Re: [meteorite-list] Craterfield in the SE part of the Egyptian Desert

2004-10-08 Thread j . divelbiss
Thanx Bernd, Sounds like a Sikhote Alin strewnfield with lots of small craters. I'm always amazed at those who speak/read/write more than one language. I can barely handle english by itself. Living here in Reading, PA we have a large population of hipsanic folks, and on more than one

Re: [meteorite-list] campo sales update/10/08/2004

2004-10-08 Thread j . divelbiss
let's see...we've had 12 Campos Sales messages for 12 stones sold with 15 pieces left to sell. That probably means we'll have about 15 more messages to go on this subject...if we're lucky. Sold, John PS I really don't expect you to stop Steve, so go right ahead and abuse the list like

Re: [meteorite-list] Treasure, tales of space booty

2004-10-05 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam, That must have been one COLD swimming hole to cause all those rings to fall off fingers, and shorts with money in them to fall off waists. Now we can see where the fortune started. :) John -- Original message from Adam Hupe : -- Dear List Members,

[meteorite-list] thread recycling

2004-10-01 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all, The following is only an observation and not an accusation, concern or even a problem for me. I've been on the list about three years now and we seem to recycle certain subjects over and over again. Some of these are listed below and seem to pop up more often than most. shipping

[meteorite-list] primitive Ureilite ?

2004-09-28 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all, I was reading one of Adam's auctions this morning and noticed the word primitive attached to the word Ureilite and began to wonder what was the latest status on Ureilites being considered primitive. I know the word is used with primitive materials like Acapulcoites and Lodranites

RE: [meteorite-list] primitive Ureilite ?

2004-09-28 Thread j . divelbiss
Matt, For some reason I never thought of a Ureilite as primitive per say. Maybe it is just me. :) Exposing ignorance is a way of life for some...like myself. Thanx, John -- Original message from Matt Morgan : -- John: I am sure Adam will have something to add

Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Ureilites

2004-09-28 Thread j . divelbiss
Thanx Bernd, Adam and Matt, Now that I'm home from work I can look up some references for my own sanity. First off, I couldn't recall that Ureilites were described as primitive, which only confirms I have a bad memory. According to McSween's book, Meteorites and Their Parent Planets, the list

Re: [meteorite-list] NPA 12-07-1927 Homestead Meteorite Article

2004-09-25 Thread j . divelbiss
Mark, thanx for your efforts with finding these articles. That story and the conjured up images of the Homestead meteorite seems a lot like the experience I wish for every night when I'm out back with the dog. This conscious dream seems to always end up with me having to cover my head from the

RE: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - September25, 2004

2004-09-25 Thread j . divelbiss
What name should we ask for when we email this address? :) -- Original message from McomeMeteorite Meteorite : -- I have the unique 2 slices available in the all world of the NWA 1554 L/H4 Chondrite, email me for prices and photos [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Matt

Re: [meteorite-list] Tanezrouft 062 and lack of NWA coordinates

2004-09-24 Thread j . divelbiss
Well put Bernd, I have a simpler approach to my feelings about meteorite documentation, history, classification or not, etc., and that is that all meteorites are from outer space, and their time and associated pedigree here on earth is of minor relevance when compared to their universal

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Matteo...And the letter from The Wiz

2004-09-21 Thread j . divelbiss
Jerry, I'd be willing to participate in this investigation if Mexico Doug could send me some his buttons ahead of time to help open my mind to the level necessary to solve these issues with the said company present. Otherwise I wouldn't relate too well. JD PS: So that's why Doug lives in

Re: [meteorite-list] metal-rich diogenite vs mesosiderite-C

2004-09-17 Thread j . divelbiss
Joern and David, In my first inquiry this week I mentioned NWA 1882 (not 1982 that Joern and David touched on) as being the same material. It is my belief that NWA 1882 is the same material as NWA 1827/1879. Stefan Ralew, who sold 1882 to me, also believes it to be the same. NWA 1882 was not

