Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread martin goff
Hi Ed, Svend, Jason, all, Very good points indeed and interesting reading. Theres a lot to chew over there but looks like i may be taking the plunge and starting the process at some point. Thanks very much for all your considered and informative replies Regards Martin

[meteorite-list] Special Tungsten Carbide Scale Cube NWA 482 Lunar Auction - Ad

2010-02-28 Thread Jeff Kuyken
G'day all, I have just listed a couple of auctions this week. The first is the lunar Tungsten Carbide Scale Cube WC#0482 with a sample of NWA 482 to match the serial. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120537125592 The second auction is for the 288g Main Mass of NWA 5978

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread The Tricottet Collection
Hello, I would like to disagree with everyone here. If we all start painting numbers on meteorites, in 2-3 generations, all specimens will be full of useless graffiti - who will know which number matches which minor collection? So the problem would remain exactly the same. When I say minor, I

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Greg Hupe
Hello Arnaud, You wrote, I would like to disagree with everyone here. If we all start painting numbers on meteorites, in 2-3 generations, all specimens will be full of useless graffiti -... I should clarify my comments on labeling specimens of meteorites, fossils or artifacts. At this

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Arnaud, All, I agree with you - to an extent. While we have inked many of our specimens, we have never sold a single meteorite (and the few we've traded were never marked). With so many collectors buying, selling, and trading collection pieces, I can easily visualize the numbering situation

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Jeff Kuyken
I would tend to agree with Arnaud and I don't think everyone painting their own numbers is a good idea... at all! It would seem that identity is the driving factor here and the only way it would work is if there was a standard system. You would only need one common number for each meteorite.

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Jeff, Yes - hence I said unless, of course, there is a universal system off of which numbers can be derived. But that's not going to happen. It won't happen. We already have a numbering system for our collection, and it's not changing. And every other university and museum has its own

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread ensoramanda
Hi All, Thanks Martin for bringing up this subject...very interesting to see what the general consensus is. Arnaud...I agree that we would not want lots of numbers covering historical stones...but I don't think that would happen. If you had a stone with a Huss or any other number then there

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread ensoramanda
Hi All, Thanks Martin for bringing up this subject...very interesting to see what the general consensus is. Arnaud...I agree that we would not want lots of numbers covering historical stones...but I don't think that would happen. If you had a stone with a Huss or any other number then there

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread ensoramanda
Hi Jeff A universal system sounds a great idea. Infact in many ways all the NWA numbers, Sahara etc could be used as is, with extra numbers for 'named' meteorites. Graham Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote: I would tend to agree with Arnaud and I don't think everyone painting

Re: [meteorite-list] Tsunami alert (Report)

2010-02-28 Thread Aubrey Whymark
--- On Sat, 27/2/10, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote: Nothing to report from the Philippines either after staying away from the beach all day! Better to be safe than sorry though. From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tsunami alert (Report)

[meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite - July 2009

2010-02-28 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Thought I would post this as the most recent Monthly Favourite in response to Mike's breccia email (below) a few days ago: http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/july2009.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite

[meteorite-list] CAI's - Formation Age

2010-02-28 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi List, I can't recall exactly how old most CAI's are. I know they were formed a few million years before chondrules, but does anyone have a more precise age for these? I think it was around 4.6+ billion years, give or take a few minutes? Best regards, MikeG --

Re: [meteorite-list] Who is Dr. LaPaz

2010-02-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Al all, the relationship between Nininger, LaPaz and Leonard is quite well depicted in that more recent article by H.Plotkin R.S.Clarke Jr: http://kuerzer.de/PazNinLeo What we see from our historic angle of view is a story of missed chances. Nininger was no saint, though he was obsessed

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread meteoriteman
Hi everyone, Thought I'd throw in my two cents on this interesting topic. First, painting numbers on a meteorite for identification purposes is only good if you have a master sheet that translates that number into a specific meteorite. If that sheet is lost the painted number is useless. I

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Jim and List, I used a Dremel tool to carefully carve and identification number into all of my specimens. I put the name of the specimen, date, origin, type, what I paid for it, catalogue number, and 5 things I like about it using only adjectives. All of this information is carved in letters

