[meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread dean bessey
Since the new millinium started everybody in the meteorite world has had a wonderful problem: To many meteorites. I think everybody who buys meteorites from me wants to know how to get a meteorite classified. Since I moved down under I have found a very enthusiastic and helpful meteorite community

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Insurance Annual International Meteorite Trade Turnover

2006-07-12 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Interesting question Mike. I've always wondered what the entire annual international turnover of the meteorite trade would be? Including all sales and trades both private and commercial. Many pieces would even be sold 2 or 3 times in the one year. I bet it would add up very quickly... $25M...

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Arriere Ban
Yes, it would be interesting and quite informative to compare prices, conditions, speed and of course quality of different classification services available world wide. Does any-one has this info? Regards, Arriere --- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the new millinium started

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Arriere Ban
Yes, it would be interesting and quite informative to compare prices, conditions, speed and of course quality of different classification services available world wide. Does any-one has this info? Regards, Arriere --- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the new millinium started

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Arriere Ban
Yes, it would be interesting and quite informative to compare prices, conditions, speed and of course quality of different classification services available world wide. Does any-one has this info? Regards, Arriere --- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since the new millinium started

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread dean bessey
Well, as far as quality of different services go I dont think there is much difference. The meteoritical society has an extremily high standard before they will accept a classification and everybody submitting classifications needs certain expertise and equipment. The real problem is in speed -

AW: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Martin Altmann
I'd guess that there are some differences. Exotic and tricky material will be more accurate classified at institutions, which have more experience with exotics. Ordinary chondrites require less efforts and equipment, there wouldn't be a remarkable difference. Whether human factors may play a role,

[meteorite-list] Volume of annual meteorite sales

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy
Dear List; I can't help but think that an accurate survey of annual meteorite sales in dollars would be followed by an annual sales tax on meteorites in dollars! I presume the feds already have some one that looks into what meteorites do to the economy as all of us in the US file income tax

[meteorite-list] 1 to 3 hours Downtime Today.

2006-07-12 Thread Paul Harris
Dear List, * 1 to 3 hours of downtime today on The Meteorite Exchange and Meteorite-Times * Our hosting company will be installing a new switch with all new modules later today. As a result we expect anywhere from 1 to 3 hours of downtime. The good news is that the slow performance we've

AW: [meteorite-list] Annual InternationalMeteorite Trade Turnover

2006-07-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Jeff, Dave, List That's not only an interesting, but an essential question, when we read in press about the value of meteorites and hear the statements in the looting debates of recent times. As most of the most important retailers and certainly also several of the most mighty collectors are

[meteorite-list] Meteorite doubts emerge (the Norway meteorite)

2006-07-12 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1385336.ece Meteorite doubts emerge Astronomers were excited by what they thought was a meteorite that fell near a Norwegian house over the weekend. Now an expert at the National History Museum in Oslo says he thinks it's just an ordinary earthly

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Question

2006-07-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi all, I find this very interesting (below) - is anyone on the list in the know on this event and what it was about? -- Getafe: On the afternooon of June 21, 1994, Jose Martin and his wife, Vicenta Cors, were driving in Spain from Madrid to Marbella. As they zoomed past the town of

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Dean, Congrats on scoring a good connection down under. While I have not kept abreast of the specific developments, I do know that at the time of the Tucson Show Marvin Killgore Dr. Dante Lauretta of the U. of A Southwest Meteorite Center were intending to institute meteoritic

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Question

2006-07-12 Thread Chris Peterson
I believe the general feeling is that this is an unusual slag, but it isn't entirely certain. There is a steel plant in the area, and slag sometimes drops onto roads. The fact that this piece hit a car allowed its fall angle to be estimated at 20°, which isn't possible for a meteorite of this

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread MARK BOSTICK
In Tucson Killgore noted classified opportunities during his talk. I spoke with Killgore after the talk and was told a person would purchase a subscription that would allow them so many a year. The price had not been established, and if you signed the book in his room you were suppose to be

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Classification

2006-07-12 Thread AstronomicalResearchNetwork
Meteorite Classification This might be a good time to announce that in about 2 weeks I will be making a major change to my website . For the past 2 years or more I have been working on a set of Guidelines for Meteorite classification . The first version of that was to be on our CD

[meteorite-list] The Grand Meteorite Theft

2006-07-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi list, as the attitude to fire arms in USA and the involved risks of rates of killings are always somewhat scary to Europeans, I have to say, that I'm very content with the work of my guard cats and honestly, if you don't collect pallasite slices and if you don't have precious display

