for your news the new italian meteorites exit in the next Met.Bull. and stop
to say this idiocy without any tests in your hands.
they are months that I wonder who puts in these turn falsehood but you not
give this informations, therefore better that you of it quiet bushels
From: Michael Farmer
Hello All,
Farmer wrote, Wow, advice from the guy who fakes new Italian meteorite
falls. I think we
can ignore just about anything you say Matteo.
Mauro-Matteo wrote.something, something, new meteorite.
Mark coughs, and accidently pastes the following
this for close the mouths to a person in this list continue to say fake
informations on this meteorite and on me.
From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 01:21:20 -0500
ah...Lido di Venezia and Argentera probably exit in the next Met.Bull. for
the Mareson di Zoldo and the Piave River I am under waith Vincent Jacques
write to Sara Russel for explain the analysis done in Belgiumbut I do
not, probably Vincent its death, why he never have answer to Sara and
I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List?
Well, you asked,
I won't buy from or sell to Evans, as he still didn't paid the 1000 bucks,
he's owing to Ralew,
and shows no efforts to do so. Perhaps the revenues of his auctions will
help him to do so.
Martin
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Hello List
I can understand that when someone classyfy 200g as NWA4000 then other
samples above this 200g can be or not the same material.
But where is border beetween meteorites that can be sell without
classification under similar NWA numbers and other, than can't be sold
using NWA numbers that
I'd say it's all a matter of integrity and honesty.
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Astronomers working in Chile think they may have taken the first direct
image of a planet circling another star.
The star, called 2M1207, is 230 light-years away and is very much
smaller and fainter than our own Sun
Hiho,
If someone has problems with all the NWA-number-mess, the uncertain
pairings, tkws, find locations, I would suggest him or her to take
meteorites from Oman:
those are in general much more better documented and most of them have
accurate geographical coordinates, find weight, number of
Dear Marcin and List,
if NWA4000 has a total known weight of 200 g, it would be a little
strange, if somebody offers 500 g of NWA4000 for sale. In my opinion the
correct way would be that the seller offers the material aspossibly paired
with NWA4000 and provides a thin section of the possibly
Regarding the different procedure for e.g. NWA / Gao-Guenie - this issue was addressed
in an email by Jeff Grossman dated Sept. 9, 2004 (see below).
Gao-Guenie can be treated like Allende or Holbrook in this context as it doesn't apply
to areas of dense meteorite concentration.
Cheers,
Jörn
Sorry, my inteligen mail program send this too early :))
So I think, the best what Adam or Greg can do now to prevent selling any
paired or unpaired legal or illegal, tested or not tesed samples of NWA1877
is to buy all remaining samples of Olivine Diogenite from Morocco (Habibi
and Co) , classify
Paper: Nevada State Journal
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1943
Page: 1
Mystery Blasts May Be Meteors
E. H. Ralford, of 735 Wells Ave., says the explosion which rocked Reno
early yesterday morning may have been the result of a meteor which he saw
over Peavine Mountain just
Paper: Council Bluffs Iowa Nonparell
City: Council Bluffs, Iowa
Date: December 11, 1946
Meteorites Burn Over Midwest Sky
A fiery meteor - said to resemble everything from a blue streak of
light to a pale green ball with a very bright red tail Tuesday night
illuminated skies over Council
Paper: Gettysburg Times
City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
Date: Thursday, January 23, 1941
Page: 7
Portion of Meteor May Be in Southern Maryland
Washington, Jan. 23 (AP) - Dr. E. P. Henderson, in charge of the
National Museum's meteor collection, expressed the view Wednesday that a
large meteor
Paper: New Oxford Item
City: New Oxford, Pennsylvania
Date: Friday, March 14, 1890
Page: 4
At the home of Martin Kittringham, a large planter near Monticello,
Miss., there was eaten Sunday a dinner, the cooking of which was in ancient
and modern history. A large, glowing hot meteor passed
Stephan said:
snip ... I think, if a collector buys a slice of a
high-priced meteorite, he has a right to know the exact informations
about
the specimen.
Yeah, I agree with that one, how many of us have paid over large sums
for material, only to get a slice in a plastic bag with no origin
Paper: Manitoba Morning Free Press
City: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thursday, January 14, 1904
Page: 13
The Oregon Meteorite
Although the ownership of the prize is still a matter of litigation, New
York men are in competition with the national government and with
representatives of
What I do (I know it isn't a cure but will certainly help sometimes to
keep track of the material I own):
If I buy something, I record from whom I bought it. When I sell
something, I record to whom I sell and add a letter to the sold piece,
asking the new owner to keep a record about source and
Paper: Daily Review
City: Decatur, Illinois
Date: Monday Evening, December 1, 1902
Page: 2
HOMEMADE METEORITES
Genuine meteorites are so rare and bring such high prices among museums
and scientific collectors that it is perhaps not surprising that sharp
practices should resorted to by
Good idea Bernd.
People like to make their own labels, for obvious reasons, unfortunately
that's when all the history of the specimen is lost! But if we had a
standard record card, as well though.
