[meteorite-list] the mad mad mad mad Canadian

2004-02-22 Thread Michael L Blood
Update: The mad Canadian who has a Space Slag web site is now threatening to sue me for slander for associating him with John Wasson, when, in reality, it was Carlton Moore whom he was threatening to sue along with Rob Elliott, as my cohorts, not John Wasson. (I knew it was a noted

RE: [meteorite-list] the mad mad mad mad Canadian

2004-02-22 Thread stan .
I can sue you AND win (if you dont provide a defense to the court) because I didnt like the shirt you wore the day of the auction in tucson. ANYONE and sue ANYONE for ANYTHING, however, and this is a big however, most jurisdictions in the us have statutes that make the plaintif liable for the

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Conservation of Meteorites]

2004-02-22 Thread Gabriel De Kooker
Here in South Africa they also say that any meteorite belongs to the state but I handed over a stone that looked just like a perfectly oriented meteorite and it even had a crust like some of my NWA's complete with flow lines weighing in at 640 grams. It just disapeared from the safe they stored it

Re: [meteorite-list] Conservation of Meteorites

2004-02-22 Thread Norman Lehrman
Nick list, Surely someone out there understands that Nick was not talking about governmental policy! "Conservation" here is something akin to "physical preservation": what can you do to keep your meteorites from deteriorating, from turning into a pile of rust? This is a great topic for the

Re: [meteorite-list] the mad mad mad mad Canadian

2004-02-22 Thread MarkF
Hi Michael and List Having seen the court system in Canada (B.C.) work, it is hard for me to believe that any Canadian could get such an argument into court. Although they have recently (within the last 3-4 yrs or so) set a precedence for defamation of character in that country, one has to have a

[meteorite-list] Chiang Khan authenticity

2004-02-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello list, as there were some doubts concerning the authenticity of the Chiang Khan material, offered here in this list for charity purposes in Thailand by Mr.Alge, I feel, that I have to post a statement. I unconditionally warrant the authenticity of his specimens not only as a member of IMCA,

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Conservation of Meteorites]

2004-02-22 Thread MarkF
Hi Lars and List Things like this will only become more prevalent, not less because the powers who make such laws cannot tell the difference between one type of anything from another. So, to compensate for lack of knowledge, which they believe everyone has except for the experts in official

Re: [meteorite-list] Conservation of Meteorites

2004-02-22 Thread MarkF
Hi Nicholas and List This is something that is very much needed by the community here. How to keep specimens as safe as possible from wasting diseases! I'm sure you'd find as many opinions on how to handle, store, cut, and protect meteorites as there are ways to save an old brass spittoon. Some

[meteorite-list] ebay auctions

2004-02-22 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I have 1 auction ending in 2 hours.I also have 9 on-going with all BUY IT NOWS.Some rare stuff if you do not have any nevada's.Also all pictures are up from tucson show for your viewing. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL,

[meteorite-list] Meteorite House Impact on ebay

2004-02-22 Thread Comcast Mail
Hello List, I have a fragment of a stone that fell through a roof of ahome inOlympia Fields, Illinois for auction on ebay ending today. The auction includes a piece of the kitchen floor ( mounted in a riker mount ),a copy of the news article, photos of the ceiling and kitchen floor and a

Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote fireballs

2004-02-22 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Stephen, While I am sure there are a several more experts on the speed and physics of a meteorite fall and the Sikhote fall in general, I will try to answer your question. Steve wrote: "Does anyone know whether these fastest pieces were moving rapidly enough to remain luminous all the

Re: [meteorite-list] Conservation of Meteorites

2004-02-22 Thread martinh
Hi Nick, This might be too general for your needs, but it does highlight the big picture of curation. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/asteroid2000/pdf/8027.pdf. Cheers, Martin - Original Message - From: Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:53 pm

Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan authenticity

2004-02-22 Thread martinh
Hi All, Several years ago, I met Oliver through some email exchanges. Oliver's interest in Chiang Khan is more than passing, and I suspect he is the world's authority on the fall. We discussed Chiang Khan years ago, and even to this day, I consider it an honor that he took the time and

Re: [meteorite-list] Conservation of Meteorites

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Martin and others, From that paper I see the use of Class 10 cleanrooms is becoming the state of the art for bringing in future samples. That is a lot of clean air which should help keep these samples pristine...so as the people involved follow protocol. As for the future retrieval of Mars

[meteorite-list] fireball speed

2004-02-22 Thread Stephen McMann
Dear List, In general how rapidly must an object travel through the atmosphere to produce visible light? Note that don't even know whether one speed can approximate an answer, or whether factors such as air density, the shape of the object, or the composition of the object have an enormous

[meteorite-list] Collecting Software

2004-02-22 Thread Bass Racket
I just beginning my Meteorite collection. What is the best Software/Templates to use to Organize my collection? Many Thanks DAve Holt __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

[meteorite-list] CONSERVATION of Meteorites once collected.