[meteorite-list] metal-rich diogenite vs mesosiderite-C

2004-09-15 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all, I see there is an Ebay auction today for a metal-rich diogenite for about $30/g. I thought with the last go around with NWA 1827, 1879 and 1882 that a metal rich diogenite did not exist and that these were all classified as MES-C's that sell for about $10 to $25/g, depending on the

Re: [meteorite-list] metal-rich diogenite vs mesosiderite-C

2004-09-15 Thread j . divelbiss
David, Thanx for responding and the information provided on this material. Since you have both types, how do you see them in comparison? Thanx in advance, John -- Original message from David Weir : -- John, According to the scientists at NAU (Wittke, Bunch),

Re: [meteorite-list] metal-rich diogenite vs mesosiderite-C

2004-09-15 Thread j . divelbiss
works for me through ATT. BTW...it has good stuff including some of yours Mike. JD -- Original message from Michael Farmer : -- Why do none of the photos come up? Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: David Weir To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday,

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER

2004-09-12 Thread j . divelbiss
Bernhard, a picture is worth a thousand words. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268374511 JD -- Original message from Bernhard Rems : -- Steve, you have been using the term double cut several times now. Could you explain what it

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: September 11, 2001 [OT]

2004-09-12 Thread j . divelbiss
Geoff, Bernd, Mark and others, The messages and pictures were very moving indeed. I still have a hard time believing people are that sick, and so committed to hurting the innocent. While these fanatics may not agree with the acts of governments, they do not have the God given right to kill

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Sale with Collection thrown in for FREE!!!!

2004-09-10 Thread j . divelbiss
John, I can beat that deal. I'll give you the rest of my meteorite collection (300 plus awesome pieces) for FREE if you buy my 6 kilo NWA (possibly paired with NWA 869, 787, 900, 905, etc) for a measly $50,000. Shipping is also FREE. Beat that offering big guy. JD PS This FREE portion of

[meteorite-list] An awesome meteorite in all it's Glory(ieta)

2004-09-03 Thread j . divelbiss
for those who have not seen this Ebay offering from the Kilgores...take a look at the beautiful Glorieta Mountain specimen in the auction below. WOW !, JD http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2267355844rd=1 __

Re: [meteorite-list] Annual Persidious Shower

2004-08-30 Thread j . divelbiss
That P-rapin sure reads like a Daffy Duck monologue. You need to put the ssppit on your P's while doing it like Daffy. Looney Tunes John -- Original message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Hi Dave Persidious Freeman All, Don't want to go into too much detail here

Re: [meteorite-list] Beer 'n' meteorites

2004-08-28 Thread j . divelbiss
I can see it now, NWA869-lite commercials about the special ingredients that pass through many hands. Picture the rocks going from a the sands of the desert, to a nomad, to a Moroccan broker, to Dean, to 600 plus list members, to the world, and now to become the feature ingredient in your

RE: [meteorite-list] Are Meteorites For Boys Only?

2004-08-26 Thread j . divelbiss
Maria Maria of lunar origin, I must say you have a very rocky resume.:) Glad to have you as a comrade. Regards, Gabbro John PS I need you to talk to my wife about rocks, and their place in our lives. -- Original message from Maria Haas : -- Dear Hunters

Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Mercurian origin of NWA 011

2004-08-19 Thread j . divelbiss
Bernd, Thanx for the response in clearing up density as a possible factor(or not) for Mercurian origin of NWA 011. Dr Rubin has been kind enough to straighten me out in the past too. Resources like Rubin, Matson, Weir, Verish, Pauli and others are quite valuable to us all on this list. Your

Re: [meteorite-list] 60X image of NWA 011

2004-08-18 Thread j . divelbiss
It is just a granite?...shouldn't have bid on it. I'll pay if I have to. herman-75...current high bidder and righteous ebayer :) -- Original message from Adam Hupe : -- Dear Stan and List, NWA 011 is still causing debate in regards to its origin. I personally

Re: [meteorite-list] 60X image of NWA 011

2004-08-18 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam and others, Correction: I DO NOT think NWA 011 is a granite. Nor does anyone I know. NWA 011 is mysterical meteorite material that I think many people will covet during this auction...especially basalt collectors wanting a piece of significance like this one. No, folks NWA 011 is NOT

