[meteorite-list] OT: Martin's Poll

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Hola list, dunno whether it's impolite or correct to address to the list with this personal concern... Some weeks ago my old computer said Goodbye, now I'm building up a new one (Kill Bill, have you ever tried to import an address-book from an old Outlook Express version to a new full version of

[meteorite-list] Link to: Geological timeline with some mention of impacts and meteorites OT

2006-02-14 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, A link is included that links to a geological timeline of events including meteorite impacts, etc. There is also a page for before one million years BP. Hope you find this as interesting as I did. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://timelines.ws/0A1MILL_3300BC.HTML ’ˆÓ: [EMAIL P

[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 869 individuals on ebay

2006-02-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
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[meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Hi Everyone, Ron Wesel has been gracious to offer some samples of NWS to me for a couple of class presentations I will make on meteorites this coming month. I've been reading all the books and think I know it all now [HA!] Ron and a few others had some good advice [thanks everyone], but I wo

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Larry Lebofsky
Gary: I have been doing this with kids from elementary school up through college for some time. Everyone does this differently since we all have different backgrounds and expertise. Don't be afraid to say that you do not know the answer. This is better than giving them bad information. I am an

RE: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Anita D. Westlake
Hi Gary: Could you share the good advice you've already received? We could all benefit from the shared wisdom of this group, and then we'll know better what to add. As far as lasting impressions, I always like to talk about Allende and how it's "pre-solar system" stuff! Talk about older than

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy/fossilalgae.com
Dear Gary, Anita, List; As a veteran of a dozen or more meteorite show and tell lectures, some with powerpoint (some with over a hundred people)I see a little twist that distresses me somewhat. Gettting directions, or ideas is a grand thing but...you will come across much more genuinely

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 (Scho ner's theory)

2006-02-14 Thread Steve Schoner
-- Norm Lehrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steve, Everything sounds fine till that last couple of paragraphs where every other proposal also stumbles. Just where is all this silicate material in our oceans or atmosphere? I still see a mass balance problem. I'm open for a good answer, but if y

[meteorite-list] New Study Suggests More Planets Lurk in Kuiper Belt

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/2006-02-12-kuiper-belt-study_x.htm New study suggests more planets lurk in Kuiper belt by Dan Vergano USA Today February 12, 2006 The cold, quiet outer reaches of our solar system appear to have once been a shooting gallery, astronomers repo

[meteorite-list] Interplanetary Dust Particles: Reproducing GEMS-Like Structure in the Laboratory

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.physorg.com/news10849.html Interplanetary dust particles: reproducing GEMS-like structure in the laboratory physorg.com February 14, 2006 In a coming issue, Astronomy & Astrophysics presents new laboratory results that provide some important clues to the possible origins of exotic mi

[meteorite-list] Rover Arrives Safely at 'Home Plate'

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_3507223 Rover arrives safely at `Home Plate' By ALICIA CHANG Associated Press February 14, 2006 LA CANADA FLINTRIDGE - The Mars rover Spirit has hit a home run by landing in a rugged plateau dubbed "Home Plate," but scientists are still trying to decipher

[meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Campo iron. Three views. Oriented or not? I can't make up my mind. http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840g-regmaglypts.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840-back.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840-edge.jpg Gary

AW: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Not. A fragment. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gary K. Foote Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 18:09 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not? Campo iron. Three views. Oriented or not

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi Gary and List, > Campo iron. Three views. Oriented or not? I can't make up my mind. http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840g-regmaglypts.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840-back.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840-edge.jpg The edge-on view looks l

AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Altmann
5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies) and distribute them as little presents, for them exitedly showing them to their parents and friends. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Larry Le

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread batkol
give them candy. : ) take care susan - Original Message - From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? 5. Take little samples with you (small Gaos, Canyon Diablos, Henburies

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Horejsi
Hi Gary, Ditto what others have said plus one more suggestion. I love to tell stories and they can be powerful teaching tools. A few that involve kids include Nobelsville, Ensisheim, Mbale, and of course Oakley, Idaho among others. Kids relate to kids, so any human/meteorite connection involving k

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Definitively? Not challenging, just curious. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 18:17, Martin Altmann wrote: > Not. A fragment. > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gary K. > Foote > Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Februar 2006 18:09 > An: Meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Interesting. Thanks Bernd. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 17:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Gary and List, > > > Campo iron. Three views. Oriented or not? I can't make up my mind. > > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo-840g-regmaglypts.jpg > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/campo

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Gary, Apologies for typos. I am writing this between patients. Done this many times. It's fun. Here is what I suggest. Kids that age are very visual and active. One neat thing to do is to have some "volunteers" act out the positions of the planets, including the asteroid belt. If you have

