Why do we keep speaking of fusion crust on iron
meteorites?
Eman
WNBC-TV here in N.Y. showed a clip of the rock
yesterday, no fusion crust that I could see.
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Number 1: I believe this is an issue between YOU and
EBAY in accordance with the Ebay standard practice and
terms of service agreement.
Number 2: ... It is too overwhelming to put into words
so this will have to suffice. Where do you get off
complaining about a lack of honesty and integrity?
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/January_6.html
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- Original Message -
From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteors Light Up Morning Sky in Colorado
Hi Chris,
When I say more than a few seconds for fireballs, I do mean
Hello list
When I was in Morocco last june, I have found in one place strange thing.
This looked like slag, but from the other side it was a little similar to
material that I have seen on one other dealer (this white part)
Now Im sure it was a meteorite and part of this EL3 find.
But heh, they
Hello list.Are there any small,30 to 50 gram complete
individuals forsale?I have not seen any.
Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
www.chicagometeorites.net.
Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites
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Hello list.Are there any small,30 to 50 gram complete
individuals forsale?I have not seen any.
Steve, there are NO INDIVIDUALS, it is one fragmented specimen. Use hammer
to make some smaller complete full crusted specimens :P
-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
Tom wrote:
Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market?
Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by
the Nomenclature Committee only this past October, I would imagine there
are likely other relict meteorites in our collections which have not
Hi David,
What about irons stony/irons etc? How do they fall into the new category?
There are quite a few shales in collections and I'm curious if they would be
considered 'relict'.
Cheers,
Jeff
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From: David Weir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
They certainly should be considered relict meteorites if there is
evidence that they were once meteorites, although a hunk of Canyon
Diablo iron-shale would not be deserving of a separate name.
jeff
At 09:25 AM 1/6/2007, Jeff Kuyken wrote:
Hi David,
What about irons stony/irons etc? How do
Which meteorite is considered the smoking Gun meteorite that may have
killed the dinosaurs? I know that some has been found which is mostly
shale. Can't remember the name though and google did not help. US find.
Cheers,
tett
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL
When rob elliott was in chicago back in 2002,we were
talking about LAKE MURRAY,the iron,possibly being the
smoking gun.It eve says on his website about being
that with a question mark.
Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
www.chicagometeorites.net.
Ebay
Thanks Steve! That's the one.
tett
- Original Message -
From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:50 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] smoking gun/ NWA 2828
When rob elliott was in chicago back in 2002,we were
talking
..otherwise I would have missed this beauty!!!
...And now stop to broken me...ah yes yes, now you say to
me in private you come here to broken my face...its at
5 years I am under waith...
My last word on this argoument
Matteo
Sorry - I know I shouldn't laugh, but this was really really
Steve wrote:
When Rob Elliott was in Chicago back in 2002, we were talking
about LAKE MURRAY, the iron, possibly being the smoking gun.
Mike T. responded: Thanks Steve! That's the one.
According to Sicree et al., Lake Murray is one of the oldest or possibly
the oldest paleoiron (terrestrial
This abstract by Frank Kyte describes what may be a relict piece of
the K-T impactor. I don't know if it was formally published elsewhere.
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?1996LPI27..717Kamp;data_type=PDF_HIGHamp;type=PRINTERamp;filetype=.pdf
jeff
At 10:12 AM
Hullo
On a more serious note, and I think I have asked this question before but I
do not recall any answers - I was looking at my Mt. Taz again and checking
out the vacuoles that spongify (!) the rock - so what gases were inside the
rock to create the pores (like Ibitira).
I can understand gases
Michael; I hope you can read this through your shaking eyes because i know you
must be scared out of your wits.Ha!This bozo must be extremely intelligent to
have thought of such a money making enterprise as this.wow! far out man...Too
much crack.I guess it takes all kinds.Watch your back and
My vote is meteorwrong.And a thought on the subject of the velocity of the
object.If the object had enough cosmic velocity to penetrate a
roof,ceiling,crack tiles and bounce to embed itself in a wall would it not have
to be disengaged from a larger mass of sufficient size to retain much of its
Hi José-
There's no doubt that the vast majority of meteors last at most a few
seconds. But there is a class of fireballs which are usually seen in the
early evening, produced by low eccentricity prograde bodies. When these
bodies enter at a shallow angle, they can produce fireballs that are
Note here, the ability to speck does not make one intelligent. :-)
ha hahahaa!! Good one!
From: almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ...thank heavens for the Metlist digest...
Date: Sat, 06 Jan
At least you freely admit it now.
