24.00, with even better prices on quantity, We
are the only factory licensed distributor in the U,S.
Price speaks for itself.
Ron Hartman
www.membranebox.com
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From: Dave Carothers
It must orbit the sun, be massive enough that its own gravity pulls it
into a nearly round shape,
So if it has the shape of a dinner plate it is a planet? It would be a
strange object, indeed! :=)
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test please ignore
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Please see my article Some Fundamentals of Common Chondrite Classification
in Meteorites 101 archived in Meteorite Times.
Ron Hartman
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From: Walter L. Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:34 AM
Subject:
Its on often during the break after Worldwide Exchange and before Squawk Box
(3 A.M.) PST on CNBC. Worth staying up late for or getting up early to see.
Based around a meteoroid landing on a dry lake and making a crater...but I
don't want to spoil the idea of why!
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Our experience:
You will not remove all the moisture that gets deep into fissures and at the
boundaries of the inclusions in an iron meteorite simply by any method if
the meteorite is treated at room temperatures. We heat the iron meteorite
in an oven to a high temperature in a protecting oil
Case in point: I was the first person to decide to search Dry Lakes for
meteorites, and this turned up the Lucerne Dry Lake (CA) finds, the initial
find on July 21, 1963. No one else seemed to very much care about hunting
on Dry Lakes then. Many hours were spent searching a number of Dry Lakes
Wards was selling Brenham slices in the late 60's. I suspect that the buyer
got the name mixed up. I had a nice piece that I used in classroom demos
back then until a student dropped a large Canyon Diablo on it. Lesson:
Don't leave specimens on a table for students to handle! (It was very
Just received the same email request on two different email accounts within
30 minutes of one another:
Looks just like an eBay request to click a button and pay now for an
auction, except it refers to non-existent auctions! I find this interesting
as it requests payment in euros and I have just
I would first ask him how he landed in such as mess and whether he
understands the contractual legalities of an auction. If he is apologetic I
would let him off the hook. If not, burn his toes on the fire! :=) I
think its a matter of whether he understands the process and whether it is a
Mt. San Antonio College has a maximum budget of $500.00 available for the
purchase of a Campo or Canyoun Diablo meteorite to be used in classroom
hands-on activities. It needs to be a nice representation of an iron
meteorite, i.e. not just a junk piece. The minimum weight should be 8
pounds.
If
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From: R. N. Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:00 AM
Subject: AD: Micro-membrane boxes on eBay start at ~5 cents ea. (in 24 pak)
Hello List:
Because of recent discussion on the list regarding our
and will add
auctions periodically for a bit longer. (Some collectors have made some
very good deals for themselves so far.)
Happy bidding!
Thanks,
Ron
R. N. Hartman, Inc.
www.membranebox.com
(First ad in the last year!)
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I received one of the typical Nigerian spam messages today
( wanting to place an order by cc.) but though this one was
particularily interesting because of who it was directed to.
It would be interesting to try to trace the origin of one like
this in particular due
As I have not seen this posted yet, I will send this warning along.
It appears as if you are getting a message from an eBay member re: an
auction #6436472319. The sender wants a reply and the message form looks
quite real. In fact, it is an ebay message reply template. It may state
that they
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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: membrane boxes; one-time only ebay sale
Hi Ron,
I was wondering (perhaps this might be good idea if you don't do it all
ready), if you sell assorted membrane boxes. Since I
ONE TIME ONLY SALE ON EBAY: 5 paks listed today. Only 3 left.
ebay #6609377796 48 pak MICRO MEMBRANE BOXES for micro meteorite
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They wonder how many new finds they'll get access to before the space
rocks
are sliced into collectible fragments and disappear into private
collectionsThis is something that has always bothered me.
That goes for any rare meteorite, or even a nice common one. But if the
museums and researchers
Goran wrote: And I still think that ferric chloride for etching is bad
In the first place, the ferric chloride is in proximity to the meteorite for
only a few seconds, at most, in the proper solution, not as a dry crystal,
and if you follow the directions given previously (over the years) you
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are now including in their ads
that the membrane boxes are good for meteorites, although I suspect that
most couldn't recognize a meteorite if they tripped on it!
I will be pleased to respond to any questions or comments.
RON
R. N. HARTMAN, Inc.
METEORITES AND ACCESSORIES
MEMBRANE SUSPENSION BOXES
, taxes, and on and on.
Ron Hartman
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From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Comments re: membrane boxes from Ron
Certainly yes from Ron Hartman
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From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Harvey Awards - New Catagory
Dear List Members,
Looks
OPINION:
This has traditionally, for as long as I have been collecting, and that is
for 50+ years, the one largest or primary piece has been the main mass.
More usually, there had been a loose understanding that the main mass
usually referred to a very large meteorite where there was one
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I would suggest we send 500 emails to these people with some well-chosen
suggestions, and I also hope they have been reported to the Tucson BBB as
well.
If it were me, I would make noises to the local CofC suggesting these kinds
of businesses be run out of town. If enough people bothered to
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Do we know the dates yet for the Tucson show, especially the Michael Blood
auction
Thank You,
Ron
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