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Dave Mouat
Dear Gary and fellow Listees There has been a lot said about the topic of presenting to young kids. Humor, imagination, enthusiasm, the right level (not over their heads but not under either), good speaking skills (if you're concerned about this part, write notes and practice with someone). Mart

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Walter Branch
yes, Martin, right. Good advice. -Walter - - Original Message - From: "Martin Horejsi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips? Hi Gary, Dit

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Dave, >"made" the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, "dirt"). Placed yea, good one!!! Beats the old baking soda and vinager volcano! -Walter - - Original Message - From: "Dave Mouat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PR

AW: AW: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Definetely, but I'm extremely conservative. For me a stone is oriented, when I clearly can see were the front and where the back is, flight marks, who indicate a direction would be helpful too. Sometimes there exist e.g. little Sikhotes with flattened ends with bulges on the opposite ends od the

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Horejsi
Hi Walter and all, The dry ice comet is a great demo if you are allowed to do it. Sometimes dry ice and ammonia are on the elementary school banned list. This activity is one of the more accurate demos possible, and usually you can get great off-gassing jets projected using an overhead. The acti

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2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Bullets that have switched ends during flight. So a conservative description would also exclude spinning entry in a flattened state, forming a circular shield? Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 18:55, Martin Altmann wrote: > little Sikhotes with flattened ends with bulges > on the opposite ends _

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Gotta try this one at home first. lol Gary > >"made" the comet (dry ice, water, syrup, "dirt"). Placed > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Dave Mouat
Hi Martin and fellow Listees Martin reminded me of what else I threw in: ammonia; but I only had ammonia-laced soap. That added a bit-- The school never checked the ingredients I used and might not have known what was controlled. Dave Martin Horejsi wrote: > Hi Walter and all, > > The dry ice

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Eduardo.
I gave a lecture for my kids school (also at age 8). I started with a "nightime" story, a kid going to bed, then suddenly in the middle of the night a crash sound, breaking noises and when he turned the light off his room window and ceiling was broken (you have to put some suspense telling it).

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thanks Walter. I figured to walk around the class with samples letting each hold them one at a time to keep track of things. Talk while I walk. Not sure if I can get use of the theatre for the orbits because the whole school would come and the 'playing field' of discussion would have to be

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Eduardo, Hey, that is a good way to begin the discussion. I will have to remember that for next time. Very nice, with the drama and all. A little Steven Speilberg-like (but not Irwin Allen). Good idea, tying it in to the demise of the dinosaurs. -Walter

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Walter Branch
>Where I cant use orbiting kids Awe, reconsider Gary. Orbiting kids are fun!!! Gotta watch those collisions though. Some kids carry it a bit too far.. -Walter - - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Alexander Seidel
While discussing this special topic, right now I am definitely missing a contribution of our very dear meteorite friend Stuart Atkinson from Cockermouth/Scotland, a novel writer, and if I correctly recall his former posts from a very distant past of this group here at meteoritecentral, also a very

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
For me its few oriented, but not totaly. A oriented Campo its this I have in collection, Hans Koser have sold to me have confirm is oriented http://it.geocities.com/tunguska2004/CampodelCielo2.JPG Matteo --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Campo iron. Three views. Oriented

[meteorite-list] Saturn's Inner Moons - More Rubble Than Ice

2006-02-14 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn8720--saturns-inner-moons--more-rubble-than-ice.html Saturn's inner moons - more rubble than ice Kimm Groshong New Scientist 14 February 2006 Saturn's small, inner moons may not be huge chunks of ice as once thought, but rather "rubble piles" of materia

[meteorite-list] Ad - Excellent Auctions - Some Museum Quality!

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, I have several excellent auctions ending in a few hours, many way below what one might expect considering their rarity. I am running a few museum quality pieces this week so you may want to check these out. I would like to introduce a new beautiful Acapulcoite this week called

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Do you have edge and flip-side views Matteo? gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 20:14, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: > For me its few oriented, but not totaly. A oriented > Campo its this I have in collection, Hans Koser have > sold to me have confirm is oriented > > http://it.geocities.com/tunguska20

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thanks for the link Martin. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 10:30, Dave Mouat wrote: > Hi Martin and fellow Listees > > Martin reminded me of what else I threw in: ammonia; but I only had > ammonia-laced > soap. That added a bit-- The school never checked the ingredients I used and > might not have kno

