Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...
Hi Martin, I once spoke to a Geologist and an Australian museum curator about this. Apparantly some birds actually eat stones to aid in digestion. Go figure! ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds... Hola list, I have a stupid question for the ornithologists. Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones? At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a stone hitting the roof and rolling down, recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped. I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping stones. Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a behaviour? Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions Ending Tonight
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite interview, part 2
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=2139mode=threadorder=0thold=0 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] looking for Acfer094,214
I am looking for small pieces (0.5 to 1gram) of Acfer 094 and 214. If anyone has a piece of each they are willing to sell then please email me privately. Thanks Laurence Garvie School of Earth and Space Exploration Arizona State University __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites: Friend or Foe? (Monica Grady Interview - Part 2)
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=2139 Meteorites: Friend or Foe? Astrobiology Magazine November 9, 2006 Summary: In this interview, Monica Grady discusses the varieties of dust and meteorites that have fallen to Earth, and explains what they tell us about the history of the solar system and its potential for life. Meteorites: Friend or Foe? Monica Grady, a professor of planetary and space science at the Open University in the UK, is one of the world's meteorite experts. Monica Grady, meteorite expert. In addition to studying the finer details of these rocks from space that fall to Earth -- such as learning the geochemistry of meteorites originating from Mars -- she is also interested in the broader implications of her findings, and uses her research to learn more about the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. In part two of this interview with Astrobiology Magazine, Grady discusses the varieties of dust and meteorites that have fallen to Earth, and explains what they tell us about the history of the solar system and its potential for life. Read part one http://www.astrobio.net/news/article2136.html of this interview. Astrobiology Magazine (AM): What is the importance of studying different meteorites? Monica Grady (MG): Looking at meteorites that come from different asteroids, we can see that some meteorites have been altered and some haven't. Some have been melted and differentiated, while others are still primitive and full of carbon. Why? Because there's a spectrum of compositions within the asteroid belt, and a spectrum of different parent bodies that have accumulated and broken apart in the asteroid belt. The more meteorites we look at, the more parent bodies we think there were. It gives you a more complete picture of the solar system and the heterogeneity of the material that we came from. The turbulent cloud of gas and dust that was the solar nebula managed to produce some things that are full of carbon, and others that aren't full of carbon. One of the projects I'm working on is Stardust, which now has primitive dust that was collected in a comet. The dust hasn't evolved in the last 4.5 billion years. The amazing thing about the particles collected by the Stardust mission is that some of the grains seem to be rich in calcium and aluminum, which are refractory elements in grains that formed close to the sun. But we expected comets to only have grains that formed far away from the sun. So Stardust puts a different spin on our knowledge of how the solar system formed. I've been studying dust for a long time, looking at infrared spectroscopy observations made by astronomers on planet formation, star formation, and the presence of disks around stars, and linking that with what we see on Earth -- in terms of interplanetary and interstellar dust which coagulated to form asteroids and meteorites. I'm interested in the process from planet formation right through to meteorites arriving on the Earth. Infrared spectroscopy is a way you can follow that, because you can make measurements on Earth and with telescopes. I've also shifted wavelengths and gone from infrared to the visible and ultraviolet regions to try and make sense of the spectra and look at the spectral signatures of the materials that are coming in on dust grains, meteorites, and star dust particles to see what that can tell us about the materials. Ultraviolet visible spectroscopy is sensitive to mineral composition and also the presence or absence of organics. AM:Are you looking for the organics that may have played a role in the origin of life? MG: Just the precursors that might be within cometary particles. But I am looking for the conditions that we