2004-02-22 Thread Nicholas Gessler
Hey Folks, There seems to be a HUGE misunderstanding on this list about the term conservation. I am referring to the term conservation in the museum context. I thought that was clear when I mentioned conserving archeological and ethnographic items. I thought that was clear when I mentioned the

Re: [meteorite-list] CONSERVATION of Meteorites once collected.

2004-02-22 Thread David Freeman
Dear Nick, List: MY BAD, I read the post in the wrong direction. Preservation against meteorite physical degradation is rather a long term albeit exacting in definition. Stopping Lawrencite in its tracks, or Preventing the ooze blues are both good. Oh do not weep for me my Nantan, Dave

[meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List, This Glassface seller on ebay is a real clown and a poor con artist. He just listed a piece of Martian basalt that he claims has preferentially aligned OPX crystals. This is simply amazing considering there are only two such stones in the world for a TKW of only 378 grams making it

[meteorite-list] Meteoroid speed (was Sikhote Alin)

2004-02-22 Thread Dieter Heinlein
Hello list, the region where meteoroids penetrating our atmosphere produce visible light (so-called fireball) is mainly dominated by two factors: the air density and the velocity of the incoming body. Generally, ordinary meteoroids with preatmospheric masses in the range of several hundred

Re: [meteorite-list] fireball speed

2004-02-22 Thread KHe1144783
In a message dated 2/22/2004 8:11:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In general how rapidly must an object travel through the atmosphere to produce visible light? Note that don't even know whether one speed can approximate an answer, or whether factors such as air density, the

[meteorite-list] Worden (Garage/Car) Slice Available

2004-02-22 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
Hello List, Do to the need of cash to purchase a long-desired specimen, it has come time to put my beloved slice of Worden up for sale (or possible sale-trade!). Here's the deal; this is an awesome 23.5g half slice with tiny specks of red paint (from the car!) on the top of the slice. What I'm

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Adam and others, It is the same igneous rock he was slicing and calling DAG 476. It is basalt or gabbrothe green look to it maybe olivne but more likely epidote. What was the name of that character that Art has banned in the past...not Matteo..before him. This is starting to have the

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Jim Strope
Everyone should just bid on this auction just enough to be registered as a bid. If it gets enough bids it will attract attention just because of the number of bids. I just bid ten times in increments of the minimum of six cents and Gregory is still high bidder at only $1.01 Jim -

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Sharkkb8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just bid ten times in increments of the minimum of sixcents and Gregory is still high bidder at only $1.01 Exactly what I was hoping for - I bid $5.00 but I hope that it takes dozens of small-increment-bids for someone to get there, thus cranking up the "number

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread MARK BOSTICK
This is kind of fun, I decided to play. Note you can bid, $11.00, then bid $11.50 and get two bids in, you cant outbid yourself. Mark - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

[meteorite-list] Re: glassface (without the gl ;-)

2004-02-22 Thread Sharkkb8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is kind of fun, I decided to play. Note you can bid, $11.00, then bid $11.50 and get two bids in, you cant outbid yourself. Great! John, you could add few lines to your text (using the "Revise Your Listing" tool)explaining thatthe immediate explosion ofbids is a

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
44 bids in one hour...not a bad start. Can I bid on my own stuff?...they look almost too good to sell. Maybe they are from out there and were transported down with the that new Slag that was made on Mars? JD PS Thanx for the push Adam. I've been tempted to do this all week. Everyone should

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread MarkF
You realize too that you can also retract bids for a reason - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock 44 bids in one hour...not a bad start. Can I bid on

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I am the high bidder now, God someone please out bid me, I can't afford it! Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA #6168 - Original Message - From: MarkF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Michael L Blood
OK, Mr Smartypants, Send me the ORIGINAL site - I obviously went to the moc site. Michael on 2/22/04 2:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't get it, you guys not misleading unless you don't read.I don't get it... I

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Sharkkb8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, Mr Smartypants,Send me the ORIGINAL site - I obviously went to the "moc"site. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2227683715 Mr. Smarty Pants --- When Jesus said "if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one", I think

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Michael L Blood
Dear Mr. Smarty Pants, Yes, indeed, I can verify..these are two different ads. Mr. Michael L. Blood, Genius emeritus to the lower middle classes and mental midgets. on 2/22/04 2:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, Mr

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread j . divelbiss
Michael, I still can't tell if you got it or not. I made a listing that spoofs the other one. And, yes I say they are from earth...not Mars. See below for mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2227754521 Contact me if you are still cornfused. Regards, Mr. Smartyrocks Dear

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread David Freeman
...And them there WILD Hawaiian shirts, how do you expect to sneak up on wild meteorites? Confuse them? :-) DAve F. Michael L Blood wrote: Dear Mr. Smarty Pants, Yes, indeed, I can verify..these are two different ads. Mr. Michael L. Blood, Genius emeritus to the lower middle

[meteorite-list] Fall or Find? auctions now over!

