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Well said,
Graham
On 10 March 2011 05:38, habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote:
hello all,
first i want to say that this is good news that two big hunters are home with
there family,and enjoying life again,very happy to har this fantastic news
after spending two month in a bad dream,
Hiya,
I'm traveling overseas and thought I would take a peek at my beloved list.
Michael, the degree of invective expressed is outrageous. Regardless of what's
disclosed in the archives---and I'm not going to look---it's grotesquely
inappropriate to resurrect such information under any
The Murchison Meteorite at 535.9 grams from The Macovich Collection.
Estimate: $42,500 - up, has a reserve bid of $32,500.00 USD. The floor
auction is June, 11, 2011.
http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046
Enjoy,
Brian
There might be a delay in my postings and receipt of emails but.
Michael, again, your assessment of another's well being is outrageous. For
starters, you are not qualified. And if you were, the very first thing you
would never do is post such musings to this list---for which you would
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_10_2011.html
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Thanks to everyone who answered my questions yesterday. Usually my posits
get summarily ignored.
I now regret asking. I wish this one had been ignored.
-Walter
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Dear List,
Two reports of Tempe/Phoenix AZ Fireball 3:30am 10MAR2011
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/tempe-phoenix-az-large-fireball-330-am.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Deserts are ideal to find meteorites by Loveday
Morris, The National, United Arab Emirates, April
19, 2010
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/deserts-are-ideal-to-find-meteorites?pageCount=0
Hezel, D. C., J. Schluter, H. Kallweit, A. J. T. Jull, O. Y.
Al Fakeer, M. Al Shamsi, and S.
In the future, I shall seek to express my concerns in a
more constructive manor.
My wording was exceptionally poor in my response
To the idea of Mike's potential return to the list and it was
Even worse regarding my concerns for his well being.
I apologize to the list
Now this is a real Captain speaking again!
Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:34:15 -0800
Von: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
An: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] apologies
In the
Hello Capt. Blood,
Thank you for your post! We all make mistakes as we go through this thing
called life, what we do with what learn from them is a another matter. I for
one, make my share of them and learn by them.
Fair well my friend!
Best Regards,
Greg
Greg Hupe
The
Ditto and ditto.
Paul Swartz
Yay! Welcome back Mike and Robert!
Yes, Art, please let Mike post here again so we can all hear if Mike's new
diet plan was success or not.:D
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While I am in favor of Mike reporting to the list again about his most recent
adventure (..well, I am just curious about that personal story, I must
admit..), I am also inclined to generally recommend very moderate and polite
future postings here regarding this special issue, please.
This
List:
I think we should give Michael Farmer a chance... what about forgiveness and
giving people a second chance? If things get personal, then deal with it at
that point. I think his input to the list would be valuable since he is one of
the preeminent collectors and has had many unique
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 09:58:30 -0800, you wrote:
I think we should give Michael Farmer a chance...
Especially concidering that the reason he was kicked off in the first place was
for mentioning Steve Arnold's legal troubles on the list. Which, if one will
recall, was a topic of conversation by
Guys and Girls,
The list would (..and hopefully will) continue to remain a much calmer and
peaceful environment, provided that politics and religion, or another persons
health or legal issues, aren't discussed or even mentioned without said persons
consent to do so. Specifically, in regards to
Listees
Just thought I'd list a little Murchison for 99 cents since
there is so much talk of it.Only 31 mg but nice surface area
considering.
Murchison link http://is.gd/UuXQ3t
Some Gujba ,Limerick micro,Crumlin micro,nice 49 gram Canyon Diablo
all started at 99 cents
a few larger
For all of you fellow HED lovers, July will be an exciting time when DAWN
arrives at Vesta.
In anticipation of it's arrival, researchers at DLR have created a 3D model of
Vesta to drape the actual images on top of as they come in. The model
includes the shape and elevation data we already have
Hello Listers,
A couple weeks ago I made a post about the Weston fall and the rivalry between
Silliman and Woodhouse. What I didn't post is the analysis/ field study
report that was done by Silliman and Kingsley published in Transactions in 1809
and read in front of the American Philosophical
I fully agree with Alex.
This list is too important to be 'tainted' by any 'bad blood'.
Mutual respect and a fair way of resolving conflicts should be PRIORITY ONE.
I think I speak on behalf of most of us here on the list if I expect
the fundamental principles of fair communication to be
These may be steel balls from a ore processing ball mill.
