Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-04 Thread Dawn & Gerald Flaherty
5 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Hi, This makes a lot of sense. It would appear that the cartoon dog was probably named FOR the planet, as this name would have been in the news at the time -- the discovery of the planet was a sensation everybo

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-04 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, This makes a lot of sense. It would appear that the cartoon dog was probably named FOR the planet, as this name would have been in the news at the time -- the discovery of the planet was a sensation everybody talked about! Walt was just cashing in on the free publicity. Just like him. S

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Dawn & Gerald Flaherty
I Like it Greg! Jerry - Original Message - From: "Greg Redfern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'AL Mitterling'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:53 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to D

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:39:49 -0500, AL Mitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Tom and all, > >In Reality Pluto wasn't named after the cartoon character, rather it was >a name picked out by the discover (and staff at Lowell) and having >something to do with the afterlife. I'm not sure if the D

RE: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Greg Redfern
5 9:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Hi Tom and all, In Reality Pluto wasn't named after the cartoon character, rather it was a name picked out by the discover (and staff at Lowell) and hav

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi Tom and all, In Reality Pluto wasn't named after the cartoon character, rather it was a name picked out by the discover (and staff at Lowell) and having something to do with the afterlife. I'm not sure if the Dog Pluto was well know or even around at that time in 1930. This is a misconcepti

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Dawn & Gerald Flaherty
Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet > Hi, Ron, > > You'll notice that I put quotes around the word "rules." > >

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All First, the definition of a planet. As for the lack of a formal definition of what is a planet, the IAU website says: "Definition of a Planet: The IAU notes the very rapid pace of discovery of bodies within the Solar system over the last decade and so our understanding of th

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Ron Baalke
> > Hi, Ron, > > You'll notice that I put quotes around the word "rules." You also referred to is a game, which is not. Any classification scheme can be revised - and in fact, should be allowed to be revised when new data presents itself. > Yes, there is no formal definition for a plan

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Ron, You'll notice that I put quotes around the word "rules." Yes, there is no formal definition for a planet. There never has been, only a working understanding of what was meant. There were differences; it has been a topic of discussion. But, there are "working rules," by whic

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Darren, Brown wanted Persephone, too. But it's taken, years ago, by a MINOR planet. ORCUS, a Greek name for the Afterlife is already taken by another really big KBO, 2000DW. Eurydice? Elysium? Minos? Hades? The Underworld names seems too negative for a happy object. They may all b

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Darren Garrison
I suggested Persephone. http://www.newscientistspace.com/channel/solar-system/dn7776 Join the battle of the planet names 12:51 02 August 2005 NewScientist.com news service Sean O'Neill Imagine your excitement if you discovered a new planet. The privilege of suggesting its name would be y

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Martin Altmann
But should the soap fit in the box or should the box be fitting for the soap?? - Original Message - From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Ron Baalke
> > Two, 2003UB313 IS a planet under the "rules" that were in effect at > the time of discovery. There is no formal definition for a planet, and that it the crux of the problem. The IAU will be providing a formal definition soon. >You don't change the rules after the game is over > because

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 02:11:55 -0500, "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Three, he's IN THE RIGHT here. I happen to agree with this myself and >I thought so before I ever heard Brown's name. I said to my self, I said, >"Self, if it's twice as big as Pluto (a planet), then it's a p

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-03 Thread MexicoDoug
Sterling W. wrote: >Then, there would then be three classes of planets: the Terrestrial, >the Jovian, and the Plutonian planets. Hola Sterling; I'm on board with just one reservation. With all this hullabaloo going on about with Pluto in the spotlight and reticence to accept these huge, m

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Tom Knudson
--- From: "tracy latimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet > What about 'planitesimal'? I had always thought that referred to an object > in orbit around the Sun

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread tracy latimer
o be at least the size of Mars before I could concede it might be a planet. Pluto I'm willing to grandfather in, but none of this frozen-uber-pea size stuff. Tracy Latimer From: AL Mitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Chris Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: Meteorite Mailing Lis

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:06:31 -0600, "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >No, but it has been for the best part of the last century. The vast majority >of people now alive don't remember a time before there was a ninth planet. The vast majority of all people now alive couldn't name all nin

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Chris Peterson
ssage - From: "Kashuba, Ontario, California" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Chris a

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Tom Knudson
) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< - Original Message - From: "AL Mitterling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kashuba, Ontario, California" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi John and others, Pluto hasn't even been know for a century yet. Far as I know it has only been recently that the status has been questioned with no real definition yet. --AL Kashuba, Ontario, California wrote: Chris and others, Pluto has not been referred to as a planet for centuries

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi Chris and all, I like the word Plutonianites for these larger objects, planets. Maybe PlutoPlanets. --AL Chris Peterson Wrote: I say come up with a new word. (for planets) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com htt

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread David Freeman mjwy
to has not been referred to as a planet for centuries . John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: "Chris Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astro

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Kashuba, Ontario, California
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Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Chris Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, "Dawn & Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, by the same "give up on defining a planet because a planet i

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Dawn & Gerald Flaherty
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dawn & Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, "D

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, "Dawn & Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >A thought provoking concept Darren. >Analagous to seventeenth century religiousity which refused to accept the >Copernican revolutionary thought? >Kinda "don't rock the boat cause its too damned complicated a

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-02 Thread Dawn & Gerald Flaherty
before my doctor screwed that up] Jerry - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Mon, 1 Aug

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet

2005-08-01 Thread Darren Garrison
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 16:07:54 -0700 (PDT), Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Brown argues that astronomers cannot control what gets called a planet. >"Our culture has fully embraced the idea that Pluto is a planet and >scientists have for the most part not yet fully realized that the term >'pla