Re: [meteorite-list] Mercurian origin of NWA 011

2004-08-18 Thread j . divelbiss
Bernd and others, Help me out here...I thought mean density(of 5 or so) meant that the average for the body included the core. And that Earth was about 5 also with the surface around 3 and the core around 7 or 8with a lot of 5 rocks in between. Our basalts are also in the 3.3 range are

Re: [meteorite-list] Pelted Planet Pulls Pfake Product

2004-08-17 Thread j . divelbiss
Now for the toughest test of all..Perfectly Pronounce Pelted Planet Pulls Pfake Product 3-times fast without screwing up...or suffer the consequences !! Take your pick for a reason for the auction pppull... BIZARRE is trendy ! par for the course ! changed medicine ? head hit

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Found in California?

2004-08-03 Thread j . divelbiss
I believe this is the same rock that we decided last month was a piece of slag. JD http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2004-July/142616.html -- Original message from Ron Baalke : -- http://www.dailybreeze.com/content/news/3194068.html Meteor,

Re: [meteorite-list] Zinder Pallasite

2004-08-03 Thread j . divelbiss
rob, Jeff has it listed on his site. Maybe he can give you more info. http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/class-stonyirons-m.html JD -- Original message from Rob Wesel : -- Hello all- I am trying to track down information on a pallasite named Zinder. Outside of

Re: [meteorite-list] Doing the right thing

2004-07-30 Thread j . divelbiss
I wonder if we will all get to read another 1000 word, non-sensical rebuttal from Mr. Sudbury that this trash was not being sold as a meteorite? It may either be to one of the lists, or in the next Ebay listing about how he never really said it was a meteorite. An apology would be more

Re: [meteorite-list] Images of DAG700 vesicles

2004-07-29 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam and others, Cool pics of a very interesting meteorite. In short, Stan T(before) and Adam have asked how do vesicles occur in a deeper forming magmas? I think the inference is that fast cooling magmas from sources like volcanos are the typical source for vesicles in smaller crystalline

Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia Area Meteorite Photos, Article

2004-07-28 Thread j . divelbiss
Geoff and others, Great stuff...what meteorite legends are made of. In this case...in Arizona, which is great. I/we can't wait for the new issue of Meteorite. I always enjoy your writing...especially in April. :) Regards, John PS.It is partly cloudy today and about 80 F here in PA...the

Re: [meteorite-list] J.B.BIOT

2004-07-26 Thread j . divelbiss
So I need a language converter to understand these messages? Silly me. Gomez Adams couldn't understand French either...but it sure worked to make him frisky when Mortisha spoke it. Later, Pepe Le Pue (sp?) PS Sorry for the stinky humor from an ignorant American. I just can't help myself.

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite givaway, #11

2004-07-24 Thread j . divelbiss
You are not being realistic John, settle for a large Imilac slice instead. Good taste without being too greedy is more becoming for a young collector like yourself. JD -- Original message from John K. Gwilliam : -- Steve, I like the idea of your meteorite give

Re: [meteorite-list] nwa 1109

2004-07-22 Thread j . divelbiss
-- Original message from Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! : -- Hello list.Is NWA 1109 A howardite or a eucrite?Please let me know.I just want to know for shure. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website

Re: [meteorite-list] nwa 1109

2004-07-22 Thread j . divelbiss
1109 must shirley be considered a Ukright by now. No jest. :) -- Original message from Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! : -- Hello list.Is NWA 1109 A howardite or a eucrite?Please let me know.I just want to know for shure. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL,

Re: [meteorite-list] Where Were You When It Happened 35 Years Ago.?

