Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Mike! Any post that gets folks in a frenzy. However, this was response to Ruben. Jim On 4/13/2014 6:45 PM, Mike Miller wrote: Hey Jim just curious are you referring to my post here? When I hear about possible rocks on the ground without basis, it bugs me. It reminds me of the calling

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Ruben Garcia
Huh? I never said there were stones on the ground...I never said anything like that. Only that it was a huge sighting - which it was. However, I hope my posts get people excited about a possible fall, since in my opinion there is no greater rush than someone finding their first fall. So, if my

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Peterson
Ground level sonics are a very good indicator that meteorites were produced. However, the absence of sonics doesn't argue against meteorites at all. In all likelihood, the majority of meteorite falls are not preceded with either a significant fireball nor any acoustics. We are subject to a

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Ruben Garcia
Thanks Chris, Couldn't have said it better! Maybe the Guru's of Doppler (Fries and Matson) can give us a little better insight as to whether we go or stay this time. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Ground level sonics are a very good indicator

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Chris, Yes, and that's what we do! Jim On 4/14/2014 8:18 AM, Chris Peterson wrote: Ground level sonics are a very good indicator that meteorites were produced. However, the absence of sonics doesn't argue against meteorites at all. In all likelihood, the majority of meteorite falls are

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Raymond Borges
Hello, Regarding this comment In all likelihood, the majority of meteorite falls are not preceded with either a significant fireball nor any acoustics. I think the majority of meteorite falls that produce finds will exhibit these features based on the meteorite books I have read from Nininger

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Peterson
The majority that produce _falls_, yes, but not _finds_, I think. That is, your typical find (either a single individual or several pieces) probably didn't come from a spectacular meteor event. Of course, finds in large strewn fields are a different matter. Atmospheric entry models

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-14 Thread Steinar Midtskogen
Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu writes: The majority that produce _falls_, yes, but not _finds_, I think. That is, your typical find (either a single individual or several pieces) probably didn't come from a spectacular meteor event. Of course, finds in large strewn fields are a

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ

2014-04-13 Thread Jim Wooddell
Not that big of an event! Jim On 4/12/2014 10:10 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote: No video yet, but the 10:00 NEWS opened the show with about 7 minutes of talk and interviews of this fireball. Initial reports said it landed 75-80 miles north of Las Cruces, NM Stay tuned, I'll bet someone posts a

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Farmer
Not good area, lots of mountains, but sparse desert vegetation. Could be time for a hunt. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: No video yet, but the 10:00 NEWS opened the show with about 7 minutes of talk and interviews of this

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread shawnalan
Hello Listers I found some info on the fall and here is some stats... vel 667.2 km/s beg 135.8 km end 40.8 km Now could a meteorite come from the Vel speed? I mean thats really fast 667.2km, or that could be a mistake, which I think it is? With the meteor ending at 40km there is a possibility

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread Chris Peterson
There is almost no possibility of a meteor having that speed. The maximum possible velocity a body in orbit around the Sun can encounter the Earth at is 72 km/s. Anything faster than that would exceed the solar escape velocity, implying either some sort of slingshot orbit or a body originating

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Shawn, This is a fairly normal event. Nothing much to get excited about. The calculation is an error.If the 40.8km is the burn out I doubt anyone will waste much time on this one. No sonic reports to speak of and that is also not a good sign. The UT is questionable too! Jim On

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all, Jim it's pretty much the same with any meteor event. The truth is unless we have good Doppler information or someone personally witnessed a meteorite strike a house or a car, or there is a stone found - there's not much reason to waste time looking. Most people (me included) thought the

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread Greg Crinklaw
On 4/13/2014 5:06 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote: Also, the lack of Sonic reports may be due to the fact that it landed where no one lives and not that it didn't produce a sonic boom. For what it's worth, I heard what sounded like distant thunder last night at about the right time. This from

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Greg, It wouldn't be the first time a meteor event ended in a restricted zone. I didn't participate, but ask anyone that went looking near Dugway in Utah. If it landed in White Sands it may as well landed in the ocean...it's gone. On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Greg Crinklaw

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Ruben, I think Whetstone had far greater evidence of there being stones on the ground if I remember correctly. Didn't Jack find one very shortly after the fall? There were multiple camera captures, sonics and witnesses, both visual and audible. The sonics I refer to do include human

[meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ - Stats from fall

2014-04-13 Thread shawnalan
Hello Lister Whetstone did have a lot of evidence and a video, which this fall that happened yesterday has video as well. My question is the fireball went out around 40km, that some what high, but you never know till some finds a stone like Ruben said or if someone can find some bounce back on

[meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ

2014-04-12 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all, Here's the first bits of NEWS that may turn into something big. Channel 12 NEWS in Phoenix is reporting this on their Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/12news Lets watch and see what comes from it! -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ

2014-04-12 Thread Ruben Garcia
No video yet, but the 10:00 NEWS opened the show with about 7 minutes of talk and interviews of this fireball. Initial reports said it landed 75-80 miles north of Las Cruces, NM Stay tuned, I'll bet someone posts a video soon. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Ruben Garcia

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ

2014-04-12 Thread Carl Agee
If this dropped stones on New Mexico, you know where to bring them! Carl Agee * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505)

Re: [meteorite-list] HUGE Meteor Sighting in Cottonwood AZ

2014-04-12 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Carl, If someone reports a meteorite in their living room tomorrow morning expect me at your office on Monday... : ) This camera (run by NASA) located at NMSU captured some video. http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/clip/10048574/meteor-seen-across-the-southwest-usa On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:36