2004-02-22 Thread Roman Jirasek
I rest my case. See results by clicking on the links below. Roman Hi All, Well, most people think the Gao lot will end with a higher bid. Personaly, I think the NWA lot will win, but who knows? These 2 auctions will end on Sunday, take a look and watch the results happen. Gao auction

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, It is good to see that List members are tired of seeing all of these ebay frauds and are becoming actively involved. It looks like this unsavory glassface idiot might be the straw that broke the camels back, lets hope so. I cannot imagine a seller being so blatant about

[meteorite-list] New Diogenite for sale.

2004-02-22 Thread Michael Farmer
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/dhofar700.htmI have a new Diogenite that is very nice. I bought a slice for my collection but accidently broke it. Since I broke it, i'll put the pieces up for sale. It is beautiful, very unlike any other Diogenite I have ever seen. I only have the 6 pieces I have

[meteorite-list] fireball speed

2004-02-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
For a meteorite to be lit, it has to be traveling faster than the speed of sound (in air) and probably faster than that. So a meteorite can only get to the ground while lit if hypersonic. When an object hits something at hypersonic velocities, the shock wave

Re: [meteorite-list] New Diogenite for sale.

2004-02-22 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Ah Mike, a little super glue and presto, one nice slice again! Although, for the life of me I cant figure out how that puzzle fit together. : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA #6168 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February

RE: [meteorite-list] fireball speed

2004-02-22 Thread stan .
By the way, the maximum weight for a stone to reach the ground is less than for an iron, only 40 tons or so. That's a stone roughly spheroidal and about 25 feet in diameter! So, if you notice a fusion crusted rock, say, 9 meters across, be sure and check it with a

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - February 21, 2004

2004-02-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Down in the Trench - sol 48, Feb 21, 2004 On its 48th sol, ending at 1:16 p.m. Saturday, PST, Spirit maneuvered its robotic arm successfully within the challengingly tight confines of the trench that the rover had dug into the

Re: [meteorite-list] fireball speed

2004-02-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Whoops! It's those tricky decimal points again. Or long division, perhaps. Either that, or the back of this envelope is not big enough. Maybe I should have used one of those two PDP-11's you have connected with a serial cable? And the really silly thing is that three years ago (02-20-01),

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - February 22, 2004

2004-02-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Trench Exam Continues - sol 49, Feb 22, 2004 Spirit continued its inspection of the trench dubbed Road Cut during the rover's 49th sol, ending at 1:56 p.m. Sunday, PST. It used three instruments on its robotic arm to examine

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Randy aka Randy Mils
Ebay rule of thumb #1: IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY - DON'T PLAY.Randy the Rambler From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MarkF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Randy, Ebay rule of thumb # 2, the one you never see! IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PLAY - DON'T PAY (joke) : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA #6168 - Original Message - From: Randy aka Randy Mils [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: Re:

[meteorite-list] Something that every Martian meteorite collector should have in thier collection!

2004-02-22 Thread Dave Schultz
Hope this attachment works! :) Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools eBay item 3662669258 (Ends Mar-03-04 075815 PST) - RUSSIAN,

Re: [meteorite-list] Glassface found the 33rd Mars Rock

2004-02-22 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 2/22/2004 4:53:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that John's auction to make other collectors aware that these frauds do take place is a great idea. Even better, the money raised is going to a good cause. I know the IMCA is limited about what can

[meteorite-list] OT: The White House Coup Against NASA

2004-02-22 Thread Robert Verish
-- Forward Message -- The White House Coup Against NASA Submitted to Portside February 20, 2004 THE WHITE HOUSE COUP AGAINST NASA By Morton H. Frank A rapid series of events makes evident that the Bush administration has moved to take direct control of NASA in order to serve

[meteorite-list] It is ridiculous now.

2004-02-22 Thread Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems
Title: Nachricht Someone from the US just HAS to report this seller to ebay: http://cgi.ebay.at/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2227843817category=3239 Bernhard