think could have led to the origin of life on Mars. My work with martian meteorites has led to my involvement in a project to develop a water sensor for Mars. Not just to look for signs that water's been there in terms of channels or minerals, but actually to look for liquid water, to see if it's there as a film on minerals. I'm working with teams from Norway and Portugal to build a sensor. We're hoping to persuade the European Space Agency that this small sensor can be integrated with its other density, porosity and the permittivity sensors, fitting them all on ExoMars. AM: So are comets and meteorites our friends or our foes? MG: They're both! They're friend and foe. They can be foe if they are too big. Something on the 1 to 10 kilometer scale would be catastrophic. But certainly they were friendly in the past, bringing water and the organic building blocks of life. And they can be our friends today, because as long as a meteorite doesn't kill anybody or destroy a house when it falls, then it stimulates the public's interest in meteorites. AM: Plus, they're our friends because of the changes they've helped to bring about in evolution? MG: The K-T
[meteorite-list] Mars Rover May Get One-Way Ticket Into Crater
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6128594.stm Mars rover may get one-way ticket By Paul Rincon BBC News November 9, 2006 The chief scientist on Nasa's Mars rover mission is contemplating whether to send Opportunity into a large crater with no means of getting back out. The decision could commit the rover to spending its final days exploring Victoria Crater, a 60m-deep (200ft) depression on Mars' Meridiani plains. Steve Squyres said Opportunity would probably be sent in to explore the bowl even if no escape route was found. But he stressed his team would do its best to find an exit path first. Opportunity has explored other craters on Meridiani Planum; indeed, it even came to rest in one after descending to the Martian surface in January 2004; but Victoria Crater is a much more challenging proposition. You've got to realise this is a big, big crater for a little rover like this. The biggest thing we ever explored with Opportunity was Endurance Crater, which was 150m in diameter. This is six times that, so it's huge, Professor Squyres told the BBC News website. Exit strategy Speaking to me at the Open University in Milton Keynes, where he was due to give a lecture, he explained: We have found a way in, we haven't found a way out yet. It turns out this rover is better at going downhill than it is at going uphill. I don't want to go into this crater until we've either found a way out or sort of convinced ourselves that there probably isn't one. In other words, I want to go in with knowledge of the consequences. But even if we find there's no way out, we'll probably go in anyway, because there's just so much to be gained. The crater has high walls with layers of exposed rock that should reveal significant new information about the planet's geological past. The thing Victoria offers is first of all, it is several times deeper than anything we've seen before so we're getting a longer geologic record, the researcher based at Cornell University in Ithaca, US, explained. The other thing is that because Victoria is such a large crater with so many points along the crater rim at which we can do geology, we can look not only at vertical variations in the geology, but we can look at horizontal variations, which we couldn't do before. This should allow scientists to track how features of a particular rock unit change with distance. For instance, it can give information about the extent and shapes of ancient Martian sand dunes. The rover programme's principal investigator said Opportunity had just begun a partial, clockwise circumnavigation of the 800m-wide (half a mile) bowl to scope out its geology. Future exploration Professor Squyres also talked about future exploration of the Red Planet. In addition to surface exploration, he said a mission to return samples of Martian rocks to Earth should be high on the list of priorities for scientists. I think it's going to be particularly important to bring rocks back. I'm a big fan of in-situ robotic exploration; that's what I do. But the best scientific instrumentation is always going to exist in laboratories on Earth. Return samples are kind of like the gift that keeps on giving. If you don't use them all up when you bring them back, then you preserve samples so they can still be around a generation later when you have a new generation of scientists and a new generation of scientific instruments. The best science ever done with lunar samples collected back in the Apollo era is being done today with brand new instrumentation. This, he said, could be vital for answering the questions of whether life once arose on the Red Planet and also exactly how old Martian rocks are. Opportunity has been exploring Mars' Meridiani Plains since January 2004. Its twin, the Spirit rover, continues to explore Gusev Crater on the other