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Horejsi
Du! The Garza Park Forest meteorite. Only the best kid story on this planet! I cannot belive I missed that one. Oh, I know why. Because I usually don't carry my Garza stone around with me for fear I might ruin it's character. Maybe I will now though. http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
No, but behind its well visible its a shield without thumbprints, in the photo its visible the face. Matteo --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Do you have edge and flip-side views Matteo? > > gary > > On 14 Feb 2006 at 20:14, M come Meteorite Meteorites > wrote: > > > For

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
same as mine On 14 Feb 2006 at 21:32, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: > No, but behind its well visible its a shield without > thumbprints, in the photo its visible the face. > > Matteo > > --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > Do you have edge and flip-side views Matte

RE: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Mark Rexburg
Sorry.NOT. But it is as oriented as some of the bricks you see on ebay. See examples of true orientation: http://www.meteorite.ch/en/oriented/ Mark From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list]

RE: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
The Taza Cone its a super oriented Matteo --- Mark Rexburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Sorry.NOT. But it is as oriented as some of > the bricks you see on > ebay. > > See examples of true orientation: > > http://www.meteorite.ch/en/oriented/ > > Mark > > >From: "Gary K. Foot

[meteorite-list] Ad: page of great Sikhote BULLETS just posted to our website

2006-02-14 Thread Norm Lehrman
List, With all the talk about oriented stones, I thought I'd get some great new strongly flight-oriented Sikhote Alin bullets posted. Check out the Sikhote Alin page at http://TektiteSource.com I'll be posting these to ebay over the next few months, but they are available from the website untill

RE: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
No seems to be the consensus. Can anyone tell me why one side is smooth as if a shield? Edges all show some semblance of lip except one area about 6cm long. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 13:02, Mark Rexburg wrote: > Sorry.NOT. But it is as oriented as some of the bricks you see on > ebay.

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Farmer
Gary, it really isn't necessary to reply to all every time you want to thank someone, I was gone from home for 3 hours and come home to 40 more list messages, It is getting overwhelming. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dave Mouat" <[EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello All ! I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely metal- and troilite-rich slice of NWA 2989 (Item #6605571076 - just in case you care to take a look ;-) that Adam is offering on EBay. Look at it and you'll know what I mean! Adam writes: "...TKW of 77 grams is recorded for NWA 2989. This we

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I inform all I have the last 2 little slices of NWA 1054 acapulcoite with new iron-nichel posphide found...one its go sold todayended this 2 pieces no others its available. Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: > Hello All ! > > I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely metal- > and tr

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
Simply trying to honor those who are helping with public recognition. Sorry to have filled your email box with trivia Mike. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 14:24, Michael Farmer wrote: > Gary, it really isn't necessary to reply to all every time you want to thank > someone, I was gone from home for 3

Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread A.V.B
Hi List Oriented or not? That is the question. For sure all individuals meteorites are oriented, not all with "super oriented evidences" with flew lines, regmaglyts, lips, noise cone, scoops, fusion crust ... the problem is the word "oriented" is to large. How is oriented? We must find a bett

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, I want to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion today. I felt it was very informative and I have printed the everyone's contributions and ideas for future reference. The ideas I got today will certainly improve my future presentations to kids. -Walter Branch ___

[meteorite-list] Mike's Webpage

2006-02-14 Thread Marcin Cimala
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Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented or not?

2006-02-14 Thread Gary K. Foote
I think that's a great idea. I was beginning to get the impressing that oriented meant many things to many people. Classification may be harder, but in the end more descriptive of reality. Gary On 14 Feb 2006 at 23:15, A.V.B wrote: > Hi List > Oriented or not? That is the question. > For su

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Bernd and all, Thank you for the kind words on NWA 2989. This is one very hard meteorite to image properly. Images of the two pieces that were pointed out were taken at a slightly different angle than the rest. All were polished to 3,000 grit so they reflect like a mirror into my camera making

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Elementary school presentation tips?

2006-02-14 Thread Larry Lebofsky
Gary: Went away for a few hours and now trying to catch up on the emails. If you do the comet (not sure I would do the comet AND meteorites on the same day -- too much for just about any grade level), be sure to do it "safely" --- gloves and eye protection. As an aside, I might be one of the f

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread John Birdsell
Hi Bernd...Yes, if it is paired to our new Acapulcoite NWA 2714 and NWA 2656, then the provisional write-up in MB90 states that the TKW is accounted for by a single ~ 7.5 kilogram stone which was apparently broken into pieces and sold. Cheers -John --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello All

[meteorite-list] Fireball Videos

2006-02-14 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Google has a beta of a new Google service: Video Search at http://www.video.google.com/ Searches for "bolide" and "fireball" produced nothing of interest (assuming you don't care for clips of things that "blow up good"!), but a search for "meteor" produced several clips that actually were

[meteorite-list] oriented meteorites

2006-02-14 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!
Anyone of you can go to my website and look under my museum page and look at my 5 kilo campo.I'd say not only sculpted,but very oriented.The shape of an L.It also has it's own purch to sit very nicely. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Il

Re: [meteorite-list] Mike's Webpage

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Farmer
My website will be back up in a day, some issues with lost credit card forced it down and took some time to get it back up since I was in Las Vegas without a clue. Mike - Original Message - From: "Marcin Cimala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:29 PM Subject:

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Excellent Auctions - Some Museum Quality!

