Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-26 Thread Jeff Kuyken
=7M8LQ7_hWtE Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:21:58 -0700, you wrote: How many

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusted meteoroids

2009-03-26 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I suppose that when we start to get decent IR images, this will be used to explain the dark comets, i.l. the dead comet fragments. Rationalizations work in strange ways E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __

[meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
A week or so ago I asked a question about what a meteoroid would look like floating through space. More specifically I wanted to know what color a meteoroid might be before it actually hit Earth. Here's another question. How many beautifully black and fully fusion crusted meteoroids and

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread GeoZay
How many beautifully black and fully fusion crusted meteoroids and asteroids are floating around out there in space? My guess is that there may be a lot of black meteoroids floating around in space, but very few that are fusion crusted. To be fusion crusted, I would imagine there would be

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread lebofsky
Hi Eric: A quick response to this: 1. Black, yes. Many asteroids are dark (reflect less than 10% of the light that reaches them). This may be due to shock (black chondrites) or due to the presence of carbon as in the carbonaceous chondrites (or comets for that matter). 2. However, to the best

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:21 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids A week or so ago I asked a question about what a meteoroid would look like floating through space. More specifically I wanted to know what color a meteoroid might

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:21:58 -0700, you wrote: How many beautifully black and fully fusion crusted meteoroids and asteroids are floating around out there in space? A fusion crust is formed by the rapid melting and rapid resolidifying of the meteoroid, caused by heat generated by a meteoroid

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
Hmmm... ;) lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu wrote: Hi Eric: A quick response to this: 1. Black, yes. Many asteroids are dark (reflect less than 10% of the light that reaches them). This may be due to shock (black chondrites) or due to the presence of carbon as in the carbonaceous chondrites (or

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorite-Recon.com
Space weathering due to impingement by micrometeoroids and solar wind particles is another important factor modifying an asteroid's reflectance spectrum. In many cases more recent impacts on asteoids appear brighter than weathered portions. Svend www.meteorite-recon.com Hmmm... ;)

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
would not have a fusion crust. - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Sean T. Murray s...@bellsouth.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids Is that your

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
Think of what causes fusion crust... geo...@aol.com wrote: How many beautifully black and fully fusion crusted meteoroids and asteroids are floating around out there in space? My guess is that there may be a lot of black meteoroids floating around in space, but very few that are

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
Yup it would be a guess, but doesn't science make guesses (hypotheses) based on data and knowledge gained from data? Having said that, I think it's safe to say there's more to it than meets the eye. Would you like to take a guess? Not that I know the answer ( I do not ). I'm simply provoking

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
sooner or later on the list :) - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Sean T. Murray s...@bellsouth.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids How about millions

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:40:55 -0700, you wrote: Yup it would be a guess, but doesn't science make guesses (hypotheses) based on data and knowledge gained from data? You can make wild guesses, but when you aren't even sure of the order of magnitude of the factors in the equation and have no easy

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread GeoZay
I have thought what causes a fusion crust, but to be brief, I didn't explain the obvious process of entry into an atmosphere and back out. To me, this skipping out of the atmosphere is a relatively rare event. Most of anything that enters the atmosphere in the first place burns up in the

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
Anyone remember this one? ;) THE GREAT DAYLIGHT FIREBALL OF 1972 This grazing of our atmosphere would cause fusion crust. This means that the Great Fireball is a meteoroid with fusion crust. Over Jackson Wyoming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5EztnIdHc Over Canada:

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids Anyone remember this one? ;) THE GREAT DAYLIGHT FIREBALL OF 1972 This grazing of our atmosphere would cause fusion crust. This means that the Great Fireball is a meteoroid

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
Good points on the production and destruction rates. Do we know how many meteoroids crash into the Sun or other planets? The moon is a good example to look for a number of impacting meteoroids, but it doesn't say how many will graze any given planet though. Unless of course you're able to

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread cdtucson
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272212,00.html Eric thank you. This is a point I tried to make a week or so ago. Someone commented that there is a lot of guessing??? That is the understatement of the year. Most of our scientific knowledge in this hobby is based on Guesses. We simply have

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
I agree with you, but isn't that assuming that all things are equal across the globe? They are not... Humans experience fieballs and meteors based on what? Witnessing an event. How much land area do humans actually occupy in relation to unpopulated areas, oceans, seas, lakes, and other large

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Mr EMan
of the most mistaken concepts in our hobby so time for another treatise on fusion crust. But not now... Elton --- On Wed, 3/25/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids To: meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:39:27 -0700, you wrote: Further when you look up into space there are a gazzillion sources of crust producing bodies. No, there are not. There is a very small number, definable as the number of planets and moons with an appreciable atmosphere. Are you suggesting that

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Meteorites USA
Not to sound silly or anything, but there are meteorites with NO fusion crust? Assuming of course you're not talking about very weathered specimens, are you telling me there are freshly fallen meteorites that have NO fusion crust at all? How is that possible? I can see a weathered stone or

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids Good points on the production and destruction rates. Do we know how many

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
- Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272212,00.html Eric thank you

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
...@meteoritesusa.com To: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids I agree with you, but isn't that assuming that all things are equal across the globe? They are not... Humans experience

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread cdtucson
- Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272212,00.html Eric

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:49:25 -0700, you wrote: THERE YOU GO AGAIN RAMBLEING WITH YOUR WORTHLESS AND SARCASTIC INFORMATION. I am well aware that you are far beyond help-- I reply to your rants only to provide information for people who are willing to learn. OTHER PLANETS NOT STARS. YOU SIMPLY

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids

2009-03-25 Thread Chris Peterson
* Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted Meteoroids