Mike Farmer
--- M come Meteorite Meteorites
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have put some fake meteorites on ebay and some
italian and international minerals, for who want go
here
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=mcomemeteorite
This bozo must be extremely intelligent to have thought of such a money
making enterprise as this.
Its not entirely original, but Michael's tormentor upped the price...
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:PuN_OkyZc74J:answers.yahoo.com/rss/catq
A timely cartoon - Frank Ernest, January 6, 2007
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/franknernest/archive/
- John
John Kashuba
Ontario, California
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Hello Michael and List,
I received the same email yesterday but had deleted it after reading the
first couple words. After Michael posted his scam email, I went back and
re-read it. They were the same. So Michael, I guess we better get together
and eliminate this jackass first before he/she
Has it really been 3 years since PROUD TOM came on the
scene?And has it also been only 3 years since that
famous meteorite rock group,FARIES AND THE STRUCK
ONES?I am sure you all know which ones I am specking
off.Please let me if I am wrong!I would have to have a
broken to my face.OH well,the good
I guess some never change
Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
So guessed HE, and spoke it out!
Wise words - wise man!
Btw: Good luck all you guys and gals in Tucson!
Alex
Berlin/Germany
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Dear List,
Just letting you know that I won't have a chance to update the Tucson
Information page until next Tuesday.
Also, unless you see Dates and Contact Information listed, the
entries are carryovers from last year so
there may be Hotel and Room # changes.
Hello list.I know that there has not been alot of this
meteorite to go around,but I still have a 4 gram
fragment.But on ebay I see our famous italian stallion
has a 6 gram slice for $450.WOW!!!Over $350 a
gram.WOW!!!I traded 10 small meteorites to get my
piece,and they did not even cost half of
our famous italian stallion ...
Steve, would you please refrain from such personal deflations
of other list members' ego! I thought we did not want to start
it all over again in 2007!
In a private mail you told me your name was not Chicago Steve
but Steve Arnold, which I respect (or at least try
128 hours...
Ah ummm I believe there are several on ebay just
now.
--- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello list.Are there any small,30 to 50 gram
complete
individuals forsale?I have not seen any.
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Wow! a collection of 50mm meteorite spheres. You don't take the easy road!
Thanks for sharing the photos. Tom
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In a message dated 1/6/2007 7:21:13 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom wrote:
Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market?
Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by
the Nomenclature Committee only this past
Steve,
WOW Get some new batteries for your calculator. Six grams selling for
$450 does not equal over $350 per gram. WOW!!!
Dave
- Original Message -
From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject:
Greg wrote:
I received the same email yesterday but had deleted
it after reading the first couple words. After Michael
posted his scam email, I went back and re-read it.
They were the same.
You might want to look at the 2005 Ig Noble Award
for Literature at:
Hi List,
I just wanted to let everyone know that meteorite-dealers.com not only will
list your
dealer listings for free, but has gone completely sponsor free, with the
exception of
some recommended reading tagged to our Amazon.com account. In an effort to be
more
community minded we felt
Is this old new?
-
NATION IN BRIEF / NEW JERSEY
Tiny meteorite crashes into house
From Times Wire Reports
January 6, 2007
A mysterious object that crashed through the roof of a home and landed in
the bathroom was a meteorite, experts said. No one was injured.
For now, scientists are
Tom wrote:
Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market?
Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by
the Nomenclature Committee only this past October, I would imagine there
are likely other relict meteorites in our collections which have not
on 1/4/07 7:18 PM, Gerald Flaherty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Syracuse fall
which hit the woman [Spell check Ga not NY]
Jerry Flaherty
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on 1/4/07 7:18 PM, Gerald Flaherty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Syracuse fall
which hit the woman [Spell check Ga not NY]
Jerry Flaherty
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for your e-mail. I fully agree with what you say.
The updated ground path of the re-entering debris of the 2nd satage of the
russian Soyuz SL-4 rocket on your site is most interesting.
as well as, the video and the picture of this event caught by the camera at
Claudbait
Hi José-
The allsky network cameras are shown on the map as little orange beacons
(14 of them). Right above the word Colorado, west of Colorado Springs,
there are two cameras that are very close together. Cloudbait is the
northernmost one.
Chris
*
The Sardis Stone in Georgia is also a paleo meteorite
well Paleo find I believe there is a smidgen of iron
within the 12-20ft(?) diameter shale ball.
Elton
--- stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what about lake murray? wasnt that dug out from
solid limestone 100ft deep
or so?
I was wondering about Huckitta too Anne. Wolf Creek is another one that
comes to mind.
Cheers,
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:40 AM
Subject:
How long does it take to be considered paleo? All the means is old.
Please shed some light on this for me...
