[meteorite-list] Meteorite Market 101

Original Message [meteorite-list] Meteorite Market 101 MexicoDoug at aol.com MexicoDoug at aol.com Fri Jun 11 17:30:20 EDT 2004 Hi Rob [Matson], Thanks for the welcome ... I am glad friends are still allowed to have different opinions and still be friends ... on the

[meteorite-list] Re: Humo(u)r 101

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Comparing Doug to J. Warren is as provocatively mean and sarcastic[snip] It is? Really? Moments after he posts "If I wanted to hear an asshole I would have farted"? You're aligning yourself with THAT, to oppose "meanness and sarcasm" on the list? Wow. I just

[meteorite-list] Legality of Libyan Desert Glass Artifacts Discussion

In a message dated 6/12/2004 2:21:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: professional archaeologists have made it very clear, contrary to you have claimed, me that even picking an LDG flake up off the shifting sandy desert floor and transporting it / exporting it without

[meteorite-list] An announcement from Joel Schiff

Joel Schiff, publisher of Meteorite Magazine, has asked me to forward the following. Dorothy Norton A meteorite weighing 1.3 kg crashed through the roof of a house in Auckland, New Zealand on Saturday morning 12 June. It looks to be an ordinary contrite with a gray matrix. Further

[meteorite-list] Libyan Desert Glass Sikhote-alin

This discussion about moral.. Just wondering. If anyone has a Sikhote-Alin meteorite in their collection, it too must have been smugled out of Russia. As far as I know they dont allow those meteorites to leave the country. Correct me if I am wrong. Best Lars Pedersen

RE: [meteorite-list] Legality of Libyan Desert Glass ArtifactsDiscussion

I sense a little(?) hypocrisy here. It would seem to me that archeologists have been the greatest looters of all time concerning artifacts.I haven't seen any reports of any of the major museums around the world scrambling to return the treasures taken out of other countries. Whether it

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter...Etc? Is it just because we have to point of reference or maybe distance...Just Curious! There was widespread belief that the Enstatite Chondrites originated within Mercury's orbit, if they weren't actually Mercurian themselves,

[meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite

Hi all, With regard to Joel Schiffs announcement of a meteorite fall today in New Zealand: there's a link to a press report with a picture of the stone at the Asteroid/Comet Connection website: http://www.hohmanntransfer.com/mn/0406/11.htm (look in the text box below the cover illustration for

Re: [meteorite-list] Sharklike Acrimonious Humo(u)r 101

Wow! I had always thought of Gregory (Mr. Sharkster) as one of the list's more benign creatures (unless provoked). I'm not aware of what you two had said to each other in private about Normandy or whatever, but I think the reply Doug gave him was quite uncalled for. F_rting and a__hole and

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins

The Enstatite Chondrite Neuschwanstein had its aphelion in the asteroid main belt, thus it's not related to Mercury. Here a picture of the orbit http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/raum/14785/1.html Martin - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite eBay Bidding Comment

Boy, I wonder if this thread is about me... :-) I agree with Gregory on this. Bid the max you're willing to pay. Sometimes when I'm at the edge of my budget I'll pass on a few auctions. Only to find later that no other bids were placed and that the item sold way under what I would have been

Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate

Keith wrote: I perfectly agree with you that there is ***nothing** illegal about picking up or collecting natural, unmodified pieces of LDG. My discussion had nothing to do with the collection of natural pieces of LDG. The only mention of this was that collecting of any kind in the area

Re: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite

Oh my god, what a gorgeous stone! Go get it Joel. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 2:10 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite Hi all, With regard to Joel Schiffs

Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate

WOW KEITH. YOU REALLY CANT GET YOUR THOUGHTS STRAIT. FIRST YOU MISQUOTE AND PUT WORDS INTO AN ARCHAELOGISTS MOUTH THAT HE NEVER SAID. AND NOW YOU ARE EVEN MISQUOTING YOURSELF. NOW YOU SAY: In this case, you are the person very confused about my arguments. I perfectly agree with you that there is

[meteorite-list] Add-ons to Pre-Meteorite sale, PTS.1,2 AND 3

Good morning list.I am adding a few specimens to the PRE-SUMMER meteorite sale I am having.I am sorry for not adding them before.So here goes: __ 1.FORREST 002 7.4 GRAMS $40.00 2.GOMES

