Re: [meteorite-list] Entry Dynamics in Peru

2007-10-05 Thread mexicodoug
Hi Sterling, my brief comments are inserted in your text in all lower case, Hola, Doug, I think the variety of reports I've already posted and then referred to several times, are all that I can say to your dislike for my reconstruction of the event. I confess to being somewhat mystified by

Re: [meteorite-list] Entry Dynamics in Peru

2007-10-05 Thread mexicodoug
Hi Sterling, my brief comments are inserted in your text in all lower case, Hola, Doug, I think the variety of reports I've already posted and then referred to several times, are all that I can say to your dislike for my reconstruction of the event. I confess to being somewhat mystified by

Re: [meteorite-list] Post from Randall

2007-10-05 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
True, Martin: pigs are still pigs in Peru, and Randall and Mike both seem to be incapable of settling conflicts without resorting to tattletale cop-calling. Of course, people resorting to the illegitimate authority of police often need to be policed (as in Mike's alleged disturbances of cultural

Re: [meteorite-list] Post from Randall

2007-10-05 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Thaddeus, Dollars in their thongs... Is that a scholarly reference? Literary, perhaps? Do you have Polaroids? Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Thaddeus Besedin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday,

Re: [meteorite-list] Post from Randall

2007-10-05 Thread mexicodoug
Hi Martin! Wrong country ! You must mean Harry Steele vs. Dr. Stanley Moorehead? I highly recommend that 1954 movie to those who have somehow missed it ! Have a really Monze Day!, Doug - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Entry Dynamics in Peru

2007-10-05 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, there is no reliable basis to discount the probability of bona fide fragments in the crater, Yes! Mike said the upper dirt walls of the crater had many fragments embedded in them and the locals picked them all out of the dirt (before he could get to them, I suspect). witness evidence of

Re: [meteorite-list] Post from Randall

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Altmann
I wouldn't say that. There is a good guy and there is one of ambivalent state of mind, whose greed drives him into paranoia. One will be dead at the end, like all others driven by greed, the other will laugh, but the object of desire will be gone with the wind. (and only grumpy grampa get the

[meteorite-list] Thaddeus, call me names in private please

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Thaddeuas, pitiful statement, you are on this list, whether for scientific (I really doubt because of the language you use) or collector desires (which I also doubt, since I provide many of the meteorites that fall these days), or lastly just to cause trouble, which seems to be the case, since in

[meteorite-list] Please Read: from the List Admin

2007-10-05 Thread Art
Good Morning List; I'm adding a new policy to the List as it seems to have become an issue recently: Please do not post emails for someone else to the List. If a user is having problems posting it is usually because - 1) they are formatting their emails incorrectly, or 2) They are not allowed

[meteorite-list] Test post - General List Policies

2007-10-05 Thread Dr. Richard Daniels
General List Policies Posts need to relate -in some way- to meteorites Be courteous and professional at all times Please include the 'subject' of the post in the subject box Send emails in text format, not -HTML- Do not send emails with -file attachments- to the list - include a file link Make

[meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite altitude.

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Farmer
The three of us who went to Peru GPS'd the Carancas meteorite crater, and all three came up with the same altitude, 3,792 meters. It should now be the highest meteorite found. This is ~11,900 feet. I know it was a tad difficult to breath up there. Michael Farmer Ps, I am working on a webpage

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 1-5, 2007

2007-10-05 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES October 1-5, 2007 o Ulysses Patera (Released 01 October 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071001a o Uranius Patera (Released 02 October 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071002a o Biblis Patera (Released 03 October 2007) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071003a

[meteorite-list] Peru meteorite pics?

2007-10-05 Thread mmorgan
Maybe I missed in in the plethora of posts, but what does the actual meteorite look like? Any pics? Matt -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ Meteorite-list mailing

[meteorite-list] Meteorites and sulfurous odors

2007-10-05 Thread Piper R.W. Hollier
Hello list, Ordinary chondrites generally contain around 2% troilite (iron sulfide, FeS); the thin section made of the Carancas meteorite shows even more, around 5%. Troilite dissociates at high temperatures (e.g. a hypersonic impact), releasing hot sulfur vapor, which in turn will oxidize in