Matt Morgan
Mr EMan wrote:
The Sardis Stone in Georgia is also a paleo meteorite
well Paleo find I believe there is a smidgen of iron
within the 12-20ft(?) diameter shale ball.
Elton
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:47:26 -0700, you wrote:
How long does it take to be considered paleo? All the means is old.
Please shed some light on this for me...
Yeah, no kidding. I have a bunch of stuff that I got in a cheap lot on Ebay
(not from any of the list members, I think) that sure looks
Norbert, I remember everyone oohing and ahhing over it
in Ensisheim and Saint Marie. Too bad it wasnt Lunar
after all, but oh well, you can't win them all. Either
way, it is a stone that has it all.
I put all the pieces in a box last year and seem to
have filed it under LOSE because I only found
--- Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How long does it take to be considered paleo? All
the means is old.
Please shed some light on this for me...
Matt Morgan
I dont think that Paleo is a proper way to describe
them as these meteorites are not paleolithic.
Paleolithic is an era starting
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:41:40 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
I dont think that Paleo is a proper way to describe
them as these meteorites are not paleolithic.
Paleolithic is an era starting just before mesolithic
Paleo just means old-- paleolithic is the old stone age. Also used in
paleozoic.
Hi Dean and List
Dean, I do agree. Paleo-anything has an anthropomorphic connotation about
it. Relic has a manmade feel to it. Fossil denotes something once extent,
now dead and what we have are it's mineralized bones and traces.
Prius means before, maybe that would be less of a problem.
Mark
Hello Dean and List,
The NWA 2828 abstract and my eBay description I referenced a couple days ago
clearly state Fossil Meteorite is the preferred term by many scientists
when it comes to NWA 2828, its pairings and other Paleo or Fossil
meteorites (I agree with this term the more I understand
Hi Mark, Dean and List,
Boy, I should have started from scratch when I re-loaded my previously
unsold eBay auctions of NWA 2828 Fossil EL3 meteorite. I've already
corrected the TKW of 2828 and referenced pairings. Now I notice I
overlooked changing Paleo to Fossil.
Back to the revise
Hi Greg
I know fossil comes from to dig or something on that order, and it's a
ready choice given the popular knowledge of the word. But, in this case
scientists shouldn't be overly concerned how the general public understands
it, what with other terms they use to describe meteorites and rocks
Greg Hupe wrote:
Hi Mark, Dean and List,
Boy, I should have started from scratch when I re-loaded my previously
unsold eBay auctions of NWA 2828 Fossil EL3 meteorite. I've already
corrected the TKW of 2828 and referenced pairings. Now I notice I
overlooked changing Paleo to Fossil.
Hi David, Mark and List,
I think the general thought and consensus for Fossil on NWA 2828 and
pairings was due to the information that some of this material (mostly blue
coloring) was dug up from under a layer of other differently altered
material (mostly brown material). I am not a scientist,
To all who are interested in this:
In geology we use the term weathered or altered for rocks where the
*majority* of minerals have been replaced by a weathering product
(Fe-oxides, usually, in the case of chondritic meteorites). If the rock
is a real basket case we put the word severely in
RE: [meteorite-list] some Japanese researchers question US Colorado fallHi
Robert Matson,
You have stated the issue quite clearly! Certainly, the video alone is a good
evidence against it being a meteor.
I recall the wide publicity all over, given to SKYLAB re-entry in 1979. At that
time,
Thanks for posting this article.which exasperates.
SCIENTIFIC METHOD AT RUTGERS?
There is very little about the New Jersey object that resembles a
freshly fallen meteorite. It's shape is so ambiguous---at best---
that the only possible way to determine whether it was a freshly
Hi Darryl,
Oh I agree. I'm curious about how the real analysis will turn
out. I used the term fusion crust before when I said I saw none on
the suspected object, maybe that was the wrong term. I saw no dark
material on it indicating a space origin. Looked to clean to me.
By the way, my
NATION IN BRIEF / NEW JERSEY
Tiny meteorite crashes into house
From Times Wire Reports
January 6, 2007
A mysterious object that crashed through the roof of a home
and landed in the bathroom was a meteorite, experts said.
No one was injured.
For now, scientists are calling the dense metallic
Hello McCartney, All,
I doubt its meteoric origin as well.
I've personally seen a number of other fresh iron falls and all that had
been recovered recently after falling had been beautifully fusion crusted,
if not on all surfaces, then all save one or two. This other side or two
have always
Hello Everyone:
I am new to the list, and I need a hand. I've received some of the latest
digests, and I'm sure you know what it is like to walk in on the middle of a
conversation. If you wouldn't mind bringing me up to speed, I would greatly
appreciate it.