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins

Hello Martin and list, Not saying Enstatites are from Mercury, it seems to me that they formed much further from the sun.but doesn't everything get kind of pushed into the asteroid belt? That was my understanding why there are still asteroids in the belts.they get replaced.Mark

Re: [meteorite-list] Sharklike Acrimonious Humo(u)r 101

Hello Dave and list, I guess it was about time for a little argument on the list. Since I am bored this saturday morning I will reply. Dave wrote: "but I think the reply Doug gave him was quite uncalled for. "F_rting" and "a__hole" and the such." I remember Doug (now) from Tucson When I was

Re: [meteorite-list] Legality of Libyan Desert Glass ArtifactsDiscussion Continu

Hello Keith and list, Keith also wrote, "my bread and butter geologic work involving finding sand, gravel, and road fill for companies; generating oil and gas prospects, which I can sell" I find it funny that you have an occupation, that a history of destroying both culture and environment and

[meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate

dean bessey wrote: FIRST YOU MISQUOTE AND PUT WORDS INTO AN ARCHAELOGISTS MOUTH THAT HE NEVER SAID. AND NOW YOU ARE EVEN MISQUOTING YOURSELF. NOW YOU SAY: I am not misquoting the archaeologist, as far as the potential illegal and unethical nature of trading and owning artifacts composed of

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins

Jo Mark, In my little world I have no idea whether at all orfrom which reservoir the asteroid belt could be filled up nowadays, only the comet cores, which were captured by Jupiter on short periodictracks, come into my mind. We have to ask the celestial mechanics on that list. Also the

Fw: [meteorite-list] Origins

Hi List, The probability of a meteorite originated from Mercury, being able to reach Earth (or Venus or Mars, for that matter), must beexceedingly small, as it wouldbe strongly attracted towards the Sun, unless its initial orbitwould be disturbed in such a way as to be "kicked out" by a

Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate

Dear Keith, LIST, So, archaeology ~smarkeology, lets get back to meteorite topics and stave this trouble making duck of what's seemingly become a personal agenda. Let the archaeology duck seek somewhere else to squawk and discharge waste product. Sincerely, Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate

Dean Keith, Perhaps the problem is the interpretation of the word, flake, as in picking up a flake of LDG... This can be interpreted as: 1) picking up any little bit 2) picking up a piece of flaked tool or piece of debutage made of LDG Best wishes, Michael on 6/12/04

Re: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite

Hi Marco All, Marco - I went to the URL site below and got the story, but no photo. I have two different browsers (Safari Explorer) and tried both to no avail. From Mike Farmer's reaction, my curiosity is peeked. know how I can see a photo of this stone? (Perhaps other list

[meteorite-list] Cassini Makes Close Observations of Phoebe

Carolina Martinez (818) 354-9382 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. News Release: 2004-146 June 12, 2004 Cassini Makes Close Observations of Phoebe With its flyby of Phoebe, the Cassini spacecraft has completed the first satellite flyby in its four-year

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite eBay Bidding Comment

Hi Mike, Just bid your highest bid the first time and forget it. If you win, you win. If you don't, via sniping or otherwise, well you weren't going to bid any higher anyway so what difference does it make whether the other person's bid was entered 10 hours, 10 minutes, or 10 milliseconds

RE: [meteorite-list] Legality of Libyan Desert GlassArtifactsDiscussion

in all fairness a muesum is a bit diffrent than a private collector. sure both my preserve a relic, however a muesume allows for it to be enjoyed by the public as a whole. afterall, what good is a relic if it's left burried in the ground so as to never allow us to learn from it, or apreciate

Re: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite

Hi Marco All, Marco - I went to the URL site below and got the story, but no photo. I have two different browsers (Safari Explorer) and tried both to no avail. From Mike Farmer's reaction, my curiosity is peeked. know how I can see a photo of this stone? (Perhaps other

Re: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite

Try this: http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3fformat=html http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/img/meteorite.jpg best, kn Michael L Blood wrote: Hi Marco All, Marco - I went to the URL site below and got the story, but no photo. I have two different browsers

[meteorite-list] List: Attention on virus W32/Zafi-B!