[meteorite-list] Mysterious Object Falls From Minnesota Sky

2007-10-05 Thread Mike Groetz
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=4534957version=3locale=EN-USlayoutCode=TSTYpageId=3.2.1 Mysterious Object Falls From Minnesota Sky Reports of metallic object and flaming ball falling from sky Last Edited: Wednesday, 03 Oct 2007, 4:20 PM CDT Created:

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite crater

2007-10-05 Thread ensoramanda
Hi, I have some new more detailed photos of the crater just sent to me ...will try and get them somewhere with a link...soon Rob McCafferty wrote: I remember doing calculations at university to estimate the size of an impact crater and for a rock maintaining it's cosmic velocity, it tends

[meteorite-list] Thin Sections, Thanks and Meteorite

2007-10-05 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my questions earlier this week about thin sections. I know it takes time from your busy schedules to respond, sometimes in depth, to questions and I appreciate your sharing your knowledge. I now have a greater awareness and

Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections, Thanks and Meteorite

2007-10-05 Thread bernd . pauli
Walter wrote: I also read Lets Go, Correo by Robert Woolard. If you love reading meteorite hunting stories (without all the name calling, etc) you will LOVE this one. .. and the cow milk episode :-)) Hilarious!! Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections, Thanks and Meteorite

2007-10-05 Thread Walter Branch
.. and the cow milk episode :-)) Hilarious!! yes, Bernd, unbelievable! -Walter - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections, Thanks and

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas

2007-10-05 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Judging from the Farmer photo, which showed a house in the distance, and the newspaper report that that house had been hit by fragments, two points come to mind: first, the local strewnfield is extensive, and may yield small pieces for years, and two, Sterling's comment on back

Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections, Thanks and Meteorite

2007-10-05 Thread Mike Jensen
Hi all The Cow milk story reminds me of some dialog from an episode of The Simpson's cartoon on Fox. Homer: Are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon? Lisa: No. Homer: Ham? Lisa: No. Homer: Pork chops? Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal. Homer: Heh

[meteorite-list] let me just share this graph

2007-10-05 Thread Metorman46
Thanks Doug; This graph is very useful for future reference.Great job thanks for sharing.There is some very informative posts coming out of the carancas fall.What an event!Record breaking probably.Meteoritically speaking.Thanks to all posters on this event and the calculations

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and sulfurous odors

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Piper, I would exclude, at least that dust from chondrites or from irons (with big troilites) would cause such symptoms, else the meteorite dealers, who daily handle and cut meteorites of all types, wouldn't be able to take part so vividly in the discussions on the list here(or may that be the

[meteorite-list] Actlabs - Peru (thin sections of the Lake Titicaca meteorite)

2007-10-05 Thread Dr. Richard Daniels
For those of you unfamiliar with Actlabs. http://www.actlabsint.com I have a contact in the Peru branch. I'll see if we can expedite shipping a sample to the headquarters in Canada. I think a 57 gram piece would provide a lot of thin sections. Randall

[meteorite-list] Photographs

2007-10-05 Thread Dr. Richard Daniels
Please include the name of the photographer when using pictures. Copyright laws apply. Regards, Randall __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad Brenham Meteorite $5 Silver Cook Islands Coin Sale

2007-10-05 Thread Mike Jensen
Hi All I just received some of the really beautiful Brenham meteorite coins that were developed by Mark Bostick. These are limited to 2500 coins just like the first in the series and those quickly sold out. It now sells for over $400 per coin if you can find it. So don't miss your chance to pick

[meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca meteorite - Central Information Repository

2007-10-05 Thread Dr. Richard Daniels
Just a suggestion, maybe we can link up with the Bolivian researchers. I had the pleasure to meet Ing. Pedro P. Miranda Loza, Physicist and Director of the Max Schreir Planetarium located in La Paz, Bolivia while I was at the crater. They were the first to publish reports on the analysis of the

[meteorite-list] Boiling (?) water in Carancas crater

2007-10-05 Thread Piper R.W. Hollier
Hello list, Thanks for the reactions both public and private to my posting to the list about sulfur dioxide at Carancas. This thread has also given me a new idea about the boiling water in the crater. Yes, it may have been the obvious: ground water raised to the boiling point by impact

[meteorite-list] Meteorites and sulfurous odors

2007-10-05 Thread Mike Fowler
Regarding the reports you mentioned about historic falls, I wouldn't take the assertions there to seriously. As we all know, meteorites fall cold, but nevertheless the old reports tells the stone was to hot to tuch, it glowed 3 days, the ground was hot and so on... Best! Martin Hi

[meteorite-list] Now if they can just help find my keys...