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Mark, I am just wondering how you can disagree with a statement that something MAY be available to people and the suggestion that they check it out for themselves? It doesn't sound like you have called Dr. Lauretta at the number I posted. Jeez, Mark - it seems like

[meteorite-list] Antarctic comet dust perhaps in better condition than Stardust

2006-07-12 Thread Darren Garrison
Anyone have access to the full article? http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/mg19125594.100.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Michael, I am not involved in any way with the deal Dean arranged for classifications and I hope it is alright to disagree. I signed a list to be notified when they got things going as I stated and have not been notified. We have discussed Marvin's possible classification service on

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread stan .
Michael, This is a somewhat touchy subject that I'm about to bring up, so I will just come out and say it. Nothing against Killgore or Dr. Lauretta personally, but lets not forget that their new meteorite center was founded because of the 'private collecting community cutting up and

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi All, OK, I contacted the Southwest Meteorite Center at U of A. Dr. Lauretta was on vacation, but I was able to get ahold of Marvin. Marvin informed me they are far from ready to be able to do analysis in a timely manor and, while that is a definite future goal, until other aspects of

[meteorite-list] AD: Efremovka CV3 reduced subgroup

2006-07-12 Thread Stephan Kambach
Stephan Kambach Germany Dear List Members If someone is interested - I want to sell my 9.75 g Efremovka slice (CV3 red.). The price should be 850 EUR. - the same amount once I paid for it. Efremovka is one of the intensively studied carbonaceous meteorites. Rarely seen on the market. For

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite doubts emerge (the Norway meteorite)

2006-07-12 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, I believe the quick and enthusiastic response to this incident was potentiated by the earlier Norwegian bolide last month. Word of it didn't even get reported for several days but interest built up after a week. It was unexpected and so it took people awhile to wake up to the event.

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Stan, While I more than appreciate your concern - since I am a collector and a dealer, of course, I would share your perspective IF that were what the center were about. However, in protracted discussions with Marvin and Dr. Lauretta that is certainly not the sense I get, at all. In

RE: AW: [meteorite-list] Question

2006-07-12 Thread Michael Farmer
I was in Spain and saw the photos of the car. It was some sort of scam. Mike Farmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael L Blood Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:58 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] Question Hi

[meteorite-list] AD: Efremovka CV3 reduced subgroup

2006-07-12 Thread Stephan Kambach
Stephan Kambach Germany Dear List Members If someone is interested - I want to sell my 9.75 g Efremovka slice (CV3 red.) for 850 EUR. - for the same price once I paid. Efremovka is one of the intensively studied carbonaceous meteorites. Rarely seen on the market. For pictures and

AW: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Michael, Only Bill Gates could afford to buy every gram of material on the market. ...as to think they could generate the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars it would take to buy EVERYTHING Humhem - Market-Trend-Michael, now I'm really surprised. Do you not agree with my

[meteorite-list] AD - Auctions Ending Now, Great Values !!

2006-07-12 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear List Members, Just a quick note to let you know there are several eBay auctions I have ending about when this email lands in your inbox. There are several great values, many still at just 99 cents! I also listed earlier in the week many unclassified individuals and NWA 869-paired 1-kilo

Re: AW: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Michael L Blood
on 7/12/06 1:40 PM, Martin Altmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are thousands of other people than Bill Gates, who could afford to clean up the market with a fingers' click! Buckleboo! Martin Hi Martin, You are undoubtedly right - technically - but I think it does

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread stan .
While I more than appreciate your concern - since I am a collector and a dealer, of course, I would share your perspective IF that were what the center were about. However, in protracted discussions with Marvin and Dr. Lauretta that is certainly not the sense I get, at all. Michael,

AW: AW: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Unfortunately I know only very few, which are interested in meteorites :-) Hehe, there are 35.000 known meteorites. Imagine you would be able to get access to all of them, also to the 25.000 Antarctic ones and all, which are closed away in museums and never were available. Well, if you would

[meteorite-list] Meteorite doubts emerge (the Norway meteorite)

2006-07-12 Thread Bjorn Sorheim
Hello, I think you mean 380 tons TNT, not 380 kilotons, right!? Hiroshima was about 20 ktons TNT, so your figure is approaching almost a half Megaton TNT, that's awsome! Else, I absolutly agree on what is the point of your article, I think the first incident spawned the last, yes. That was what

Re: [meteorite-list] Antarctic comet dust perhaps in better conditionthan Stardust

2006-07-12 Thread Adam Hupe
How could this dust be in better condition than Stardust samples when only a third of it might have been contributed by a comet? How can they be sure this material came from a comet? With Stardust you know with 100% certainty where it came from plus there is no terrestrial contamination. Check

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite doubts emerge (the Norway meteorite)

2006-07-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:52:53 -0500, you wrote: This kind of report -- the odd rock and the strange hole in the garden kind of report -- tends to come, singly or in a small flurry, after a real event. The seed of the notion is already in place. Humans see what they are prepared to see.