side of the Red Planet. Both robots have continued working far beyond their designed mission lifetimes. Professor Squyres said he had no idea when the rovers were likely to cease functioning: It could be two years from now, it could be tomorrow, he said. For the moment they are working well, despite showing some signs of wear and tear. Opportunity has now driven more than 9km (5.6 miles) across the planet's dusty surface, examining rocks and studying the Martian environment. It has found strong evidence that shallow waters periodically flowed over its region of Mars many millions of years ago. On Tuesday, Professor Squyres spoke at the Centre for Earth, Planetary, Space Astronomical Research (Cepsar) Lecture at the Open University in Milton Keynes. He also gave a lecture on Wednesday at the Geological Society's William Smith Meeting 2006 in London. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Namex Completes 8 Diamond Drill Holes on its Sudbury Area Properties
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=182344 Press Release Namex Completes 8 Diamond Drill Holes on its Sudbury Area Properties November 9, 2006 TORONTO, ONTARIO -- (MARKET WIRE) -- November 09, 2006 -- Namex (TSX VENTURE: NME) is pleased to announce that it has completed 1,985 metres of diamond drilling to test three first priority targets as identified from its recently completed technical report. Two holes were drilled to test a high intensity magnetic and electromagnetic anomaly at Fraser Lake, on the Golden Pine property. Drilling encountered highly brecciated banded iron formation, with pyrite and calcite veinlets and some rocks best described as Sudbury breccia. Namex was targeting iron formation hosted gold mineralization common to Archean volcanic belts, such as the Geraldton-Longlac, Central Patricia and Pickle Crow mines in northwestern Ontario. The proximity of this anomaly to the Sudbury meteorite impact event was particularly compelling. On the Golden Pine East, Namex drilled four holes totaling 477 metres. All holes were drilled from a singular location to try and determine the strike, dip and extension to depth of the A-1 surface gold showing. Two of these holes also tested high priority IP targets along the contact between Huronian sediments on the north and felsic meta-volcanics to the south. Historical surface channel sample returned a 7.22 foot width (2.2m) running 1.302 ounces gold/ton (44.64 g/t). The main gold mineralization here reportedly occurs as microscopic grains not visible in hand specimen. Although gold mineralization appears to be associated with sulphides and quartz veining no distinction is possible in hand specimen or drill core between barren and mineralized rock. Fine disseminated sulphides have been noted occurring sporadically in the core in all four holes, however, logging and sampling is presently on going. The third area of drilling was on the Post Creek property, to test two priority IP anomalies along the projection of the Whistle Offset. Two holes totaling 775 metres tested Quantitative Section anomalies identified by Matrix GeoTechnologies. The holes encountered extensive zones of brecciated rock. The detailed core logging of these holes will need to be completed (and possibly petrographic analyses) to determine if these sections may be Sudbury or footwall breccias. Complete assay results are expected by year end. Oliver T. Maki, P.Geo, a qualified person, is responsible for the technical content of this news release. Namex is a Canadian junior that actively explores for platinum group metals, nickel, copper, gold, silver, zinc and lead exclusively in North America. For further information, see Namex's due diligence site: www.namex-explorations.com . This release was prepared by the Company's management who take full responsibility for its contents. Some statements contained in this release are forward-looking and, therefore, involve uncertainties or risks that could cause actual results to differ materially. The company disclaims any obligation to update forward-looking statements. The TSX Venture Exchange has not reviewed and does not accept responsibility for the adequacy or accuracy of this news release. Contacts: Namex Explorations Inc. James W. Hess President C.E.O. (514) 935-2445 or (514) 932-7712 (514) 935-8161 (FAX) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: www.namex-explorations.com SOURCE: Namex Explorations Inc. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trying to get a hold of Russ Kempton
If anyone knows where Russ Kempton is, could you please email me off-list? I am trying to track down an order placed several weeks ago. I appreciate any help! Kind regards, Mike Bandli __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 50kgs meteorites to sold
dear meteorsmen Over than 50kgs of meteors NWA to sold my private collection.So make an offer i am waiting . thanks precieuses community. Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit