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Me too, as a professional I'm aware of the rareness of meteoritic specimens, sometimes they are unique and irreplaceable - and I'm aware of the often enormous endeavours it took, to recover such stones and the circumstances until they finally landed in my custody (yes also for the

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread meteoriteman
Mike and list, You can also drill a hole into it and insert a chip like they use for pet identification. Then epoxy over it. :) Jim K - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

[meteorite-list] Thankfully, the tsunami was a dud

2010-02-28 Thread tracy latimer
Thank you everyone for your well wishes -- Hawaii was lucky, and what could have been catastrophic turned out to be merely a good test of emergency procedures, both state and personal.  We now return you to your regularly scheduled meteorite discussions! Best! Tracy Latimer

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread rocks
I'm not sure if anyone else remembers this, but there were some Muonionalusta etched slices on eBay about a year ago. They had the word MUONIONALUSTA etched in on one side in big letters - about six inches across. On the other side, they had something like 67°46'N, 23°15'E... this was also

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Noah and List, LOL, yes I recall those slices. There were some others that had abstract shapes on them. It looked like someone masked or taped off the design and then etched the face. And yes, they were hideous. LOL Best regards, MikeG On 2/28/10, ro...@projectargus.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Steve Witt
Kind of like this? http://cgi.ebay.com/METEORITE-MUONIONALUSTA-ORIGINAL-POLISHED-SLAB-267-8-g_W0QQitemZ160310539397QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item255340b485 Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sun, 2/28/10, ro...@projectargus.com ro...@projectargus.com wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] Radiation

2010-02-28 Thread fallingfusion
Here's a question for everyone. The answer may be simple, or it may be complex. Does anyone know if ANY meteorite has been found to contain ANY type, or level of radiation? From a solar radiation standpoint, I obviously understand that we are closer to the sun than the origin of most

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens:Alternate Approach

2010-02-28 Thread James Baxter
Hi Arnaud, Martin, et al., I'm with Arnaud and Martin on this one. If someone(other than Nininger) offers me a specimen with their collection number painted on it I will politely decline. To me the specimen without the number is far more aesthetically pleasing( and valuable). I, like Arnaud,

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Richard Kowalski
A very interesting discussion and very informative. I'm another person with individual stones that don't have any outward way of IDing them. Most of my collection are micros and this majority are encased in labeled membrane boxes, or for the larger slices and end cuts, appropriately sized

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens:Alternate Approach

2010-02-28 Thread GeoZay
I, like Arnaud, photograph and record the weight of all specimens. This is exactly what I do. The title of my file is simply, George Zay Meteorites. I usually keep 4 to 6 photos of each meteorite from various angles and perspectives. I number each photograph in sequence. For example, I

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread cdtucson
Too bad they don't show this sellers face. He also has an L etched to his forehead. Too funny. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Kind of like this?

Re: [meteorite-list] Radiation

2010-02-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Ryan, yes. But you need very sensible detectors (and often a lt of time) to measure the radiation of meteoritic samples.. My standard reply to laymen - who very often ask that question (remember also all these newspaper articles after a possible new fall, where police ect. comes with

Re: [meteorite-list] Thankfully, the tsunami was a dud

2010-02-28 Thread Linton Rohr
Good news, indeed, Tracy. And Gary, and Mathew, and all our other Pacific dwelling friends. That could have been nasty. I recall hiking Kauai's Na Pali coast, and trudging up, up, up the hills from the beach. After perhaps 10 minutes of climbing, I'd see those prominent signs stating that if I

Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Ungrouped Achondrite - NWA 5297

2010-02-28 Thread Linton Rohr
The flashlight helps in that the lighting is almost always the same whether I am in a mud dwelling in the Sahara, or in a dealer room at the Tucson Show. Definitely. That flashlight's a great idea, Greg. Clean, bright, white light no matter where you are. I would have never thought it possible

Re: [meteorite-list] CAI's - Formation Age

2010-02-28 Thread Carl 's
Hi Mike, I don't have a precise age but now they may be a few million years younger: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/comet-inner-solar-system-material.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed:+spaceheadlines+%28SPACE.com+Headline+Feed%29utm_content=My+Yahoo Carl2

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery unclassified stone meteorite - what is it?

