Hi Adam and all,
You say that you looked at Greg's auctions and you can't tell from his
images about the validity of what he's selling, and I have to admit that
after I saw the pictures, I agreed with Steve Arnold (Chicago!) that this
guy is a fraud.
To me, this:
Sorry to hit on this subject for the third time but after looking into it
some more I have a new opinion,
After checking out his other auctions besides the California Irons, I see
they look very similar to a previously exposed seller's obviously fake
material. My current opinion is this is
On Sun, 7 May 2006 23:08:40 -0700, you wrote:
After checking out his other auctions besides the California Irons, I see
they look very similar to a previously exposed seller's obviously fake
material. My current opinion is this is probably the same person who changed
This ID was created on April
I do not recall the old ID but do know that the so called Chondrite (slag)
and a Pallasite (Olivine Xenolith) was brought up before on the List. The
description with the Cal-Tech story was also applied to some other material
he was offering as meteorites. Although it is sometimes difficult to
Hi,
This pairing argument/debate is one that has been going for years and
years, and will most probably continue way beyond all of us.
To my way of thinking It will never be solved unless every single rock
that is found is analysed by a competent body and given a serial
numbered cert, that is
Hi Bob,
Could it be Troilite (FeS)? It has a gold colour and is often quite
prevalent in many chondrites. Bensour was a great example and it's easily
distinguishable against the stark pale interior.
http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/bensour.html
Cheers,
Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
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Then the dealer registers it as a trademark,snip
Sorry. Entertaining email to try and break the self
interest postings that has nothing to do with science
that some dealers keep posting but even going to that
Hi Mark and All,
Your suggestion is again a purely commercial point of view. I do not say that
it is a wrong way but should not be the only one to my
opinion.
I agree that with current infrastructures it is not possible to have any single
rock analysed and classified, but is it really
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/May_8.html
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Hi
I think the real problem basically here is that fact that the
classifying institutions are just unable to classify material quickly
enough for the high turn over pace of the real life commercial world,
the fact that it takes many months or even many years to classify even a
simple Chondrite,
Hi Mark,
So, what would happen should I, a collector, decide to re-sell a trade
marked piece? What would happen should I decide to break up a trade marked
piece?
-Walter Branch
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Hi Walter,
There would be no problem reselling anything trademarked, if it was
originally bought from the registered trademark owner, then you are just
reselling the item. (Just as you don't get sued every time you trade in
your car). + Shops don't get sued for selling trademarked goods do
Hi Mark,
the reason for so many desert meteorites, especially ordinary chondrites,
not being classified certainly is rooted in their commercialisation.
With the prices paid for them during the last years and the all in all petty
sales volumes that the meteorite market has and seen the costs to
Greg - not aiming this at you or anyone else. Just wondering what is the value
of
scientific study if the outcome is subject to a vote?
Gary
http://www.meteorite-dealers.com
On 5 May 2006 at 21:57, Adam Hupe wrote:
Every multiple stone
classification sharing the same nomenclature was
Hi Martin and list,
I agree it's probably not commercially viable to tm most meteorites, except
maybe the expensive Martians, and Lunars et al. And I personally would rather
see complete freedom in the marketplace, but for such a scientific subject it
all seems remarkably 'hit and miss'.
Although I'm staying out of this animated discussion, I will tackle
this question:
All scientific publications are the subject of votes of a sort. It
is called the peer-review process. That is the kind of vote new
meteorite descriptions receive from the NomCom, which functions as a
Hi
From month I try to contact Zelimir but with no succes. I send him emails,
call him at Univeritet, but no reply. Can anyone tell me how to reach him or
I will make my exchibition in the grass in front of Regency Palace :))
Thanks
-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.newsclick.de/index.jsp/menuid/2160/artid/5383486
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Good morning list.I did not realize this guy has tried to scam before or
that he has bought from other list members and has not paid.Thanks so much
for this valued info.I to got the I JUST GOT OUT OF THE HOSPITAL
routine.He won the auctions 4 weeks ago and not even a dime.So I just
relisted the
Don't worry about him bidding again. He has just been thrown off of ebay. I
guess he may try to come up with yet a third ID so keep an eye out.
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From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:09
Thanks for responding Jeff,
I understand... 'Two minds are better than one'. Jury-of-peers majority [? or
other than
majority?] opinion based on specific standards. Comparative conclusions
tallied up, so
to speak.
Knowing I am new to meteorites and am still learning, does this strike
Hi folks!
This is the most important thing for our hobby or business: publicity and
education! It´s not important how big a fair is (like Andy Gren has posted),
it´s important that there is a fair. Sure, Gifhorn is very very small, but
it can grow and become bigger...
Shame on us, if we only
On Mon, 8 May 2006 06:15:45 -0700, you wrote:
Don't worry about him bidding again. He has just been thrown off of ebay. I
guess he may try to come up with yet a third ID so keep an eye out.
I know I reported him as selling fraudulent items, I'm sure a few other list
members probably did, too.