I'm the director of a
Thats one incredible meteorite Mike. Hope you have more awesome meteorites to
peruse at the Tucson show.
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the same I have request with my meteorites, now I ask
to who have italian meteorites in the personal
collections to inform me on the weights, thanks
Matteo
M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site:
you need a italian translation?
Matteo
--- almitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
Hi Dave and all,
Note here, the ability to speck does not make one
intelligent. :-)
I think that Matteo uses some type of translation
software.
--AL
Dave Harris wrote:
..otherwise I would have
Bernd but I am a stallion with girls ;-)
bye
Matteo
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
our famous italian stallion ...
Steve, would you please refrain from such personal
deflations
of other list members' ego! I thought we did not
want to start
it all over again in 2007!
In a private
why if a person have buy now have the piece for the
actual price have for low, after if confirmed Aubrite
the price go up and not buy for the same price of now
Matteo
--- stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
the auction has close and when the first complete
analysis its ready I put again
happy you to take the same if a similar idiot bid on
your auctions and after not pay.
Matteo
--- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
Number 1: I believe this is an issue between YOU and
EBAY in accordance with the Ebay standard practice
and
terms of service agreement.
Number 2: ... It
probably for steve arnold the mathematics is not an
opinion seen 400$ : 6 grams = 66.66$/gr. and not
$350/gr..second, this is the last piece, the
others pieces its all go sold. 3th when I put a photo
and a description in a acution you buy what you seen
and not type you when I have buy from you
Hey Guys,
Check this map out:
_http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=addressaddtohistory=address=;
city=state=njzipcode=country=USgeodiff=1_
(http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=addressaddtohistory=address=city=state=njzipcode=country=
USgeodiff=1)
Freehold is only one
OK Doug,
So it would have to burn coming in. I gotcha that far.
So...
Where was the fireball?Did no one at all see one?
Where was the sonic boom? Did no one at all hear one?
Where are the flowlines on the blue-black metal surface?
If it is from an interior piece of a late in flight
I remember when NWA 2910 first came back from cutting. I went over to
Mike's
to paw through all the slices. I have always been partial to impact melts
and this is a real beauty. I had a hard time picking out which slice I
wanted,
they were all pretty amazing. At the time it still
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170067285874
+
http://www.bestinflight.net/
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/04/national/main2329388.shtml
;-)
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Why not take advantage of all the hassle paleontologists have already gone
through and name each one after the epoch it can be best identified with?
Bill
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Yes, this one smells funny to me. The one thing I like
though, is the non-stop publicity on every TV station
in the USA! I must have received calls from just about
everyone I know asking me if I was buying this thing!
It could be a fall I guess, but just looking at the
piece makes me think of
Under this NomCom guideline NWA2828 isn't relict as
it is hardly altered and should be referred to as a
paleo meteorite. (Note:If this gets too drawn out all
meteoritic material is paleo as most is 4.5 billion
years old). However, paleo is a best choice of the
three proposed terms.
My take on
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:45:27 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Yes, this one smells funny to me. The one thing I like
though, is the non-stop publicity on every TV station
in the USA! I must have received calls from just about
everyone I know asking me if I was buying this thing!
It could be a fall I guess,
Greg,
I think I know who it is. We'll get him in Tucson..
(JOKE!) Not cool to joke around about murder mayhem.
Sorry.
I agree with what others have said - I have no doubt some people
will take this scam seriously and be quite emotionally wracked
by it. This is NOT
What I see is This:..You Nutjobs..have Attracted a Nut job..What With all the constant argueing,carrying on etc..Anybody can join this list..n sit n watch..you guys take this CRAP to the Exteremes!!!..WHY DON"T YOU ALL GROW THE HELL UP!!!...Damn!..My BestKevin.
From:Michael L Blood [EMAIL
Gee, Kevin,
Sorry to hear you consider everyone on the list a nut job.
Guess it is always good to get a clear headed and objective
assessment from someone such as yourself.
Thanks for setting us all strait.
Michael
on 1/6/07 11:15 PM, kevin decker at [EMAIL
I want seen who give 200$/gr. for a NWA eucrite when
with similar money I have historical eucrites seen
fallen
Matteo
Yes Matteo, but they don't look like this one either. Different people
collect different things. I like shock melts. I paid $200/gm for this in
2005 and don't regret it a
Hi,
This is clearly a case where the terminology
has not caught up with what's being described.
There are many ways in which a Meteorite can
age over a geologically significant time period,
or a very short time, for that matter.
The term fossil not only applies to ancient
materials
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