2010-02-28 Thread cdtucson
This looks a bit like it to me. MikeG this might be your lucky day? see link. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/shisr166.htm Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg and List, Here are two more photos showing

[meteorite-list] AD: Some special items - Impact Breccia Meteorites

2010-02-28 Thread eric
Hi Everyone, No meteorite collection is complete without some impact breccia to show the devastating power of a massive asteroid impact. I've listed a few spectacular polished full silces and end cuts of this wonderful material. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/tucson/ Also, I'm offering

[meteorite-list] CAI's - Formation Age

2010-02-28 Thread Shawn Alan
Mike G and Listers, I would put CAI's at (4567.2 ± 0.6 Ma) which is 4.5672 billion years+- .6Ma. This date is sourced from. Meteoritics Planetary Science 42, Nr 7/8, 1321–1335 (2007) Abstract available online at http://meteoritics.org Pb isotopic age of the Allende chondrules Yuri

[meteorite-list] CONGRATS TO CANADIAN LIST MEMBERS!

2010-02-28 Thread Darryl Pitt
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Re: [meteorite-list] CONGRATS TO CANADIAN LIST MEMBERS!

2010-02-28 Thread fallingfusion
Agh... and Crosby got the winning goal. Go figure! Oh well. Congratulations on the gold medal. Ryan Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: What a game! __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] CONGRATS TO CANADIAN LIST MEMBERS!

2010-02-28 Thread tett
Woho!!!1 Canada is going nuts right now! Congratulations to the USA. This game could have easily gone the other way. tett Darryl Pitt wrote: What a game! __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Impacts and Australian AboriginalGeomythology

2010-02-28 Thread Jerry Flaherty
Paul, thank you for presenting this material. I know at least one List member will be familiar with this information, Mr. Grodine [forgive any misspelling]. Loving these dates, even the conservative ones. Such archeological and mythological investigations help to substantiate Hopes many of we

[meteorite-list] AD - Some Updates, and Almahata Sitta

2010-02-28 Thread Impactika
Hello everybody, I hope you all enjoyed your weekend. While you were all watching something on TV, I worked on my website. No, I did not add all the great pieces I picked up in Tucson, that will take a while longer, and quite a few were not up to my standards (I am picky!) so they will get

[meteorite-list] Hand axe made from a meteor?

2010-02-28 Thread Kurt Kangas
I have always wondered what I found about 30 years ago in Clear Lake California. It was definitely a tool, made by a local Clear Lake Indian, perhaps Miwok, and perhaps anywhere between 500 to 15,000 years old. The tool was obviously a hand axe which showed excellent workmanship, it was

[meteorite-list] What kind of Meteorite do I have?

2010-02-28 Thread Paul Heinrich
Dear Friends, Someone on this list might want to help out a person on Yahoo Answers, who is in need of an answer and some reality about a rock that he has. The question can be found inWhat kind of Meteorite do I have? at:

[meteorite-list] What kind of Meteorite do I have?

2010-02-28 Thread Shawn Alan
Paul and Listers,   From my understanding a picture is worth a thousand words. With this said,I think this link would be great for him to check out at Geoffrey Notkin website http://www.aerolite.org/found-a-meteorite.htm It's a bird, it's a plane, no, it's Meteorite Men Shawn Alan  

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone, I don't like the idea of marking in any way a meteorite specimen. Over the years, I have bought planetary specimens from Jim Strope and I think Jim has a great way of producing an adequate paper record of a specimen. Jim scans the specimen and prints a COA with the scanned

[meteorite-list] Martin Altmann

2010-02-28 Thread Walter Branch
Martin, I think I accidently deleted your email to me. Would you please re-send it. Thanks. Everyone else, apologies -Walter Branch __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] Labeling specimens

2010-02-28 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hi Martin, List, 1. I just want to let you know that every specimen in EoM (http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/) has it's own and unique id number! I'm not saying that storing specimen info in EoM is a perfect solution for every collector. But with some extensions it might be an idea to