[meteorite-list] THE CARANCAS PERU METEOROID IMPACT CALCULATIONS

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, List Dirk's suggestion of close aerial stereo pairs is the best suggestion in a while. It would not only permit measurements of the crater but it would map the ejecta blanket, the symmetry (or asymmetry) of which is an important datum. The impact excavated about 350+ cu. meters of soil and

[meteorite-list] International Spacestation Flyover

2007-10-07 Thread bernd . pauli
Another heads-up with regard to the ISS: A breathtaking image by Jerry Lodriguss in S T, Nov 2007, pp. 14-15: The ISS passing in front of the sun's disk and close to a sunspot group at the solar limb. Beautiful, so very beautiful !!! Bernd __

[meteorite-list] AD : some ebay auctions ending in a few hours

2007-10-07 Thread jim brady
Hello list Some of you may be interested in a few auctions I currently have running on ebay ending in the next few hours. SAU 001 --75gram individual with lots of fine flowlines still at about $2 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=320164652565 16 gram block cut of

[meteorite-list] QMIG update

2007-10-07 Thread Bob WALKER
Listoids Mini update http://www.qmig.org just to keep MB happy... Serendipitous (big word for the day) conversation today - snaffle a bunch of new small chondrites from Winton next Sunday Can't help but comment that it is great to get new finds in a less sensational way than some of the

[meteorite-list] PROPOSAL: THE CARANCAS CRATER PERU documentation: camera stereo-pair aerial photography FRM: Dirk Ross...Tokyo

2007-10-07 Thread drtanuki
---note: addresses of sent-to stripped (attached to bottom of this posting)resending to metlist (was sent to Peruvian, US, Canadian, and Chilean impact specialists and metlist (metlist bounce)-SORRY! Dear DRs., Sterling, and List Members, I apologize in advance for mailing several of

Re: [meteorite-list] Peru INGEMMET contact information for petitionofaerial photos and Carancas crater preservation

2007-10-07 Thread drtanuki
Dear Charlie, Thank you for your efforts! Hopefully with some encouragement they will act soon. It is to the benefit of the local peoples, Peru, science and the rest of us that care! Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote to both these email addys

[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 7, 2007

2007-10-07 Thread Metorman46
Michael and Michael; One picture says a thousand words,but this one may say more than one thousand.Thanks for sharing. Best Regards;Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com __

[meteorite-list] Comet Encke

2007-10-07 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, My apologies if this has been posted before but here is a neat movie of a coronal mass ejection ripping of the tail of comet Encke. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap071003.html -Walter Branch __

Re: [meteorite-list] THE CARANCAS PERU METEOROID IMPA CT CALCULATIONS

2007-10-07 Thread Jan Hattenbach
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: 07.10.07 09:27:54 An: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] THE CARANCAS PERU METEOROID IMPACT CALCULATIONS Hi Sterling, The north portion of the rim is higher than

Re: [meteorite-list] THE CARANCAS PERU METEOROID IMPACT CALCULATIONS

2007-10-07 Thread Michael Farmer
I am not a scientist, nor do I pretend to be, I just know the facts on the ground. EVERY witness said the meteorite came from the North, and the raised rim at the crater is on the north side. mike --- Jan Hattenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Sterling

[meteorite-list] More news from Peru, plan to dig up meteorite in one month.

2007-10-07 Thread Michael Farmer
http://www.andina.com.pe/NoticiaDetalle.aspx?id=144595 Below is my translation. Lima, Oct 7. In on emonth it will be possible to determine where the meteorite which fell on the community of Carancas , in the Puno district, during the middle of September, came from, estimated the president of

[meteorite-list] Fast or slow? the cheap and easy test

2007-10-07 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Simply go down into the crater and wade through the water, (considering the sewage, in hip boots or a skin divers suit) carrying an underwater metal detector. If a main mass or multiple large fragments are buried underneat, they should show up. THEN drasin the crater, photograph it,

Re: [meteorite-list] Fast or slow? the cheap and easy test

2007-10-07 Thread ensoramanda
Hi, I agree. The trouble is convincing the locals that in the long term it will not attract that many tourists...especially when the crater disappears in a few months time. The crater should have been documented as lots have others have said and then all efforts made to try and extract

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite..where to look for pieces!