2004-07-21 Thread j . divelbiss
Paul, Robert and others, Watching the landing and subsequent ladder walk by Neil Armstrong as an impressionable 11 year old was quite exciting for me, my parents and two brothers. Our family having an enormous 20 some inch color TV console was a big deal at the time...but the images of this

Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Winslow St., Diana Kasco (Homeowner) Letter

2004-07-19 Thread j . divelbiss
Eric, I too am a rock collecting addict with little hope in sight for change. I'm there for you man...I often take my lunch breaks on the local mountain...walking up and down the hill picking up/hauling off more cool rocks than I had yesterday. My wife has recently ordered me to rid myself of

[meteorite-list] new filter...are messages getting thru?

2004-07-18 Thread j . divelbiss
this is just a test to see if messages are getting thru...it was sent using plain text instead of html JD __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Rates

2004-06-16 Thread j . divelbiss
Take your pick, random rate ? coincident that earth runs into the path of errant rocks in space! chaos...meaning no pattern at all ? happenstance (slang of course) ...sh_t happenscyclic ? (based on what?) or steady rate/average of falling material...just inconsistent witnessing and followup

[meteorite-list] supposed ET articact!!!

2004-06-05 Thread j . divelbiss
Can't argue with the claims for this stunning item for sale. Maybe someone should try totrade a 1/2 kilo of moon rock for it. Its' beauty and indestructibilitymakes it most desriable. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2247381778rd=1

Re: [meteorite-list] ad - meteorites for sale on Ebay by E.T.

2004-05-31 Thread j . divelbiss
are the repercussions of this announcement anything like the movie The Day After Tomorrow? First it was ET on the list...now ET on Ebay. I feel a chill in the air... Welcome...I look forward to your offerings ET. All the best, Gabbro John from PA herman-75 on Ebay Hello all you

Re: [meteorite-list] Polymict EUC vs. HOW - NWA1109 ? ( polymict diogenites -NWA 1648)

2004-05-26 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam, I have a question along the same lines related to NWA 1648. Could you summarize the differences between a polymict diogenite (like NWA 1648) and howardites? Does a polymict diogenite have more (or just more varied) diogenite in them than the typical howardite? I just got a thin section

Re: [meteorite-list] Polymict EUC vs. HOW - NWA1109 ? ( polymict diogenites -NWA 1648)

2004-05-26 Thread j . divelbiss
Thanx Adam...NWA 1648 is a very nice meteorite. Like I said, it(nwa 1648) does not have the look of a eucrite in thin section which would also suggest it is not close to a typical transitional Howardite of 10 to 20% diogenite...as I understand things {ie. limited knowledge for sure :) } Jeff's

Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote Photo

2004-05-25 Thread j . divelbiss
very cool Geoff...as always you find a way create art out of meteorites. As Mr. Fernlea would say: A picture paints a thousand words.. ..a sample paints a thousand pictures Nice work, John Dear Listees: Greetings all. I thought I'd share a new photo of a

Re: [meteorite-list] From my kitchen...

2004-05-24 Thread j . divelbiss
Martin, Sir Divelbiss? I don't know anyone with the name Divelbiss who answers to Sir. Must be another Gabbro loving wacko. That reminds of the Three Stooges when someone says to them Gentlemen, and the three of them look around the room and ask Who came in?. Watch your lettuce laced

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Moon Rock Stolen in Malta

2004-05-23 Thread j . divelbiss
Bob, You said: I'll bet you my next year's personal earnings that it will fetch FAR more than a measly $5 million. I say: Don't tell me...you don't work and live off your partner's earnings? First off I did not say the raisin rock from Malta was a meteorite...I was just comparing the price

Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Rock Stolen in Malta

2004-05-21 Thread j . divelbiss
$5 million in US dollars for a raisin size moon rock? That seems a bit inflated...even for a piece picked up on the moon. Otherwise we have had some pretty good deals lately for less than a $1,000/g. Maybe I need to buy some more? John Reactions to the theft of the moon

Re: [meteorite-list] mafic igneous rocks

2004-05-19 Thread j . divelbiss
Bill, I'm sure the mineral magnetite is your source of paramagmatism. Igneous rocks are often magnetite rich. Iron would also be in many other minerals...but magnetite is likely your source of attracting a magnet(paramagnetism). JD Hi all, I understand that mafic igneous rocks contain

Re: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Bensour, Zag Questions

2004-04-18 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam and others, After trading several emails with Bernd and looking very carefully(and often) at my nice pieces of Amgala and Zag, I've concluded that the Amgala individual I have is different than my nice Zag pieces. As Bernd would tell you, the pictures I have of the two in comparison are

Re: [meteorite-list] Main mass of Oum Dreyga (Amgala) recovered !