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Farmer
Then were did not get to Yuri Postov's room in time, he had at least 10 of them for sale at the beginning of Tucson show. Holes dont interest me much, so I just got the oriented ones. mike - Original Message - From: "Adam Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi List, I believe it is paired to others but mine came as an individual not broken from another piece as far as I can tell. Anyway you look at, this new Acapulcoite is one great looking meteorite, especially when polished to a mirror finish. Take Care, Adam

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread John Birdsell
Hi Adam...the classification write-up usually states whether it is likely paired to other meteorites. What did your write up state? If it is a complete individual, and it is paired to NWA 2656 and NWA 2714 and others, then I would think the TKW for this grouping must be over 7.5 kilos. Did the writ

AW: [meteorite-list] oriented meteorites

2006-02-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Humm, I don't know, in which direction this discussion is turning, but I have a ungood feeling. My English is bad. I thought always "oriented" is an elliptic or short form of "flight oriented". Of course one can state that everything (except a ball) is oriented. My finger is oriented in a geomet

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi John and List, As I stated in my auction, the nomenclature is provisional. I do not have an image of the whole stone but I do have a receipt stating the weight of 77 grams. As I mentioned in my auction, this weight was attributed to NWA 2989 only and not any other pairings. It was also mentione

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread John Birdsell
Hi Adam...We were just curious, because in your ebay ad you stated that you didn't have any accurate figures on the TKW of pairings, and yet, the TKW of ~7.5kg has been publicly available on the internet for months now, and in the Meteorite Bulletin data base it states the following: "[Provisiona

[meteorite-list] Oriented Photos

2006-02-14 Thread Bob Evans
I just love the oriented stones. I cant get enough of them. So if you have some for sale Im always a buyer. Here are a couple of the nicer oriented stones that I brought back from the Tucson show. 302 Gram with loads of flow lines : http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=/bddf&

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
John and List, I do not see why you are making such an example out of this because it happens all of the time but if any of you felt you were somehow mislead than I would be happy to give you a full refund. You only have to look at any dealers' websites to see the same problem with pairings. Nobod

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread stan .
for those that might be curious the mass of 2656 was broken into 'pieces' - as in 2 pieces. Nelson Oaks has one and I have the other, with a few slices being sold off here and there. If Adam's piece is paired then the bueaty of this stuff really cant be understated - it's gorgeous material. IF a

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread dean bessey
See John, The world works like this. Meteorite Rule #1 - The Hupes make the rules Meteorite Rule #2 - Rules can chage to suit the Hupes (But nobody elses) needs as the situation arises. In this case it is in Adam's interest to say the TKW is only 77 grams. And if somebody complains about using his

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Dean, If you have some personal beef with me take it off of the List. You are always jumping in with your idiotic comments which contribute absolutely nothing and make no sense to me. Why you would want to start a public fight is beyond me. Don't you have something more constructive to do? You wer

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Greg Hupe
Hey Dean, When you quote "Hupe's" you are attacking two people at once. Be more specific with your public posting or better yet, just keep it off list! You obviously have jumped into something just to jump in and mouth off. As the saying goes from the Great White North, "Take off, eh!" Best

[meteorite-list] Tucson '06 Wrap Up + Harvey Winners

2006-02-14 Thread Notkin
Dear Listees: Greetings all. Well, Steve Arnold and family hit the road yesterday morning with the big Brenham in tow, and the last few dealers were packing up and checking out of the InnSuites. It was a long show this year! I heard a few people say it was their favorite Tucson Show ever, and

[meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread John Birdsell
Hi Stan and thanks for your email. Ok, I think that this Acapulcoite TKW thing really needs to get nailed down before the next Met Bulletin comes out. Can everyone that has a significant amount of this material write us either on or off list so that we can add up all of the pieces and get the corre

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello list, To get back to the spirit of Bernd's e-mail. This NWA acapulcoite, a.k.a., NWA 2656, NWA 2714 and NWA 2989 (others?) is one of the better deals on the market right now. (And Blaine Reed I think has the best price). The meteorite is somewhat weathered and slices very in weathering

