AW: [meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-22 Thread Jörn Koblitz
Hello Tim, There are 62 hexahedrites known to date. Please notice that not all IIAB irons are hexahedrites (many are coarsest octahedrites, Ogg) and that not all hexahedrites are IIAB irons (there are a few hexahedrites of taxonomic group IIG known). Regards, Jörn Koblitz / MetBase

Re: [meteorite-list] Define shock value

2006-08-22 Thread R. N. Hartman
Please see my article Some Fundamentals of Common Chondrite Classification in Meteorites 101 archived in Meteorite Times. Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: Walter L. Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:34 AM Subject:

[meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-22 Thread bernd . pauli
Jörn kindly wrote: There are 62 hexahedrites known to date. Please notice that not all IIAB irons are hexahedrites (many are coarsest octahedrites, Ogg) and that not all hexahedrites are IIAB irons (there are a few hexahedrites of taxonomic group IIG known). Hello Jörn, Tim, Ken, and List,

Re: [meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Anne, I guess you don't have that attractive mini Coahuila specimen any more since you didn't mention it :-( !!! I've seen several big slices of this hexahedrite IIAB (IIA according to Jeff's database is the official MetBase classification) recently being sold recently. Also, Blaine had a

AW: [meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-22 Thread Alexander Seidel
Hi Jörn, first of all sincere congrats to you for winning the Meteoritical Society Service Prize 2006 - truly deserved for what you have achieved in the field of meteoritics as one of the few first really dedicated early modern times [..i.e. pre-internet, since the early Eighties :-)] private

AW: [meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Not to forget Boguslavka! One of the only 6 observed falls and, as observed iron falls are rare, with its 256kg the second largest iron fall behind Sikhote-Alin. Only 2 pieces felt and they fit together. Both are exhibited in the famous Fersman-Musum in Moscow. Picture here:

[meteorite-list] 10 anniversary

2006-08-22 Thread marcin
Hello I near forgot that this month my page www.meteoryt.net end's 10 years ! :) This was first, big true web page about meteorites in Poland. I hope it will survive another 50years too -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there? HELP NEEDED with pictures

2006-08-22 Thread Tim Heitz
I want to thank all of you, Bernd, Jörn,Ken, Herman,MexicoDoug and Anne for the information provided. So far what I believe is there are 62 hexahedrites and not all are (IIAB) The other few hexahedrites other than (IIAB) are the hardest to find I have not seen an example of a (IIG) yet. I

[meteorite-list] FW: AUCTIONS ENDING TODAY 130+

2006-08-22 Thread michael cottingham
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AW: AW: Re-3: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
A fascinating idea! Brilliant theory, Matthias! The Celts were beer brewers, Corma, they called it and drafted it already from wooden barrels, as the Bavarians do. Remember until the beginning of 20th century the beer was dark. Why? If we imagine, that cometary matter contains much

Re: [meteorite-list] Arizona's Meteor Crater: A Big Bang For Your Buck

2006-08-22 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Dear List, E.P.; The $15 adult visitor fee makes my visit a few years ago at $9 seem a bargain! It would be interesting to know how MUCH they think a hunt of the crater meteorite strewn/debris field would bring. Best, Dave F. IMCA #3864 E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi Ron, list - Anybody got

AW: AW: Re-3: [meteorite-list] Moss Meteorite From A Comet?

2006-08-22 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Hello Martin List, so that seems to be the reason for the unreachable front-position of Bavaria, compared with all the other, less developed German regions: the Gold of the Black Bav ..., ahm, sorry: the Black Gold of the Bavarian Celts! Actually I always took that as a term for the strong

Re: [meteorite-list] trade offer for micro/macro meteorites

2006-08-22 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Geidam is not GeidamDhofar 005 rare??? Matteo --- Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Good morning list.I am putting together a nice collection of RARE,RARE micro/macro metorites for my collection.Here I am offering in trade.GEIDAM,14 gram slice (witness

Re: [meteorite-list] Comets as meteorite source: another comet sample

2006-08-22 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Ed, All, Frank T. Kytedidsupposedly find a piece of the Chicxulub impactor in a core sample. His research, however, indicated that thefragment that he discoveredwas not cometary, but asteroidal in composition. He determined it to be either CV, CR, or CO. See:

