All,
Thanks for your all your comments on and off list, most interesting. I
think i am being steered
away from directly labelling my stones unless they are NWA or
unclassified. However it seems a bit of a double standard that if i
were to label my specimens myself it would be somehow frowned upon
Shawn, James, List,
While it is radiologically safe to possess and
display trinitite after this interval, handling
it could conceivably be unwise, depending
on the nature of the sample, the degree of
vitrification and the physical integrity of the
sample. The danger is that of a small particle
I have said this before and I am saying it again! The meteorite comunnity needs
to take some lessons from the rare coin dealers and start sellling specimens in
packages with standards. Hermatically sealed specimens of standard size and
provanance, sealed in thin collector sized cases. To create
Hi Paul,
Following on from your information about bog ironI was recently shown a
picture by a friend who had visited Orkney, off the coast of Scotland. It
showed a rock labeled as a meteorite in a cabinet at the museum there. I had
never heard of that before and followed it up with emails
Hi Steve,
I have to say that I disagree in relation to 'slabbing' meteorites as is done
in coin market. For me as a collector I collect for the variety and difference
in specimens and would definitely not want a display cabinet filled with
identical sized specimens lined up like dominoes. That
Hi Michael, Steve and group,
I have to agree with Michael here. The investment value of a specimen
is secondary (or tertiary) to my other reasons for collecting. As for
the IMCA - any statement of authenticity would only be worth the paper
it's on. Certificates of authenticity have been
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Hi Sterling and List,
Yes, your home smoke detector contains material that is far more
radioactive than trinitite. Trinitite is an alpha emitter, but a very
weak one. Handling it is OK, within reason. Don't ingest it or allow
it to enter the mucus membranes or an open cut. I generally keep
I have said this before and I am saying it again! The meteorite
comunnity needs to take some lessons from the rare coin dealers and start
sellling
specimens in packages with standards. Hermatically sealed specimens of
standard size and provanance, sealed in thin collector sized cases. To
Hi Paul and List,
Thanks for the trinitite links! A couple of those are new to me. Now
I have something to read today. :)
Best regards,
MikeG
On 2/27/10, Paul Heinrich oxytropidoce...@cox.net wrote:
In the thread [meteorite-list] Who is Dr. LaPaz at
Hello Steve,
My opinion is pretty much the opposite from yours.
standard size and provenance
Province would be okay, but I would not collect meteorites if they came in
standard sizes. I like variety
To create an investor market
I don't really want investors to get involved in the
Hi Shawn and all,
I am sure that some people will disagree with my assessment of LaPaz, but he
organized the collection at the UNM in Albuquerque, New Mexico and seem to
want to discredit Dr. Nininger every chance he got. While he did contribute
some to the understanding of meteorites he was no
Hi Shawn and all,
I am sure that some people will disagree with my assessment of LaPaz, but he
organized the collection at the UNM in Albuquerque, New Mexico and seem to
want to discredit Dr. Nininger every chance he got. While he did contribute
some to the understanding of meteorites he was
Agreed Martin!
And btw. meteorites are a kind of natural products.
Anyway Steve,
meteorite collecting is quite the safest field of colleting of all.
Nowhere else there are so strict requirements for the authentication of the
collectible items.
A quadruple safety you have:
1. New finds and
Good Morning Martin and List,
I truly believe that we homo sapiens have a well developed ability to remember
past beneficial and not so beneficial actions accomplished by our predecessors
in order to guide us when important decisions have to be made.
What was good enough for the likes of
The sirens just went off; Hawaii is expecting a tsunami by 11:00 a.m. locally.
We have about 5 hours to evacuate if needed. I'm bugging out after we pack and
will be offline for a while. The big problem locally is if the power plant
gets inundated, as it is in the flood plain/ central
While his contributions were many, I understand LaPaz's egotistical,
toxic personality is well documented---including his enmity for
Nininger.
Best/ Darryl
On Feb 27, 2010, at 9:57 AM, al mitt wrote:
Hi Shawn and all,
I am sure that some people will disagree with my assessment of
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:33:27 +, you wrote:
The sirens just went off; Hawaii is expecting a tsunami by 11:00 a.m.
locally. We have about 5 hours to evacuate if needed. I'm bugging out after
we pack and will be offline for a while. The big problem locally is if the
power plant gets
Wow! Thanks for the link Darren. Looks like Hawaii misses the brunt of the
full force, but our brothers and sisters in Marquesas, Tahiti and Samoa may
feel it more.
On Feb 27, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Darren Garrison wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:33:27 +, you wrote:
The sirens just went
Hello dear meteorite collectors,
a few days ago i got the final classification to my new and incredibly fresh
R-chondrites.
This material has a level of weathering W0!!
R-chondrites are known to be very rare.
And much more rarely with a weathering Level W0.
The known 1645 NWA numbers could be
Things are getting pretty busy here on Oahu. Lines at gas stations are
horribly long. Boats are evacuating harbors...The City County has evacuation
busses going around the island…the Fire Department is doing evacuation
rounds…almost everything is closed...and there's still crazy people out
The U.S. Embassy in Tokyo is transmitting the following information through the
Embassy's warden system as a public service to all U.S. citizens in Japan.
