Re: [meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-17 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Doug, It's clear you experience great sympathy for Ortiz. But I caution you to examine the evidence closely. The analogy you suggest for the Sterling meteorite hunter is not quite accurate nor apt. I hope you like lots of links, 'cause that's what we have here. Initially, suspicion

[meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-17 Thread Marco Langbroek
Darren wrote: Why not do the HONEST thing and go to Brown and say here, look at this data we have, I think we are looking at the same object. Why don't we pool our data and publish together? This happens sometimes when the peope involved know each other well. When this is not the case, it

Re: [meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-15 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Rob, List No, Ortiz hasn't replied yet, even though you will note Brown has been repeatedly asking him to explain since July without any response from him, which is why Brown gave up on trying to resolve things peaceable and private. Ortiz can communicate with the NYTimes, though: I do

Re: [meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-15 Thread Pete Pete
PROTECTED],'meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 03:38:33 -0500 Hi, Rob, List No, Ortiz hasn't replied yet, even though you will note Brown has been repeatedly

[meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-15 Thread Paul H
Darren Garrison posted: September 13, 2005 One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl By DENNIS OVERBYE http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/space/13plan.html?pagewanted=all Related web pages are: The discovery of 2003 UB313, the 10th planet.

Re: [meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-15 Thread MexicoDoug
Hello Sterling, Rob, Paul and others following the astronomical brawl, The Andalucian Astrophysic's webpage of discovery was suspiciously removed from the internet, but the cached version from August 16, 2005 is still ethically:) available at the following web address, along with the first

[meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-14 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/space/13plan.html?pagewanted=all September 13, 2005 One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl By DENNIS OVERBYE Correction Appended When a group of Spanish astronomers reported in July that they had discovered a spectacular addition to the solar

Re: [meteorite-list] One Find, Two Astronomers: An Ethical Brawl

2005-09-14 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All, Jay Leno loves to read those news clippings, you know, like the one about the bank robber who wrote his holdup note on the back of a deposit slip -- HIS OWN personal deposit slip with his name and account number on it, and who was surprised when he arrived home with the loot to find