2004-04-16 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello All, Last month I reported on my first take of the Amgala individual I got from the Hupe's that when cut sure looked like Zag to me. It being a small individual of about 20 g, it is not easy to see a lot of detail in a end cut of 2g...so I'm still not sure what I have. The piece of

Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar trip on ebay

2004-04-10 Thread j . divelbiss
Zero feedback What guarantees do I have that they will actually hit the moon?? I wouldn't trust-em with my $6 million until they prove they can do it a few times. Amateurs...sheesh! JD This auction is apparantly legit and will actually fly to the moon: Ebay lot #3808751242

[meteorite-list] Frozen Meteorite Finds...MUST READ !

2004-04-01 Thread j . divelbiss
Dear List, I've always been fascinated with the concept that rocks in space are usually in a frozen condition when in their natural state in space. For the most part that changes when they fall to Earth and become meteorites. That is ...while they are in space they are often frozen due to

[meteorite-list] Time to Lighten Up Guys

2004-03-27 Thread j . divelbiss
This is the Meteorite Central List...not Jerry Springer. The spats and attacks of this week are worthy of a couple no-holds bar cage enclosed wrestling matches. Some of the matches would have been quite fun to watch. Sheesh, there sure was a bunch of nonsensical banter going on. LetÂ’s hope a

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Weekly Rare Material (Pseudotachylite)

2004-03-23 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam, Does this material attract to a magnet? Being an H, I suppose it does...but maybe not. John Dear List Members, We would like to introduce NWA 2058 an extremely odd meteorite called a plain H with no subclass. It is also known in the scientific circles as a Psuedotachylite. Through

Re: [meteorite-list] Hyphens / Slashes

2004-03-19 Thread j . divelbiss
Bernd. Dave, Joern and others, Bernd, thanx for the previously submitted info from Jeff on slashes and dashes. That should certainly clear it up the confusion, right Dave. :) John BTW: Joern...in all seriousness I really appreciate you responding to this thread. For chondrite groups,

Re: [meteorite-list] new NWA meteorite pieces forsale

2004-03-18 Thread j . divelbiss
Probably just a math error. $5 a gram must have been the intent. Anybody have a url for an online calculator? :) If not, it must be the greatest H5 of all time to go for $50/gram...yikes!! Very inexpensively confused, John Good day Steve and All, The link to the website with the new NWA

Re: AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag

2004-03-18 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam and others, What do we know about H/L's beyond what Joern said? Bernd...you gave us some thought on the H/L NWA 1955. You seemed very intrigued by what you saw. Any comments. If you ever saw Haxtun in thin section...it is very strange indeed. To me it is one of the coolest(as in awesome)

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Amgala, Tsarev and Zag

2004-03-16 Thread j . divelbiss
Joern, Thanx for the clarification on regolith versus the basic breccia types. As far as chondrites go...is a genomict breccia with a regolith history like Zag more or less unusual when compared to a polymict breccia for chondrites, as in the supposed case for Amgala? I ask this since you did

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites in jamaica

2004-03-15 Thread j . divelbiss
To all List Members: The Meteorites A to Z, 2nd edition is a great tool to have. An even more important tool to help use it is to know your ABC's. As a dedicated list member trying to improve the meteorite world for all, I have provided an important website url that will help the challenged.