2007-10-07 Thread ensoramanda
Hi all, Just found out where Mike, Moritz and Rob should have been looking for the Carancas pieces. Apparently, after the police spread the story of the meteorite possibly being dangerous...(or whoever that was) in order to get pieces given to them by the locals. Most of them got scared

[meteorite-list] AD: ebay auctions and Carancas Meteorite

2007-10-07 Thread Moritz Karl
Hi List, After finally getting home from our trip to Carancas I have had time to work up all the emails I have received. I finally also managed to add some new ebay auctions. - etched partslice of Cape York - partslice of Dar al Gani 400 (ALUN-A) - nice fragment with crust of Mocs - a slice with

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite..where to look for pieces!

2007-10-07 Thread Moritz Karl
In that case you would have to search the streets in that place since I recall that the streets and backyards and the river bed were mostly being used as the local dump. Sad to see something like that but it is true. See here: http://www.m3t3orites.com/meteorites/img/carancas/carancas01.jpg

Re: [meteorite-list] Peru INGEMMET contact information forpetitionofaerial photos and Carancas crater preservation

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Dirk, List, It appears from some of the news stories that the Geophysics Institute of Peru (IGP), whose name is sometimes given as the Instituto Astrofisica of Peru, and its president Ronald Woodman, is competing with INGEMMET to be the agency to control the investigation and excavate the

[meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite

2007-10-07 Thread Stefan Brandes
little video at the end of the story: http://spacefiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/carancas-meteorite-peru.html Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite...glassy spheres.

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Mike, They'd be TINY, one millimeter or less with a rare 2-3 millimeter one once in a while. You couldn't really search for them visually unless they had an odd color (which happens). Take some specimen jars with you, scoop up a small amount of powder, ejecta, without digging into the ground

Re: [meteorite-list] THE CARANCAS PERU METEOROID IMPACT CALCULATIONS

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Jan, List, I wish email allowed one to scribble little pencil diagrams with arrows and pointers in the margin! Then this would be so much easier! A heightened rim on one side can result from two different situations. One would be if the impactor came in a low angle from the south,

[meteorite-list] Thin Sections of Carancas Meteorite

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
The INGEMMET report at: http://www.ingemmet.gob.pe/paginas/pl01_quienes_somos.aspx?opcion=320 contains photos of four of the meteorites and three thin section photos, two of them polarized. Text in English. People who understand thin sections (not me) are invited to comment in reply, please.

[meteorite-list] Fw: International Spacestation Flyover

2007-10-07 Thread Jerry
This is a reminder for those interested and positioned at around 40deg. N lat and 70deg. W long Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: International Spacestation Flyover Oct 6, 2007 : Space

[meteorite-list] Carancas Thin sections

2007-10-07 Thread bernd . pauli
Sterling wrote: People who understand thin sections are invited to comment in reply Hi Sterling and List, Unfortunately these thin section pics are very low-resolution so it is hard to judge from these low-quality pictures. But let's try and others, like John Kashuba, are invited to chime in.

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas Thin sections

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Thanks, Bernd, The video in the link Stefan Brandes supplied: http://spacefiles.blogspot.com/2007/10/carancas-meteorite-peru.html shows a local resident holding a meteorite' under a magnifying glass -- a perfect grey metal sphere like a ball bearing -- so we know it contained free metal in

[meteorite-list] Carancas with slickensides?

2007-10-07 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello again, Please, take a close look (and enlarge if possible) Mike Farmer's picture (page 3, first picture) of the pieces he collected or acquired. Right below the largest fragment that weighs approximately 38 grams (according to Mike's own comment), there are three relatively large pieces in

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas with slickensides?