2007-10-05 Thread Darren Garrison
http://in.news.yahoo.com/071005/139/6ll7d.html Long-lost 'Potentially Hazardous Asteroid' re-located By ANI Friday October 5, 04:16 PM Washington, Oct 5 (ANI): Astronomers have found that the recently discovered Earth threatening asteroid 2007 RR9 is in fact the long lost object 6344 P-L

[meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca meteorite - thin sections

2007-10-05 Thread Dr. Richard Daniels
I just sent a e-mail to Actlabs in Canada requesting information on thin sections with priority service. I hope to send them a 57 gram specimen. I hope to get a response from them soon. Any valid researcher desiring a thin section can contact me off list. I don't know right now what the price will

[meteorite-list] Pic of Farmer with Police at the Peru Crater.

2007-10-05 Thread McCartney Taylor
In a pic, this tells the story. Mike is there, police don't care. http://filer.livinginperu.com/news/img/farmer_meteor_s.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca meteorite - thin sections

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Goodbye. --- Dr. Richard Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just sent a e-mail to Actlabs in Canada requesting information on thin sections with priority service. I hope to send them a 57 gram specimen. I hope to get a response from them soon. Any valid researcher desiring a thin

Re: [meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca meteorite - thin sections

2007-10-05 Thread Don Rawlings
Don't let the door hit you in the backside, skippy. Most of us have grown weary of your crap a long time ago. Don --- Dr. Richard Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just sent a e-mail to Actlabs in Canada requesting information on thin sections with priority service. I hope to send them a

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites and sulfurous odors

2007-10-05 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Mike, that's the debate, as old as the list itself. And I have the advantage simply to state: They are cold. Why I can be so bold? Because nobody can evidence the opposite. The dilemma is, that nobody involved in meteoritics will ever attend a meteorite fall, so we will always be thrown back

Re: [meteorite-list] Boiling (?) water in Carancas crater

2007-10-05 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi Piper, I've been thinking about the boiling water and might have another explanation or two. First if this hit the ground faster than terminal velocity, I think that air could have been compressed under the specimen and is slowly bubbling out under as the water reacts to erode around the

Re: [meteorite-list] Lake Titicaca meteorite - thin sections

2007-10-05 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Randall, List, Wearily, to set the record straight: 1. I am not a dealer of meteorites. I buy'em; I don't sell'em. I was at one time an antiques dealer, but sold nothing as old as meteorites. 2. I did receive a List email from you with an active running script in it. I don't know what

[meteorite-list] Fw: Brenham Meteorite Coins Now Available

2007-10-05 Thread Floyd \Griff\ Griffith
Hello and good day Mark I got my coins today. Really cool . The sky is amazing. What a cool effect. I have not seen a sky like that before. Again, great job. The coins look great even though you did not get the buffalo. Thanks. Best to you, Griff Parker, Colorado, U.S.A. IMCA 2510

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Brenham Meteorite Coins

2007-10-05 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Thanks for your comments Griff. It was nice seeing you again in Denver. The sky is amazing. What a cool effect. I have not seen a sky like that before. The sky is palladium plated. Palladium is a precious metal that sells for around $360 an oz., up about $10 this last week. On the coin, if

[meteorite-list] Peru going nuts, police being investigated.

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Farmer
http://www.andina.com.pe/NoticiaDetalle.aspx?id=144455 Above is the newest article that came out today in Peru, and I just did nother one hour interview with another news firm in Peru. I guess they should think again before threatening and robbing people like me. I fight back. Here is the

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Brenham Meteorite Coins

2007-10-05 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:51:24 -0500, you wrote: Thanks for your comments Griff. It was nice seeing you again in Denver. The sky is amazing. What a cool effect. I have not seen a sky like that before. The sky is palladium plated. Palladium is a precious metal that sells for around $360 an

[meteorite-list] A Shawnee tradition of the Holocene Start Impacts

2007-10-05 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - I hope you will bear with me here, as I need to make a record of this Shawnee tradition of the Holocene Start Impacts. It comes from Albert S. Gatschet's manuscript, which was not available to me when I assembled Man and Impact in the Americas, and so this tradition was not included in