Re: [meteorite-list] Amgala versus Zag

2004-03-14 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam, Thanx for the update and supporting information for the cost basis. As I said, this fall sure looks a lot like Zag to me in many ways. I did some more visual comparisons and of course my untrained eye cannot see these differences when looking at just one one stone's(less than 20 grams)

[meteorite-list] Amgala versus Zag

2004-03-13 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello All, Yesterday I received a small individual of Amgala from the Hupes that was probably an individual broken in half. While most of the piece has a beautiful black crust, the broken face was quite oxidized, so I decided to cut that end off today to see the inside. As stated by Mike and

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Rovers See Earth, Moon and Stars

2004-03-11 Thread j . divelbiss
Ron and others: I have to agree with Mark Ford in that the news briefs coming out of these NASA announcements about the rover status (and the music played to each one) tells us almost nothing about what they are finding up there. Is the information somewhere else on the net that we can go and

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3099 (L/LL3) and why not 3.X ???

2004-03-09 Thread j . divelbiss
Jeff, Bernd and others: Great stuff guys, especially the pictures of these great unequilibrated stones. Will we ever understand how these anomalies ever happened...probably not. But it is sure is worth trying. Questions: I've often wondered why some of these stones are not evaluated further

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3099 (L/LL3) and why not 3.X ???

2004-03-09 Thread j . divelbiss
Jeff, Tom, Adam and others: Thanx for the explanations for my question about the petrologic extensions to the grade 3 subtype. I've always wondered how it happens...I guess I now know how it can be done...just not the reasons to do it or not to do it for any particular meteorite name/number.

RE: [meteorite-list] Former Astronaut Glenn Criticizes Chimp Space Plan

2004-03-05 Thread j . divelbiss
John, Randy and others, I too am not a big fan of politics on the list but in this case we have an opinion from someone, John Glenn, who feels the proposed program for NASA is off based. He offers up good questions. 1. Should we limit funds for important research that is already in the works?

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: In memoriam T.K. Mayeda

2004-03-04 Thread j . divelbiss
Thank you Tom for passing this on...a refreshing note of interest isn't it. Glad to know Bernd is still lurking out there looking to assist. I'd love to read some of these articles...being that they were written by someone who was very important to the development/improvement of meteoritics.

[meteorite-list] IMCA benefit auction for Mars look-a-like rocks

2004-03-04 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello All, I wanted to update the list with the outcome of the Mars look-a-like auction held last week. I think it had some impact on the whole issue of the Mars imposter auctions on ebay. The number of bids pushed by you guys was 77 and the total hits for the auction review itself was close

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: In memoriam T.K. Mayeda

2004-03-04 Thread j . divelbiss
SHE should be remembered(not he)...as in T. K. Mayeda. Oops, JD Thank you Tom for passing this on...a refreshing note of interest isn't it. Glad to know Bernd is still lurking out there looking to assist. I'd love to read some of these articles...being that they were written by someone

[meteorite-list] ebay auction add - Delete if you like

2004-02-27 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all, I have a few auctions finishing up tomorrow including the IMCA benefit auction for This is NOT a DAG 476 meteorite. I'll also throw some more material into the box for this one including some magnetite rich pieces that are great meteorwrongs for show and tell. Also, two of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Help me solve a mystery - NWA mystery

2004-02-26 Thread j . divelbiss
Bernhard, Adam and others: I saw this stone, and a hundred or more like it in Edwin Thompson's room at the Inn Suites. To me they looked like water worn stones also, most were noticeably paramagnetic with the exception of some that were less...like the one you got from Steve. I saw this

Re: [meteorite-list] Conservation of Meteorites

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Martin and others, From that paper I see the use of Class 10 cleanrooms is becoming the state of the art for bringing in future samples. That is a lot of clean air which should help keep these samples pristine...so as the people involved follow protocol. As for the future retrieval of Mars

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam and others, It is the same igneous rock he was slicing and calling DAG 476. It is basalt or gabbrothe green look to it maybe olivne but more likely epidote. What was the name of that character that Art has banned in the past...not Matteo..before him. This is starting to have the

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
44 bids in one hour...not a bad start. Can I bid on my own stuff?...they look almost too good to sell. Maybe they are from out there and were transported down with the that new Slag that was made on Mars? JD PS Thanx for the push Adam. I've been tempted to do this all week. Everyone should