[meteorite-list] Recent Holbrook expedition

2006-02-14 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy/fossilalgae.com
Dear Mark, Dave, Mike and Bill; What is this I hear you were shown up at the field trip to the Holbrook strewnfield recently ? Well guys, shouldn't ah let a girl come alongleast THAT one ;-) DAve F. skunked at Holbrook __ Meteorite-list mailing lis

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Greg Hupe
Hi Mark, Thank you for the informative, well rounded and friendly email. Too bad some of the others could not behave in such a positive manner regarding this thread. Best regards, Greg - Original Message - From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread David Weir
John, If I'm correct I believe this ACA was also classified under the following two designations: NWA 2699 (1,294 g) and 2866 (213 g). I'm not sure where I got this info that they are all paired, but it's on my 2656 webpage so it must be true :) David ___

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Jim Strope
I got this slice in a trade from Blaine Reed under the NWA 2871 number which had a tkw of 3467grams. Blaine is not a list member. Sorry about the bad photos: http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa2871.htm Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com -

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear John and List, I applaud trying to nail down the TKW but as Stan stated NWA 2656 was divided among two owners. I was not supplied by either one of them. You claim NWA 2714 with a reported TKW of 100 grams according to NAU's documents was part of this same mass. Stan claims it was divided betw

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread stan .
Adam, Actually I was reffering to the roughly 7.5 kg being split between Nelson and myself. from the NAU website: "A 386 g broken stone with weathered fusion crust (part of a larger ~7.5 kg mass found in 2003) was purchased in Erfoud, Morocco in 2004 for N. Oakes, Oakes)" So I guess there

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Matt Morgan
Thanks for posting Jim. This is sweet material folks and is probably the best aca to come out of NWA, that I have seen. To plug 2871, I have a few small pieces left under 10g for ~40/g. Thinly sliced and clearly show the olivine and plagioclase crystals. Matt Morgan Jim Strope wrote: I got th

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread stan .
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9050/nwa265623gw.jpg lol the tkw game gets even more confusing. Jim's slice came off oy *MY* piece and my piece was the smaller of two pieces that made up the 7.5kg stone mentioned in 2656. so if the TKW for 2656 is considered to be the 300 or so gram orignal

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Re: Jim noted, "I got this slice in a trade from Blaine Reed under the NWA 2871 number which had a tkw of 3467 grams." http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa2871.htm As par for you Jim, very awesome slice. I mistyped my last e-mail, my slice is NWA 2871. At 2.2 grams it is much smaller then Ji

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
It is amazing to see "professional" dealers lowering there prices on this Acapulcoite in response to this string. A hint, if you are going to piggyback somebody else's sales, use the word "Ad" or "Sale" in the header instead of sneaking in a sales pitch which I find distasteful. Al the best, Adam

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread John Birdsell
Hi Adam. Yes, we completely understand your confusion over all of the different TKW's reported. That is why we are attempting to clarify this issue once and for all. The important thing to note is that the TKW now stands at over 10kg. NAU's website will eventually need to be corrected as will the p

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi John, This does not explain why you had no weight listed at all on your web-site according to the cached version in google.com which is only one day old if you knew there was 1,666 grams plus a 7.5 kilogram stone. You asked me to back up my claims with pictures and said you were curious becaus

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread Kashuba, Ontario, California
Here are some quick thin section pictures of NWA 2871 Acapulcoite (NWA 2989, 2656, 2714, 2866, 2699). http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_NWA_2871_Acapulcoite.html John Kashuba Ontario, California __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread John Birdsell
Dear Adam. Please stop trying to place the blame for your problems elsewhere. If you had read our website before we updated it, we clearly stated that "NWA 2714 comes from the same ~7.5 kilo stone as NWA 2656." This is what the classifying scientist stated in his write up. We didn't tell him that,

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe
John and List, This string is getting old. I have not updated my auctions and did not pretend to know about all of the pairings. I stated these exact phrases in my auctions: "Since it's publication a few more have come out of Oman and Northwest Africa including the pairings to this one." "A Tota

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

2006-02-14 Thread John Birdsell
Yes Adam...whatever you say... Hey Dean, I think this must correspond to your Rule #3, what do you think? Cheers -John --- Adam Hupe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John and List, > > This string is getting old. I have not updated my > auctions and did not > pretend to know about all of th

Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite

2006-02-14 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
--- MARK BOSTICK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > I bought a thin section of the acapulcoite NWA 1054 > (paired?) in Tucson and > was surprized at how small the mineral crystals are > in acapulcoites when I > got it under the scope at home. The matrix appears > much finer then other > a

Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Videos

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