Re: [meteorite-list] Comets as meteorite source: another comet sample

2006-08-22 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Ed, All, I have my doubs about that (noreal proof yet...), but in any case, even assuming that they are burned out comets, you should be making a clear distinction between the snowballs of the outer solar system and the burned out cometary asteroids of the inner solar system. They're

Re: [meteorite-list] New Quiz

2006-08-22 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Christian, All, Any chance that could be the large individual of Steinbach found a while ago? Regards, Jason On 8/21/06, Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all,a new Quiz is on time !Just a break for the boring Plutons List That's it:It is located in

[meteorite-list] Meteorites in the Theater

2006-08-22 Thread MexicoDoug
(This didn't go through the first time, so I am modifying the spelling of a peculiar word that might be the reason. Warning!Meteorite related; Levity alert.) Hello Listees: Saturday night I somehow ended up inthe movie theater. It was a craps shot: too late for anything with an

[meteorite-list] Fukang

2006-08-22 Thread Joseph Murakami
Just a neat pix of Fukang pallasite I found on this site: http://dolphingaze.blogspot.com/2006/01/work.html Joseph Honolulu __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] Lunar Burn

2006-08-22 Thread Meteorite Game
What color would a lunar meteor give off in the atmosphere? If I'm not mistaken their basalt?Could a probability factor be given to pass and future meteors showing the probability of a meteor beinglunar?With a high probability factor would this notaid meteorite hunters to make a recovery

Re: [meteorite-list] Kalkaska info anyone?

2006-08-22 Thread G. Nicula
I wasn't aware of the abundance of information available online. Now that i've thoroughly read the responses, i think i'm all set. Thanks everyone for your feedback. George Nicula - Original Message - From: McLean, Howard L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar Burn

2006-08-22 Thread Chris Peterson
The color produced by a meteor is primarily a product of the ionization of atmospheric gases. You might learn something about the composition of the object spectroscopically, but such measurements are difficult and rare. Simply using color reported by witnesses is of no value in assessing

[meteorite-list] Meteorites????

2006-08-22 Thread Michael
I'm new to hunting for meteorites. I found a magnetic rock and from what I understand this could be a meteorite but I would like some input from y'all. Go to http://www.ladyofgreys.org/meteorites.htm and please let me know if there is another explanation for a rock being magnetic and so on

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites????

2006-08-22 Thread Chris Peterson
Nothing there looks like a meteorite. Iron is commonly found in rocks, often in high enough concentrations to make them quite attractive to magnets. Where I live, it is an unusual rock that _doesn't_ show some magnetic qualities. Chris * Chris L

AW: [meteorite-list] How many Hexahedrites are there?

2006-08-22 Thread Jörn Koblitz
Dear Alex, Thank you for the flowers. It's really a great honor to have received this first Service Award of the Meteoritical Society at the MetSoc 2006 Meeting in Zurich. The MetBase 8.0 release should be ready in a few months from now, hopefully End of October. It's correct that the

AW: [meteorite-list] Lunar Burn

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Altmann
I guess green, cause the receptors in our eyes are most sensitive for this colour. Buckleboo! Martin Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Meteorite Game Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. August 2006 00:08 An:

[meteorite-list] Plutons, Planets and Dwarves - Geologists and Astronomers Wrangle Over Words

2006-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060821/full/060821-4.html Plutons, planets and dwarves Geologists and astronomers wrangle over words. Geoff Brumfiel nature.com 21 August 2006 On 16 August the International Astronomical Union (IAU) floated a proposal for a definition of the word 'planet', in

[meteorite-list] 6.3 kilo Fukang- sale ad

2006-08-22 Thread bob cucchiara
Hi List, I have a 6.3 kilo Fukang block cut for sale on consignment. A serious collector specimen or a great dealer piece for cutting for resale. My sources indicate to me that this is the last large specimen available for sale on the market. Any reasonable offer wont be refused. Photos available

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites????