Best,
Mark
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Regarding the different procedure for e.g. NWA / Gao-Guenie - this issue
was addressed
in an email by Jeff Grossman dated Sept. 9, 2004 (see below).
Gao-Guenie can be treated like Allende or Holbrook in this context as it
doesn't apply to areas of dense meteorite concentration.
but what about
In reviewing the reports of skyfalls and bolides and what-have-you, I'm always
intrigued with the official explanation having to do with practical jokers using
high explosives to get their jollies. I've seen this preposterous explanation used in
other mystery blast storiesmy favorite was
Hello Stan and List. Yes, this was exactly the point that we made in an
earlier posting (The Probem with Reductionism ad Infinitum). The
members of this list have not yet received any response from Adam on
this matter and we wonder if he or anyone else have a reasonable
explanation for this
Dear John and List,
The word apparent double standard would apply here. If you feel it is ok to
pick numbers at random for additional finds when it comes to NWA and not
others, why is this not happening with the Antarctic, Sahara, DAGs, SAUs and
Dhofars? Why is it that when a Martian meteorite
Hello Adam, Stan and List. Adam-I think you missed the point that Stan
and I were trying to make. We all agree that it would be best if
every single stone found in the desert could be independently
classified, the problem is that there are not enough resources or people
willing to do so. The
Dear List,
We do know where all of NWA 1110 was found as does the journalist who
documented our second expedition to Marrir. The first trip was published in
Meteorite Magazine. Every piece of NWA 1110 was found by a Nomadic family in
a 12 meter X 12 meter area 14 kilometers from the village of
Hola Veiocity,
I just wanted to comment on the etching project you have gotten into. I haven't
looked at the chemistry going on with the Ferric chloride solution you bought, and
hopefully will do that if for no other reason than to walk through what other side
reactions are going on for my
Hi Adam and thanks for the note. We know of around 60 g of picritic
shergottite fragments that look identical to NWA 1110, and that were not
part of the original 118 grams. This suggests that either several
pieces of NWA 1068 hit rocks and broke into fragments, or perhaps more
likely, a mass
Hello List,
Does anyone remember a publication called Meteor News ? It had
information about recent falls, and finds from around the world. It also
had information in it about expeditions to observe some of the meteor
showers. It was put out by Karl and Wanda Simmons of Callahan, Florida,
The word apparent double standard would apply here. If you feel it is ok
to
pick numbers at random for additional finds when it comes to NWA and not
others, why is this not happening with the Antarctic, Sahara, DAGs, SAUs
and
Dhofars?
just for the sake of clarity, i dont think this is a
Something else I am wondering about with regard to the Genesis impact
is the reliability of the Stardust sample return parachute which will
deploy in January of 2006 over the same stretch of land.
Hi guys,
I'm just back from vacation. Last year when I was on vacation, the Park Forest
Hey All,
You can also try going to your local hardware/pool supply store and pick up some pool-cleaning acid. It's used to raise the ph of swimming pools. It usually runs for under $10 a gallon. I recently used some on a small nantan (bought for the experiment) and it ate all of the shale off in
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To: Michael Cottingham
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: 15% off any BUY IT NOW Auction or Store Items. Today
Only!
Hello,
I am offering 15% off any of my BUY IT NOW Items.
This applies to Auctions or Store Items. Go
Dear Bob;
I think it tends to speak of one's personal character when one copies /borrows
without favor/ out right furnishes others' descriptions and doesn't cite
the original source.
Lazy comes to mindmentally lazy. No, last I knew the ebay descriptions
police didn't waste time on small
Perhaps the revenues of his auctions will help him to do so.
Yeah, maybe he'll even make enough so that he can afford to pay the $125 that he owes
me as well.
Ryan
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To: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Yes, you great meteorite guys out there.
I am watching (and I am sure that I am not the only one, the most of us real
collectors) are watching this discussions long long enough.
Even taking the risk, that some of my personal friends will break
friendship, I want to share my own opinion on this
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Scientists at the Naval Research Laboratory and the Carnegie Institution of
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At 11:10 PM 9/12/2004, Mauro Daniel wrote:
therefore better that you of it quiet bushels
Can anyone interpret this for me? I'm in the process of moving right now
and my Captain Super decoder ring is packed away in a box.
Best,
JKG
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therefore better that you of it quiet bushels probably should read Therefore, you
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I think Mauro is using an online translator for converting Italian to English---such
translators often provide amusing results. }=]
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I don't understand this:
Adam said: Using the name NWA 869 is meaningless because like Kem Kem it
has become a catchall stone. I would go as far as to say, you would better
off selling NWA 869 as unclassified because an unclassified stone seems to
be worth more on the open market these days.
I
SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit finishes observing 'Ebenezer' and moves on to 'Tikal' -
sol 232-238, September 07, 2004
Spirit found a comfortable location on a rock outcrop and spent cold
autumn days performing observations of a rock called Ebenezer with the
rover's science instruments. Spirit finished
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html
SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit on Autopilot - sol 239-242, September 09, 2004
Spirit is in safe place to continue daily science observations
automatically throughout the solar conjunction period when engineers and
scientists will be unable to send
they may take this meteorite as a specimen not worth getting.