2007-10-07 Thread Darren Garrison
On 07 Oct 2007 21:47:22 UT, you wrote: Hello again, Please, take a close look (and enlarge if possible) Mike Farmer's picture (page 3, first picture) of the pieces he collected or acquired. Right below the largest fragment that weighs approximately 38 grams (according to Mike's own comment),

[meteorite-list] Re-2: Carancas with slickensides?

2007-10-07 Thread bernd . pauli
If you mean this one: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/peruspeck.jpg I've already asked Mike about it, and he says that it is the metallic nodule that he found (and not for sale). Yes, this one! Thanks for the info, Darren! Bernd __

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas with slickensides?

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Back on Oct. 3, Elton (Mr EMan) posted saying that the shock veins in Carancas were not shock veins but slickensides, and cited his reasons for thinking so. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[meteorite-list] How to document and preserve the crater at Carancas?

2007-10-07 Thread drtanuki
Dear Sirs: I am forwarding this message that I posted on the meteorite list and would like to ask you who to contact in Peru to help document (with aerial photographs) and preserve the Carancas crater. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] PROPOSAL: THE CARANCAS CRATER PERU documentation: camera stereo-pair aerial photography FRM: Dirk Ross...Tokyo

2007-10-07 Thread drtanuki
Dear DRs., Sterling, and List Members, I apologize in advance for mailing several of you DRs. a message in a public forum, but this is the most feasible means to expediently accomplish this request (some of you may be unaware of the context of this post; we are trying to document the recent

[meteorite-list] Was the Carancas meteorite Spinning?

2007-10-07 Thread Arizona Keith
If a large meteorite is spinning fast, having large ruff surface area, Can this cause the meteor to curve, when coming in contact with the atmosphere, like a curve ball in Baseball. Can a spinning meteor explain the difference in the Carancas meteorite original trajectory and impact

[meteorite-list] Randall joke on ebay!

2007-10-07 Thread ensoramanda
Ok...who is the one with the sense of humour after the carancas fragment on ebay...bidding here :-) Made me laugh anyway. http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=180167268481 __ Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Randall joke on ebay!

2007-10-07 Thread ensoramanda
Although I could be wrong...member since Feb...but with no activity whatsoever!!! ensoramanda wrote: Ok...who is the one with the sense of humour after the carancas fragment on ebay...bidding here :-) Made me laugh anyway. http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=180167268481

Re: [meteorite-list] Randall joke on ebay!

2007-10-07 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, A search of the user name on eBay US site turns up this less than detailed listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3810item=300158570494 Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: ensoramanda

[meteorite-list] Photoanalysis Software to Apply to Pictures of Peruvian Crater

2007-10-07 Thread Paul
Dear Friends, It would be fun to collect all of the pictures of the Peruvian meteorite crater, which have been published and apply the Photosynth photoanalysis software to them. More about Photosynth can be found at: http://labs.live.com/photosynth/ It stated: Our software takes a large

Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections of Carancas Meteorite

2007-10-07 Thread Rob Matson
Hi Sterling and List, The INGEMMET report at: http://www.ingemmet.gob.pe/paginas/pl01_quienes_somos.aspx?opcion=320 contains photos of four of the meteorites and three thin section photos, two of them polarized. Text in English. People who understand thin sections (not me) are invited to

Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections of Carancas Meteorite Chondritic or not

2007-10-07 Thread Mr EMan
As to what Rob has raised--I did see several chondrules in the photos. This looks much like the friable L;s we have seen and contains slickensides which would tend to make it a monomyct breccia. However these large metal blebs are intriguing and might make this an anomalous stone. I didn't see

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas meteorite..where to look for pieces!

2007-10-07 Thread Michael Farmer
Yes, it was a disgusting open sewer behind our hotel. Any meteorite thrown in there can stay there. Mike Farmer --- Moritz Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case you would have to search the streets in that place since I recall that the streets and backyards and the river bed were mostly