Attention List: VIRUS! I have been warned by my server that the e-mail sent to meteorite list by a GEMFRANCE under the subject Don't worry, be happy - is in fact infected with the virus W32/Zafi-B. So please, do NOT open it's attached file: www.ecard.com.funny picture.index.nude.php356.pif

Re: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite

Hello Michael and all, The link is hidden in the text below the picture. A better link for the photo of the meteorite follows: http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3fformat=html It looks like a real beauty...enjoy. Regards, Frank - Original Message - From: Michael L

Re: [meteorite-list] List: Attention on virus W32/Zafi-B!

Fortunately it was wiped out before I could have opened it! Hello José and List, I also got this message but did not open the attachment though she clearly and unambiguously wrote she still loved me :-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite--Hot Rock debate is back

A New Zealand newspaper reports: There was just a huge explosion and we looked around and there was just dust everywhere, says Brenda Archer. What they didn't expect to find was a very hot rock.--note a very hot rock. Would anyone who is in touch with the Archer's pursue this asspect in more

[meteorite-list] The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

So, you really think I'm "intrepid"? ;-)) Bob V. Listen here pardoner, A brutal California Sun, desert hot lips, calamari eyeballs from the systematic wandering about cemented mud curdled lakebeds at the lowest elevations (=hottest), more than ocassional furnace-like winds, brilliant white

[meteorite-list] Meteorites from Mercury

Peanut wrote: What about Mercury ... ? Gregory responded: There was widespread belief that the Enstatite Chondrites originated within Mercury's orbit, if they weren't actually Mercurian themselves ... Martin A. contributed: The Enstatite Chondrite Neuschwanstein had its aphelion in the

Re: [meteorite-list] Origins

I'm not sure where the idea came from that enstatite chondrites might be samples of Mercury. We know that Mercury has a large metallic core and an intrinsic magnetic field. Therefore, it must be differentiated. Surface material would be the silicate fraction of whatever chondritic precursor

Re: [meteorite-list] New Zealand meteorite--Hot Rock debate is back

Elton, the New Orleans fall fell several hours before the homeowner returned home, so that one had no chance of being felt. I bought a 1 kilo individual of Park Forest which fell through a home and smashed a printer, the homeowner was sitting at her computer 2 feet away! She picked up the stone

[meteorite-list] Origins

mhutson wrote: Enstatite chondrites contain a significant amount of metal and are undifferentiated (roughly solar in composition). Enstatite chondrites cannot be surface material from any large (planetary) object. .. that is why Burbine et al. propose this: If Mercury formed out of highly

[meteorite-list] Video re New Zealand event

Dear list, I can't download this 2 minute clip, but most listmembers probably can, and it may be worth seeing. Scroll down the page at the link until you see a video entitled Space rock falls into living room http://tvnz.co.nz/view/tvnz_index_skin/tvnz_index_group Regards, Charlie

[meteorite-list] Apology for academic egghead PhDs

Dear List, Someone just graciously pointed out my poor choice of words privately rather than chastising me publicly. I apologize if I offended any academics. I didn't mean to lump all academics together. Those I intended to criticize are those who are condescending toward amateurs or

Re: [meteorite-list] Video re New Zealand event

Charlie, Thanks very much for the link. Good interview with Joel Schiff (wearing a dark blue FBI cap). While praising the stone he said to the homeowner "Dealers will be on the next plane, and they will be here on your doorstep with wads of cash." The meteorite went through what appears to be

Re: [meteorite-list] Video re New Zealand event

I hope Joel told them to not throw away any of the items which were struck, gouged, or otherwise penetrated. Hummm...What is the exchange rate for NZ currency now adays? What is the fair value rate in New Orleans terms...? (ok just a little satire folks) Actually the report was very well

Re: [meteorite-list] Video re New Zealand event

Ken wrote: Charlie Thanks very much for the link. Your welcome, Ken. And thank you for the description which gave me some idea of what I'm missing:-) Guess we'll all be following the saga of this new fall as it unfolds. Best wishes, Charlie

[meteorite-list] Cassini's Flyby of Phoebe Shows a Moon With a Battered Past

Carolina Martinez (818) 354-9382 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Heidi Finn (720) 974-5859 Cassini Imaging Central Laboratory for Operations Space Science Institute, Boulder, Colo. News Release: 2004-147 June 12, 2004 Cassini's Flyby of Phoebe Shows a

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Crashes Through Roof of New Zealand House

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200406/s1130666.htm Meteorite touches down in NZ home Australian Broadcasting Corporation June 12, 2004 A meteorite has crashed through the roof of a house in Auckland, New Zealand, much to the surprise of the home's owners. Scientists were sceptical