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Michael, I still can't tell if you got it or not. I made a listing that spoofs the other one. And, yes I say they are from earth...not Mars. See below for mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2227754521 Contact me if you are still cornfused. Regards, Mr. Smartyrocks Dear

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - unusual and rare meteorites from NWA

2004-02-20 Thread j . divelbiss
Stefan and list members, Stefan offered us NWA 3099 (L/LL3) last week that to me looked like the same material Blaine Reed was selling in Tucson. So I made the comparison and thought Blaine should know this. Well, after trading pictures and messages with Stefan I believe I can now say I was

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - unusual and rare meteorites from NWA

2004-02-20 Thread j . divelbiss
Howard, These subjects are worthy of discussion...though in the case of NWA 3099 I think it is unlikely they are from the same fall. Stefan tells me 3099 had a nice shiny black crust with flow lines, etc. while Blaine's piece showed no signs of crust that I can remember. Even when he pulled

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - unusual and rare meteorites from NWA

2004-02-20 Thread j . divelbiss
Gregory, No number that I know of...others had this material for sale also. Must be a nice amount being found. I didn't forget to get some. ;) And I will have some for sale. I have a few small slices that I was going to put of ebay, but give me a note if you want one before hand. I can send

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - unusual and rare meteorites from NWA

2004-02-20 Thread j . divelbiss
Hey...I thought you were my friend Stan? Is youis callin me stuperd? Well, I really resemble that comment. :) JD I can't believe it either. These subjects are worthy of discussion...though in the case of NWA 3099 I think it is unlikely they are from the same fall. Stefan tells me 3099

Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Happy birthday Paragould!

2004-02-19 Thread j . divelbiss
In 1998 both Zag(H3-6) and Monahans(H5) fell that have the blue halite crystals in them that turned a blue-purple color from UV radiation in space. In these crystals were small bits of brine(salt) water. JD Wow Christian.. It is a beauty. Do those blue inclusions contain water? There was

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show and First Impressions

2004-02-14 Thread j . divelbiss
Additional comments and corrections to my list. Washington Rob is actually Oregon Rob Gujba Eric should be Gubja Erich I think Maria Maria should actually be Marie Marie (Nelson) Lazer Stan can also be Laser Stan...will answer to both. Eucrite Shultz is correct...once went by Carbonaceous Shultz

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - unusual and rare meteorites from NWA

2004-02-12 Thread j . divelbiss
Stefan, Great stuff...I believe this material was for sale from Blaine Reed at Tucson as an unclassified chondrite with the potential to be an LL3. I think Blaine was going to follow through with it's classification. Someone should contact him and let him know that this classified material

Re: [meteorite-list] Doubtful DaG476 on ebay..

2004-02-11 Thread j . divelbiss
Martin and others, As you all can see, this is not a huge slice of DaG 476. It looks more like a porophyritic basalt from earth of course. It is not a Mars shergottite, nor an earthly gabbro. Based on the size of the piece when compared to the dime, it is about 4 cm x 3 cm...which would make

[meteorite-list] Specific Gravity method /calculation error

2004-02-03 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman and others, I guess I really am slow/dumb. your SG answers maybe too small right now... Well if you haven't blown anything up...I'm lucky. My calculation has an error in it from the other day. In the volume part of the equation I left out the division by 4 when using the diameter for

Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?

2004-02-01 Thread j . divelbiss
Habibi and friends in NWA, As a simple collector of meteorites with a lot of NWA material in my collection, I want to say some things that support your efforts and livelihood. First off, do not let the off-based comments of a few jealous dealers upset the trust and good business practices you

RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?

2004-01-31 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman, Well, let's see, I have spent a lot of time wandering the hills and fields looking at every strange rock I see. Some I try to pick up and look at, turn them over and look at their bottoms and other places. Oh no it's worse than I thought...some I even take home and, I can't take say it,

RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?