2006-08-22 Thread Norm Lehrman
Michael, Nothing in your photos looks remotely suspicious. Most look to be stream-rounded quartzite pebbles. Disseminated magnetite is the likely culprit. Some of today's magnets are just too good. I've put away my big hard-drive monster that will pull nails out of fences and opted for a

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Lunar Burn

2006-08-22 Thread cviau
We are more sensitive to green, that is true, but does not the emmision of green spectra in a burning object mean that there is some form of copper in it? CharlyV I guess green, cause the receptors in our eyes are most sensitive for this colour. Buckleboo! Martin

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Lunar Burn

2006-08-22 Thread Mr EMan
Copper does excite to green however in this case the source is more likely nickel Elton --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are more sensitive to green, that is true, but does not the emmision of green spectra in a burning object mean that there is some form of copper in it? CharlyV I

[meteorite-list] New Quiz - the solution

2006-08-22 Thread Christian Anger
Hi all again, it is iron slag from Austria, displayed at the entrance of the Ragga Canyon in Flattach, Carinthia, Austria. here's a pic with the description of the iron. www.austromet.com/trips/xxx3.jpg Sign says iron slag from the melt ovens of melt-huts (Schmelzhütten) melt-huts

[meteorite-list] color of lunar meteors

2006-08-22 Thread Randy Korotev
I suspect that for most meteors, the incandescent material is so hot that most of the light is from black body radiation, not electronic emission. If so, then the composition is irrelevant. http://www.egglescliffe.org.uk/physics/astronomy/blackbody/bbody.html I really don't know the

[meteorite-list] What is this lunar crater?

2006-08-22 Thread Darren Garrison
Anyone have a name/location for the crater in the photo with this article, where the meteoid apparently skidded across the surface, and maybe bounced once? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0509_020509_glassmeteorite.html __ Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this lunar crater?

2006-08-22 Thread bernd . pauli
Anyone have a name/location for the crater in the photo with this article, where the meteoroid apparently skidded across the surface, and maybe bounced once? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0509_020509_glassmeteorite.html Hello Darren and List, These are Messier and Messier

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this lunar crater?

2006-08-22 Thread Rob McCafferty
Not familiar with this one, however, I cannot help but think that it's really unlikely that a meteorite is going to bounce. Almost certainly 2 separate craters My personal favourite low angle impact crater is Schiller http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiller_(crater) To the best of my knowledge,

[meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2

2006-08-22 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello List, and Hello, .. especially to those who purchased one of Greg's NWA 4441 CO3.2, My 5.1-gram endcut of this CO3.2 arrived this morning and my first impression was: Oh, one of those Hot Desert ugly ducklings! But I was curious what it would look like under my Russian stereo scope and

[meteorite-list] World Class Holbrook - 1, 950 grams with Ward Label

2006-08-22 Thread bernd . pauli
Words can't do it justice, ... so go and look !!! http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-WORLD-CLASS-HOLBROOK-1-950-grams_W0QQitemZ200018592126QQihZ010QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Bernd Saliva __ Meteorite-list mailing list

RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2

2006-08-22 Thread Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge
Hi Bernd, hi list, I would like to see an image. I like to see how it compares to my find. Danke and thank you, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 4441- CO3.2 Date: 22 Aug 2006 20:36:28 UT Hello List, and Hello, .. especially

[meteorite-list] In search of the origins of meteor showers and meteorites (Prague)

2006-08-22 Thread MexicoDoug
Prague, IAU meteting. Check out the breweries in the IAU's official exclusive conference tourist program: ( http://www.astronomy2006.com/tourist-program.php ). Luckily most talks are done twice to allow for conflicts at the Prague mtg. The post conference exclusive IAU tours to Bohemian

[meteorite-list] re: Lunar Burn

2006-08-22 Thread Marco Langbroek
In a meteoric fireball, it is more likely atmospheric oxygen. - Marco Copper does excite to green however in this case the source is more likely nickel Elton --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are more sensitive to green, that is true, but does not the emmision of green spectra in a

[meteorite-list] Devil's advocate

2006-08-22 Thread Rob McCafferty
If Pluto crosses the orbit of Neptune (which it does) then one has to ask if Neptune is a planet since it hasn't cleared its orbit of debris. Surely Pluto counts as pretty significant debris if we're stll asking whether it's a planet or not!? Why does humanity insist on discernable boundaries

Re: [meteorite-list] Devil's advocate

2006-08-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:43:31 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: If Pluto crosses the orbit of Neptune (which it does) then one has to ask if Neptune is a planet since it hasn't cleared its orbit of debris. Surely Pluto counts as pretty significant debris if we're stll asking whether it's a planet or not!?