Please disseminate this message to U.S. citizens in your organizations or to
other Americans you know.
On Saturday, February 27, 2010, an
Hello Count, Martin and List,
I agree with the Count about painting numbers on specimens. As he points
out, Lylle, Huss, Nininger, and others have done it, and so do many museums.
I worked (volunteered) with the Curator of Collections in our local Science
Museum in 2008 to inventory their
Things are getting pretty busy here on Oahu. Lines at gas stations are
horribly long and several gas stations have run out of gas already. Boats are
evacuating harbors...The City County has evacuation busses going around the
island. The coastal roads will close in an hour. There's still
Hey Gary, Matthew, Dirk, Darren and any others living in the predicted path of
the tsunami,
Why fight the highways and byways? If you, or a friend, has a decent sport
fishing boat, or a cat, stock it with beer and pretzels and park a mile, or so
off shore and watch the action. Your only
Here in new zealand we are supposed to get hit in about an hour and a halfs
time but there is none of the activity like you guys in Hawaii has and other
than to avoid low lying areas there is no evacuation order. In some Islands
down south is being taken more seriously
Cheers
DEAN
--- On
Al, List,
History always decides these rivalries. There will
never be a posting on this (or any other) List with
the subject Who is Harvey Nininger!
Sterling K. Webb
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- Original Message -
From: al mitt
Remember this, When the government need advice they called on LaPaz, not
Nininger! What does that tell you?
- Original Message
From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net
To: al mitt alm...@kconline.com; Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com;
Just in a few hours I have some no reserve auctions ending with very low bids.
Also, I am accepting any offers on a very nice 7 kilo unclassified with sweet
fusion crust! It looks like a giant Gao.
Please see me store here:
http://stores.ebay.com/Mile-High-Meteorites
Thanks for looking,
Matt
Hello list,
Does anyone have a workable email address for Rodrigo Martinez?
Thomas
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The tsunami is late, but recession of the
sea leavel seems to have begun.
Sterling K. Webb
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We are past the ETA of the first waves to arrive, with no significant effects
of the tsunami. But there are some large swells sighted on West Hawai'i
island. Honoli'i Bay, my local surf break has been picking up in surf at the
point.
Hawai'i island police have evacuated all low lying areas
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:46:30 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
Here in new zealand we are supposed to get hit in about an hour and a halfs
time but there is none of the activity like you guys in Hawaii has and other
than to avoid low lying areas there is no evacuation order. In some Islands
down south
Hi, James,
It tells me that they knew LaPaz because [In 1942,]
LaPaz took leave from Ohio State to the New Mexico
Proving Ground during World War II where he was a
Research Mathematician, and later as Technical Director,
Operations Analysis Section, Second Air Force. This is
where he became
Hi Sterling! Yes you are right! I have known about LaPaz since the 50's and
he was well connected. Tesla also got the shaft by Edison but was well known
by the government. Someone here said that Lapaz was not important and we all
know that that is far from the truth.
- Original
Hello List
I have add some good stones for sale; enjoy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34600...@n07/
who's intressing contact me of the list.
best wishes
Aid
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Greetings list,
It seems to me that even if we paint numbers on our specimens, their
identification still relies on whether or not our documentation accompanies
them. A number #47.02A doesn't mean anything to future generations unless
there is a catalog to indicate what it means. And if all
Hi Sterling:
No, you are not paying for it twice. The government (we) pay for the
research, but do not pay for the publication costs. I do not think that
Science has page charges for authors, so someone has to pay the people who
run the magazine, print it, and distribute it (real jobs). Also,
Ed, Count and list,
I'd like to second the count's and Ed'd considerations regarding numbering your
specimens. Of course most private collectors recognize their individual
meteorites. Mix ups are not so much a problem during one's lifetime. At least
not unless we don't start to juggle with a
Well, hundreds of people here in Auckland camped out on a hill waiting for the
tsunami. A dozen or so people refused to heed the warning and graciously stayed
on the beach so that we could all have good video. A cruise ship was moved from
the pier and anchored off in the harbour and all ferries
Hello All,
When we decided that we wanted to start numbering our specimens a few
years ago, we had a few dilemmas to work out. First-off, how should
we apply the numbers? Some of the museum numbers that we'd seen
seemed to have a layer of underlying paint with numbers painted over,
resulting in
Hey Jason and List,
Thanks for that very informative cataloging solution. I have also been
pondering how to mark meteorites, fossils and artifacts without having to
use the white matt paint with black ink overtop. I always thought this old
way was rather ugly and distracting from specimens.
Jason,
Very good point. Nothing should ever be done to these little treasures that is
not reversible.
In other words it should be done with something that will come off later should
the need ever arise.
Carl .
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Dear List Members,
To my surprise and dismay to a few eBay watchers, all but one of the NWA
5297 specimens sold out so far so I loaded the rest that I have above
1/4-gram in case you were interested in one of these Ungrouped Achondrites!
One 1/2-gram piece has two large metal grains!
Looks
1. Hamacher, D.W., and P. P. Norris, 2009, Australian
Aboriginal Geomythology: eyewitness accounts of
cosmic impacts? Archaeoastronomy. vol. ??, No. ??,
pp. ??-??.
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