Peer review often does not take the form of majority opinion. If
only one person on a panel finds a fatal or other serious flaw, the
person serving as Editor (i.e., Judge) may ask for revision or even
reject a submission. It depends on what is wrong.
No, I don't think there is such a thing
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/home/index.cfm
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Cassini-Huygens/SEMKVQOFGLE_1.html#subhead2
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Sorry list,
for that abuse, with my computer crash I lost the informations, who took
from us from the Rumuruti last autumn and more recently the Acap,(but I
guess, mastermind Martin, remembered and emailed now all),
want only to get sure, that all buyers got the information.
(Perhaps it's a more
Hi folks!
This is the most important thing for our hobby or business: publicity and
education! It´s not important how big a fair is (like Andy Gren has posted),
it´s important that there is a fair. Sure, Gifhorn is very very small, but
it can grow and become bigger...
Shame on us, if we only
In past years, Gifhorn was bigger. But the date was changed from one week
before the Munich show until the spring. The advantage of having it in the
fall was that those dealers that had to travel could do both shows within a
10 day period. This lessened the fixed costs of travelling.
Hi Marcin, list
I didn't attend there the last 2 times, so I didn't wrote a report.
The problem of that fair not growing is that the number of exhibitors isn't
getting larger.
In my eyes it was a mistake to move the date from October to May.
In former times it took place always 1 week before the
Dear List,
I will try to present this in a way that is not directed at any single
individual or dealer.
I felt the List needed an explanation as to why I get so upset about
description and number borrowing so that my real motives are known.
First of all, this not entirely about commercial
My husband stumbled across this site full of Peekskill clips. Enjoy!
http://aquarid.physics.uwo.ca/~pbrown/Videos/peekskill.htm
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Greetings to all,
There is another unfortunate side effect to the way specimens were
collected in the NWA region. To me (an this is only my opinion) there
has been a misrepresentation of true total weights by the finders along
with dealers buying material. It is my understanding that often
You are absolutely correct in this statement but it doesn't only apply to
NWA material. For example; How much Park Forest was reported? A lot of it
was found after it was published in the Meteoritical Bulletin including the
Main Mass. How much Tatahouine is out there? Nobody knows for sure. I am
Hola Gary and others
Yes, usually with independent peer review you have to make all the reviewers
happy by answering their sometimes dumb questions but your sometimes erroneous
statements, poor exposition, ambiguous statements, flawed graphs, etc.
Frequently, each reviewer gets a separate
Hi Adam; I am a collector of meteorites.And as such i prefer to acquire
properly classified specimens. ( personally ).And in doing so i also prefer
that
the specimen be in the TKW range for that particular classification.I think
your personal thoughts post covers that and more.If we aren't
Hi Doug,
Yes, your description is pretty accurate (at least for my own field, child
psychology). Back in my publishing days, I would hope that the editor would
send the paper to favorable reviewers! Many a paper was accepted with
revisions or rejected which hurts your ego but you eventually get
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cp wrote:
Hello, I have a HUGE polished end-cut of NEA 001, an anorthositic
regolith breccia (27.7g), for sale. Please email me off-list if you
are interested (photos, pricing, etc. available upone request). Thank
you for your time. Marshall
I admit to sleeping through some of these post
http://p073.ezboard.com/fancientlosttreasuresfrm138.showMessage?topicID=130.topic
Archaeologists and amateurs agree pact
MODERATOR NOTE: Special thanks to LarryKS for
submitting this article .
Archaeologists and amateurs agree pact
By Maev Kennedy
The acquisition by the British
Hello Elton,
I guess that since the 001 name is the first, these articles will
answer your question:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1487.pdf
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1220.pdf
Cheers,
Martin
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cp wrote:
Hello Elton,
I guess that since the 001 name is the first, these articles will
answer your question:
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1487.pdf
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1220.pdf
Cheers,
Martin
==
Hi
OK It comes fromSudan, but why then its NEA
Well spoken Adam
While our posts were sometimes aimed at each other, words like clown and
thief and lazy will do that, we are really aiming at a difference in
philosophy. I am opposed to the current multiple standards of practice
regarding classification and feel that the current dense area
In a message dated 5/8/2006 2:46:14 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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Hi Bob,
Could it be Troilite (FeS)? It has a gold colour and is often quite
prevalent in many chondrites. Bensour was a great example and it's easily
distinguishable against the stark pale interior.
Thanks you Rob for sharing your incite and feelings on this issue. It's
refreshing to read a well-composed and thought out perspective expressed
in a way where I can't see rows of dollar signs between the lines.
The NWA naming and pairing system in it's current form has some flaws and
the
Maybe we could sponser people to send on this mission. I'll chip in 10 bucks to
send Tom Cruise.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3217961/
May 8, 2006 | 8:30 p.m. ET
Risking it all on Mars: Would you chip in a million dollars to have someone go
on a one-way trip to Mars? How about $100,000, or
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