[meteorite-list] Anyone got $450,000 to drop on some meteorites?

2006-07-12 Thread Michael Farmer
http://cgi.ebay.com/meteorites_W0QQitemZ160006582551 Take a look at these wonderful specimens:) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Adventura del Monte Meteorite (meteorwrong?)

2006-07-12 Thread Steve Schoner
Mark, The "reason I keep bringing it up" is because you had issued a warning to the list that this might be a "meteorwrong" after you went out and saw the piece. You did not state your reasons clearly regarding your observations of this specimen. It sure looks like a meteorite to me, and in fact

RE: [meteorite-list] Adventura del Monte Meteorite (meteorwrong?)

2006-07-12 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Steve, You noted You did not state your reasons clearly regarding your observations of this specimen. I am not sure if you read what I wrote. I think I gave a very detailed report on my observations. I said why I thought it was a meteorite and why I thought it was not. The buyer and

[meteorite-list] Anyone got $450,000 to drop on some meteorites?

2006-07-12 Thread Walter L. Newton
Why? Is that a good price? Walter L. Newton Golden, Co __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone got $450,000 to drop on some meteorites?

2006-07-12 Thread David Hardy
Gotta love the description! David H. --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/meteorites_W0QQitemZ160006582551 Take a look at these wonderful specimens:) __ Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Greg Hupe
Hello Michael, If there was not an immediate and clear business plan to classify and/or examine suspect meteorites, as we were led to believe in Tucson, why did they start selling Trophies to help their 'business' efforts in order to do so in a timely manner? Also, I believe we were told the

RE: [meteorite-list] Adventura del Monte Meteorite (meteorwrong?)

2006-07-12 Thread Steve Schoner
-- MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Steve, You noted You did not state your reasons clearly regarding your observations of this specimen. I am not sure if you read what I wrote. I think I gave a very detailed report on my observations. I said why I thought it was a meteorite and

[meteorite-list] Adventura del Monte Meteorite

2006-07-12 Thread Mike Fowler
Mark and all, What is the story on this meteorite. Someone paid big bucks for it. Is it or is it not a meteorite. Steve Schoner AMS IMCA #4470 From Mike Fowler, proud owner of Aventura del Monte Chicago ebay--starsandrocks Hi Steve and List, Although it has not been officially

RE: [meteorite-list] Adventura del Monte Meteorite

2006-07-12 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Thanks for your e-mail Mike. Clear Skies, Mark PS: I will respectfully e-mail you off list Steve. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Antarctic comet dust perhaps in betterconditionthan Stardust

2006-07-12 Thread Pete Pete
The whole thing stinks of posturing to me! To me, it sounds extremely interesting, and I am anxious to read more! ( I can't get enough of this stuff!) Cheers, Pete From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Antarctic comet dust

Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Michael L Blood
I didn't here either of those statements - but these are questions better asked of Marvin. Best wishes, Michael on 7/12/06 5:06 PM, Greg Hupe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Michael, If there was not an immediate and clear business plan to classify and/or examine suspect

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

2006-07-12 Thread Martin Horejsi
Hi All, I spent a considerable amount of time both in Tucson with Marvin and Dante and on the phone discussing the nature of the SWMC, all of which I wrote about in the May 2006 issue of Meteorite Magazine. Hopefully reading that article will make the mission of the Center more clear to the

[meteorite-list] Martian Sedimentary Meteorites

2006-07-12 Thread Paul
Ashley, Gail M. and Delaney, Jeremy S, 1999, If a meteorite of Martian sandstone hit you on the head would you recognize it? 1999, Lunar and Planetary Science XXX, abstarct no. 1273 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC99/pdf/1273.pdf __ Do You

Re: [meteorite-list] Martian Sedimentary Meteorites

2006-07-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:14:27 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: If a meteorite of Martian sandstone hit you on the head would you recognize it? I'm guessing no. Nor would you recognize your parents, a map of Florida, or Harrison Ford. __ Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite doubts emerge (the Norway meteorite)

2006-07-12 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, You're right, of course. That kilo just slipped in there unconciously. Back on June 17, Darren Garrison posted this: http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_37571.shtml 300 tons of TNT. That's the kinetic energy of the meteoritic fireball sighted June 7th in Norway, according