Re: [meteorite-list] let me just share this graph

2007-10-05 Thread mexicodoug
Hi Herman, Glad it could be helpful, and also would like to thank your for the always positive comments and attitude you have on the list. I prefer the graph I already posted, but I got a private email that it was a nice graph, but...but one had to stand on their head to read it best. So

Re: [meteorite-list] A Shawnee tradition of the Holocene Start Impacts

2007-10-05 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, E.P., List, E.P. writes: ...After this the Good Mind created the first man and woman at the Buffalo Lick...may be identified with Big (Salt) Lick, just to the south of... Cincinnati, Ohio... This would put the spot where Humanity was created right on the site (or within a very few miles)

[meteorite-list] Collection Facelift and Website Update

2007-10-05 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
Recently I received 3 new spheres for my collection: Uruacu, Black Onaping one made from a brick from Nininger's Meteorite Museum. Of the 3, the Uruacu is my favorite but I'm really glad I was able to add an impact melt specimen to the shelf and I'm equally happy about the Nininger Sphere

Re: [meteorite-list] let me just share this graph

2007-10-05 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Doug, I am in sort of a rush since today is Monze Day. Are you flying to Monze for Lwiindi or just having your own New World Lwiindi? Whichever, I wish you much rain and bounteous maize! But, aren't we in the wrong axial hemisphere? Sterling K. Webb

Re: [meteorite-list] A Shawnee tradition of the Holocene Start Impacts

2007-10-05 Thread drtanuki
Ed, Sterling and List, Ed your interpretations of their myths and the other myths mentioning impacts (your belief-interpretation by adding [impact, comet, meteorite is sense-less]) have no bearing on fact or science. Even Holocene Start Impact is a belief and not a fact; Younger-Dryas group

[meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite crater...more detail and 116g piece

2007-10-05 Thread ensoramanda
Hi all, Just been sent these... Some quite detailed shots of the crater showing the strata and debris and less water in than most shots. Also a shot of a nice 116g piece...still cant tell if thats fusion crust or shock vein exposed...what do anyone else think?

[meteorite-list] Peru going nuts, police being investigated

2007-10-05 Thread Metorman46
WOW, it took me to go there to get them to begin to move, we will see how much longer it takes to dig out what is left of the meteorite, finally! Mike;Amazing meteorite diplomacy.You guys got the job done.I personally am glad it came out that way.You saved a possible large meteorite for

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite crater...more detail and 116g piece

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Notice how full of garbage the crater is? This is how Peru treats the crater, and you have to wonder why they wnet nuts over us trying to save the meteorite from destruction. Mike --- ensoramanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just been sent these... Some quite detailed shots of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite crater...more detail and 116g piece

2007-10-05 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:49:37 +0100, you wrote: http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/LaburnumStudio/CarancasCrater4.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/LaburnumStudio/CarancasCrater3.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/LaburnumStudio/CarancasCrater1.jpg Wow, look at all the

[meteorite-list] CARANCAS meteorite expedition pages up, enjoy!

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Ok list, I have been working all day, and finally am about finished. Here is the preliminary pages for the carancas meteorite fall. I will make some changes as I see the need, but this should feed your hunger for information and photos. Michael Farmer http://meteoriteguy.com/carancasfall.htm

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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 6, 2007

2007-10-05 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
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[meteorite-list] Peruvian police in deep now.

2007-10-05 Thread Michael Farmer
http://www.livinginperu.com/news/4853 Read this english story, then check out the photo I posted, who do you think it lying? check this out, the Peruvian police said I was not allowed into the crater, see the comment I just made below, it shows a link of me in the crater WITH THE POLICE! I

Re: [meteorite-list] A Shawnee tradition of the Holocene Start Impacts

2007-10-05 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Dirk - I suppose I'll just have to disagree with you on the physical evidence for the Holocene Start Impacts. Apparently the US National Academy of Science does as well, as they just published the team's research in their Proceedings. These myths were recorded not by the original peoples

Re: [meteorite-list] AD*: A Shawnee tradition of the Holocene Start Impacts

2007-10-05 Thread drtanuki
List and Ed, Continuing discussion follows EPG`s final question. E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:... Do you really want to stand by such a display of a lack of intelligence and sense, or do you wish to reconsider that statement?