Hello All,
Meanwhile there are seven 869-ers in my collection and one is
as beautiful as the other - one of my most beautiful NWA 869
specimens is the 21.9-gram slice from list member Maria Haas.
And Christian Anger will also be
http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMH3J0XDYD_0.html
European Space Agency
Mars Express
Solis Planum, Thaumasia region
10 September 2004
These images, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board
ESA's Mars Express spacecraft, show part of a heavily eroded impact
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Genesis Sample Return Capsule Hits the Ground
NASA
September 8, 2004
The Genesis sample return capsule's drogue and parafoil did not
deploy as planned today, and the capsule impacted on the ground in
the Utah desert (image at right).
Hi Christian and List,
I wouldn't describe this discussion as valueless. I think, many collectors
would like to have more transparency regarding Tkw`s, possibly paired
material and many different NWA numbers for the same meteorite (stolen Ebay
descriptions are only a side issue at this). The idea
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Stefan,
As a total novice hungry for the most current information, I couldn't agree
more. (aside from the occasional nastiness which I tend to see more @
personaly.com.Youse guys knows each udder too goodl!), the information
exchange has been and I hope continues to be downright eyeopening.
Hello list,
The following is from The Daily Courier, a local newspaper from Perth,
Scotland:
It was a Mrs. Hall and her daughter Mary, the occupants of South Lodge at
Keithmick who had the biggest shock and the narrowest escape. Mrs. Hall
reported hearing an inexplicable noise worse than
http://www.carnegieinstitution.org/news_releases/News9-2-04.htm
Carnegie Institution of Washington
September 2, 2004
Contact-- Dr. Larry Nittler at Carnegie's Department of Terrestrial
Magnetism (DTM), 202-478-8460, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dr. Conel
Alexander at (DTM), 202-478- 8478, email
Sorry, I guess I just misunderstood you when you said using NWA 869 is
meaningless, I use it because that is what I bought it as.
Cj
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Hello list.I will not be chiming in as what is happening out there.I am
keeping my mouth shut.I'll let the existing parties continue to wage
war.It makes for good theatre.I have more DAG'S and DHOFARS in my
collection,than NWA'S.I have 20 main masses,17 of them are DHOFARS and all
classified, with
http://www.nature.com/news/2004/040830/full/040830-10.html
Alien microbes could survive crash-landing
Philip Ball
Nature
September 2, 2004
Tough bugs make interplanetary wanderings more plausible.
Bacteria could survive crash-landing on other planets, a British team
has found. The result
If anyone is interested, I have a 40.25g slice of NWA 3125 for sale on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2269589304
This comes with a Riker and information card as shown in the listing
Thank You,
Cj
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Microbes Could Survive Crash-Landing
http://www.nature.com/news/2004/040830/full/040830-10.html
I'll take the DHOFARS anyday of the
century.They are also alot cheaper to afford.Thanks so much to SERGE A
you can say that two times. I lovingly (or maybe lustily is the right word)
caress my main masses of dho 008 and dho 700 everynight before bedtime.
Serge offers exceptional specimns at
I think their survival would depend if the planet
the bacteria came from had a helmet law
Sorry- list needs to smile a bit!
Everyone have a good night.
Mike Groetz
(Seriously, this was a very interesting article- Thank
You Ron).
--- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stan wrote;
Serge offers exceptional specimns at prices that are at worst very fair,
and
at best absolutly unbeatable
I have to agree with Stan! Serge has everyone beat on prices and has great
material!
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier
IMCA 6168
http://www.cadillacnews.com/articles/2004/09/13/news/news01.txt
Former Cadillac man's life centers around meteorites, precious stones
and adventure
By DALE KILLINGBECK, CADILLAC NEWS
Former Cadillac resident David Freeman knows a hot rock when he sees one.
I've found two diamonds in Wyoming and
Any one of you have one of them meteors fer sale in Denver???
Interesting article. I assume the 40g piece Dave found (congrats BTW) is
an ordinary chondrite. Who would pay 2,000 for it? What is the basis
for quoting a price like that?
Curious,
Matt Morgan
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Hi List,
Serge sure gave me a good price on this complete slice of Dhofar 019. We
purchased all that he had in Denver last year so we received a huge
discount. This is the largest specimen in private hands weighing in it at a
hefty 16.45 grams. It also has the largest surface area with the
Newspapermen tend to stretch quotes.But since the TKW is now only 50
grams total, and the main mass of 40 grams that is not available to the
public is the only existing specimen other than the UCLA 10 gram type
specimen, and two years ago that was the value assessed by a notable
anonymous
Hello Met List. Over the coming months we will be adding a number of
newly classified, rare meteorites to our website. These include several
achondrites, one planetary achondrite, a gorgeous carbonaceous
chondrite, and two new irons. We have just update the website, adding a
number of full and
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Has someone been going though their old SF and re-read The Andromeda Strain?
Tracy Latimer
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