2004-01-30 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman and others, Specific gravity...we've all seen the picture of weighing a specimen out of water and then in water to come up with specific gravity. You need a scale that can hang the object you are weighing in the water. I don't remember the method details but the answer is usually stated

Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Unique Offer - Nevada CO3

2004-01-30 Thread j . divelbiss
Bob, I'm sure there are many who appreciate this opportunity to acquire Nevada meteorites found by your team...especially from you personally. This novel approach and the quality of recent finds will give many of us hope for a positive future for Nevada meteorite collecting. Best regards,

Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic

2004-01-29 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman, I searched out a couple meteorites for representative R and EH for comparison. Take a look...these are on Eric Olsen's site. R 2+g slice http://www.star-bits.com/listphotos/nwa753wt4-74a.JPG EH 1.5 g slice http://www.star-bits.com/listphotos/EH3wt1-89a.JPG It doesnt clear it up, but

Re: [meteorite-list] Another nice pic!

2004-01-29 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman, looks like that meteorite has a goiter...poor guy, maybe you could lance it off for him. JD __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic

2004-01-28 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman, What is the paramagnetic response to a strong magnet? If next to nothing then it is a good chance of being an R (or LL)...if a little stronger then EL(or L), if noticebly strong then EH (or H). The feerless guesser, John Roman, Could be an R...but looks more like an EH or even EL.

Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic

2004-01-28 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman, I have an EH thin section and the chondrules are quite small, and I just checked the Cambridge Encyclopedia and on page 115 it states the same thing that the chondrules in EH's are small. The lack of metal would a combination of weathering and the fact that EH's have quite a bit of iron

RE: [meteorite-list] Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit

2004-01-24 Thread j . divelbiss
Greg, Thanx for the personal update on the Spirit's position/status. Let's hope JPL and others can get things back in working order over the next month. I, like all of you was really looking forward to these early geological results. I'm sure there is a lot of aching hearts out there right

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Recovered from Jan 4th Bolide over Iberia(Spain)

2004-01-24 Thread j . divelbiss
Elton, Thanx for news. I looked over Norbert's article he provided the other day and I saw a reference in it to 6 percent nickel...which would make this fall an L or LL chondrite, that is if the article written in Spanish was talking about those particular pieces. I don't read/speak Spanish

Re: [meteorite-list] Images of Some New Stones

2004-01-24 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam, Great pictures of the CV3...congratulations. I look forward to seeing it in person. I'm assuming the dike flow piece is terrestrial, and not a meteorite. Very cool...since I am a big fan of such material. John Dear List Members, We have received a couple of emails in regards to

Re: [meteorite-list] ESA discovers water on mars

2004-01-23 Thread j . divelbiss
Howard and fellow Tucson attendees, Glad to hear you might be going to Tucson Howard. I too have decided NOT TO STAY home wondering what everyone is doing out there that week, so I will be there for the festivities for the first time(5th to 8th). Take it easy on me guys...me being a PA

Re: [meteorite-list] Russell's meteorites - presentation

2004-01-23 Thread j . divelbiss
Stuart, Thanx for the wonderful story about Russell. Mental health as it relates to physical health for all of us is such a monumental aspect for good living. All contributors to the venture should be very proud. I was not one, and wish I had sent something. Maybe another chance will come

Re: [meteorite-list] Rover Team Readies For Second Landing While Trying to Mend Spirit

2004-01-23 Thread j . divelbiss
Ron, Do you know if the rover was still parked in front of the Adirondack named rock? I was just curious where it was and what was it doing. Someone mentioned a rumor was that it drove into a soft spot. I thought it was parked by the rock. John MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION

[meteorite-list] pictures of Mars lookalike rocks from PA

2004-01-21 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all, I've posted a couple pictures of some of my rocks from PA on the World of Meteorites site that make me think of what Mars rocks might look like. I've included the dark metadiabase(a gabbro) that I commented on the other day that I think looks like the stuff we are seeing in the

Re: [meteorite-list] pictures of Mars lookalike rocks from PA

2004-01-21 Thread j . divelbiss
looks like you can't go to the page directly. If you are a member of the site...then take a look at the meteorwrong page to see these cool rocks. John Hello all, I've posted a couple pictures of some of my rocks from PA on the World of Meteorites site that make me think of what Mars rocks

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