Try the SOHO sitehttp://zeus.nascom.nasa.gov/~soc/transits/mercury/20061108/latest_MDI_512x512.gifit's updating a bit better now :-)cheers - ted[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A disappointed Rob writes:Unfortunately, none of the Mercury transit pages I've searched so fartoday have shown a live image of the solar disk -- very disappointing.As most of you astronomy-minded folks will know, this transit isn't visiblehere in Western Europe :-( but Rob's words show how lucky (and happy) I wason Jun 08, 2004, when I hurried home from school as fast as I could and asfast as the traffic on my way home permitted to quickly set up my 8" Celestronscope without properly aligning it (no time left to do so) during the last fewminutes of the Venus transit and to take a few quick pictures of Venus' egress.The last Venus transit had occurred on Dec. 06, 1882, more than 120 yearsbefore and the next time Venus will "walk across the sun's disk" won't beuntil June, 2012!Bernd__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Sponsored LinkGet a free Motorola Razr! Today Only! Choose Cingular, Sprint, Verizon, Alltel, or T-Mobile.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wingstars
Hi List! Has anyone ever heard of wingstars? They look just like meteorites, but no nickel! I have seen a book on them but can't remember the name of it. Anyone know of it? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wingstars
Hi, Wingstars are meteor-wrongs. A gentleman named Russell T. Wing published The Discovery of the Wingstars, Volume I and II, decades ago. It's a classic case of delusion; he saw meteorites everywhere: quartz ones, linestone ones, petrified wood ones... The books are the best collection of color plates of meteor-wrongs ever made, though. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wingstars Hi List! Has anyone ever heard of wingstars? They look just like meteorites, but no nickel! I have seen a book on them but can't remember the name of it. Anyone know of it? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wingstars
Here is a message I sent to the meteorite-list way back on 10/28/1998. A Library of Congress search confirms that Russell T. Wing was born in 1891, so I was right... he was 93 when I met him in 1984. jeff The definitive work on the subject of meteorwrong denial is: The Discovery of the Wingstars: Volume II, The Evidence by Russell T. Wing, Wingstar Research Soc., Deephaven, Minnesota, 1971. LC 76-144396. For those that haven't seen this marvel, here are the opening two pages: [quote] The world often ridicules and gags before it can swallow and digest a revolutionary innovation or discovery -- THE TEXTBOOK OF THE WINGSTARS Terrestrial-type meteorites (TERRESTRIALITES) QUARTZ-PETRIFIED WOOD FOSSILS REMAINS OF PREHISTORIC LIFE FROM THE SKY THE LOG OF THE GREATEST DISCOVERY SINCE COLUMBUS He presented evidence of another livable continent. Now, space fossils present evidence of other livable planets. A BREAKTHROUGH OF SHOCKING AND VIVID PROOF THAT WE ARE NOT ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE [end quote] This is required reading for everybody who deals with meteorwrongs. Wing was quite a character, but I'm sure he must be dead by now. When I saw him at the Met Soc meeting (either La Jolla, 1980 or Albuquerque, 1984) he was certainly near 90 years old. He claimed to have invented the first camper-vehicle in 1915, the helicopter in 1917, the Parker pen in 1938, and Wingstars in 1970. jeff At 03:40 PM 11/9/2006, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Hi, Wingstars are meteor-wrongs. A gentleman named Russell T. Wing published The Discovery of the Wingstars, Volume I and II, decades ago. It's a classic case of delusion; he saw meteorites everywhere: quartz ones, linestone ones, petrified wood ones... The books are the best collection of color plates of meteor-wrongs ever made, though. Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Wingstars Hi List! Has anyone ever heard of wingstars? They look just like meteorites, but no nickel! I have seen a book on them but can't remember the name of it. Anyone know of it? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Smell of Meteorites...
Hi List,Has anyone ever noticed if certain Meteorites "smell" when they are wet?...like a Pungent,burnt,Smell?..Thanks..Kevin. Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wingstars
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2005-July/175763.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List! Has anyone ever heard of wingstars? They look just like meteorites, but no nickel! I have seen a book on them but can't remember the name of it. Anyone know of it? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wingstars
http://home.earthlink.net/~mwnews/wingstar.html best, Ken Newton IMCA #9632 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List! Has anyone ever heard of wingstars? They look just like meteorites, but no nickel! I have seen a book on them but can't remember the name of it. Anyone know of it? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