[meteorite-list] Planetary Definition Showdown!

2006-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.space.com/adastra/adastra_planet_def_060822.html Planetary Definition Showdown! As Debate Rages, One Astronomer Says 'It's All About the Atmosphere' By George Whitesides National Space Society 22 August 2006 The biggest astronomical debate of the young millennium culminates this

[meteorite-list] Pluto Seems Poised to Lose Its Planet Status

2006-08-22 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/22/science/space/22cnd-pluto.html Pluto Seems Poised to Lose Its Planet Status By DENNIS OVERBYE New York Times August 22, 2006 Pluto was looking more and more like a goner today as astronomers meeting in Prague continued to debate the definition of a planet. I

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this lunar crater?

2006-08-22 Thread G. Nicula
Short blurb on Messier and Messier A with a nice hi-res link. http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-362/ch5.2.htm George Nicula - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:14 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites????

2006-08-22 Thread Gerald Flaherty
I have to agree with Chris, Michael. And he just saved you the cost of sending any of these to a lab for confirmation. Unfortunately for me, I was unaware of the extertise available on this list, so I spent time, effort and money sending rocks like these to a lab. Lots of terrestrial rocks ARE

Re: [meteorite-list] Devil's advocate

2006-08-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, The answer is: the Gang of Eight Planets like Neptune, which is the key planet in Julio Fernandez's (the author of the alternative definition) theory of solar system formation, and too many or too big Plutonians makes his theory look, well, WRONG, so they don't like Pluto and the KBO's,

Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Lean Toward Eight Planets

2006-08-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All, Give credit (here on the List anyway) to Darren, who pointed out the confusion of terms days before the geologists started squawking about having their word stolen to settle somebody else's quarrel. Plutonian object was the least unpopular choice. I've been using the term

Re: [meteorite-list] Devil's advocate

2006-08-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Compared to Jupiter, the WHOLE solar system is nothing but debris. Why not ONE planet? Easy definition, short list to memorize... Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob

Re: [meteorite-list] Devil's advocate

2006-08-22 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Gee, that seems logical and easy too. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rob McCafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Devil's

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto Seems Poised to Lose Its Planet Status

2006-08-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Dr. Pasachoff said. But someone pointed out that this definition will hold for all time and that it is more important to get it right. All time? Is that all way up to the heat death of universe? Scientists of the future will care no more about our definitions than we worry about what

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - August 23, 2006

2006-08-22 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/August_23.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] What is this lunar crater?

2006-08-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - As Bess taught Harry to say, Horse Manure. Schultz has replied to Melosh several times, and will do so again. Schultz et al have conducted several more field expeditions to Rio Cuarto, with further analysis of samples. The Maya were quite specific about what hit - GI, GII, GIII, and

[meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]

2006-08-22 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Chris, list I have seen two entrie. I believe I posted the first one to the list, and it was green - at the time I was in Virgina, and the entry was so green I first thought that it either had to be a)an accidental launch warhead entry (which I stopped thinking when nothing exploded), or b)

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Entry Burn [was Lunar Burn]

2006-08-22 Thread Chris Peterson
There are only a limited number of meteor spectra, so the colors aren't real well understood, but I'd be surprised if you saw the nickel emission over the atmospheric oxygen. The majority of slow, bright meteors are reported as green by many witnesses, but only a small fraction of those

Re: [meteorite-list] Norway again?

2006-08-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All, Back on July 19, in a post about my (oddly) correct weight guess for the Moss meteorite, I said: But don't worry. If things are on schedule, Norway should have another big daylight detonator in about five weeks, just like the last pair... Don't they always come in three's?