Jim K
In a message dated 3/9/2011 11:09:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mstrema...@yahoo.com writes:
My first impression was marcasite which tends to form spheres such as this
but,
it isn't known for iridescence . It can't be
What follows is a quote from Benjamin Silliman, A Life in the Young
Republic. It was written by Chandos Michael Brown and published by
Princeton University Press, 1989. The book was referenced by Cathryn Prince
in her work A Professor, a President and a Meteor, but the following quote
was
March 9, 2011
Media Contact:
Ms. Louise Good
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Science Contact:
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Text Image:
http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/info/press-releases/Apophis2011Jan/
HAWAII ASTRONOMERS KEEP TABS ON ASTEROID APOPHIS
On January 31
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-075
Dawn Gets Vesta Target Practice
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
March 10, 2011
There is an old chestnut about a pedestrian who once asked a virtuoso
violinist near Carnegie Hall how to get to the famed concert venue. The
virtuoso's answer:
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news171.html
Asteroid 2005 YU55 to Approach Earth on November 8, 2011
Don Yeomans, Lance Benner and Jon Giorgini
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
March 10, 2011
[Graphic/Animation]
Trajectory of Asteroid 2005 YU55 - November 8-9, 2011
Near-Earth asteroid 2005 YU55
Hello,
Does anyone can give me an idea of cutting cost using a wire saw to cut a 300g
ordinary chondrite into 3mm slices?
Thanks!
Andre
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We charge 50-60/hr usually, and that includes the $1500.00 for the 1 km of
wire. Our Diamond Wire Tech saw cuts pretty fast compared to the Well saw. It
is difficult to give you an exact cost since each meteorite is different. I
would estimate 1-2 hrs per slice and that takes into account the
Aloha Andre,
Depending on the cost of the material, it may or may not be more cost effective
to use a wire saw. A wire saw is better for planetaries or other expensive or
rare meteorites, where cost of material is high, and so minimizing cut loss is
imperative. If the material is cheap, then
As a general rule of thumb, material 30.00/g or higher, may be best cut on a
wire saw. This is could be an OC. Probably not an iron. Of course pallasites
look great thin cut too.
Matt
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood,
Matt, Gary, and Listers,
What would be the best way to go for irons slices if you had lets say Tucson
iron and I have seen that go for $1000 a gram or lets say you have a 10gram
Compo and you want to make 200mg slices, what method would be the best for
that, not saying cutting up Compos to
HI List,
I'm not sure where this notion of large amount of loss with ordinary
lap saws is coming from. Perhaps it is true with large saws using
thick blades, but a 6-inch saw using a .012 blade generates very
little loss. When slicing a 100g stone, I expect about approx. 3-5g
of loss with my
I am wondering if anyone has had success getting a meteorite sliced by a
commercial water jet cutting machine? A friend of mine has a high grade
machine that cost him about a million dollars. If any water jet could do it,
I would imagine his could.
Thanks,
Abe Guenther
Took one to a machine shop with a water jet. They said when it hit an
inclusion it would likely blow the piece up. Don't know the ins and outs of
it but that's what they said.
Rob Wesel
www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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Hi List
I like to pay Your attention that diamnond wire saw is not best method for
irons. Much better idea how to cut irons (exclude pallasites) is EDM -
Electrical Discharge Machining
http://www.wireedm.com/wireedm.htm
http://www.mech.kuleuven.be/pp/research/edm
This can cut everything what
The optimal wire thickness for cutting stony meteorites to produce the
straightest cuts and longest wire life is about 250 um (that includes the
diamond coating on the wire). This is from my own experience. I can cut with
150 um wire, if needed. I stopped cutting irons and pallasites on the
Hi List,
Can someone tell me what the advantage of a diamond wire saw is, over
a conventional lap saw blade? I'm curious, because I have never used
a wire saw or seen one in operation.
I have seen slices made by a wire saw and they didn't look any
different (better or worse) than slices made
Judging from everything I have heard, from several different people
with experience, cutting irons seems like a major PITA. I have the
utmost respect for those who specialize in cutting and preparing
irons. Taking into account the time, labor, and expense, it's amazing
that anyone even bothers
I am wondering if anyone has had success getting a meteorite sliced by a
commercial water jet cutting machine? A friend of mine has a high grade
machine that cost him about a million dollars. If any water jet could do
it,
I would imagine his could.
Hi again
I have in nearest city water jet
We can cut a 6 x 6 x 18 piece with a 250 um wire. A skinny lap blade that
is 6, you can cut 3, maybe, if you don't use a rotisserie.
250 um is 0.009. On avg we lose 9 percent, but that depends on the depth of
cut, thickness of cut, wire diameter, material, etc. It definitely has
advantages
Hello Michael and List,
Your apology was forthright and sincere. Kudos to you.
I have also put my foot in my mouth many times over the years on this list
and I should know better. From recent memory, I owe apologies to Bill
Mason, Sonny Clary Geoff Notkin, and the entire Jet propulsion
Also the wire saw has industrial uses a lap saw couldn't handle. We have cut
big pure silicon blocks (6 tall) at 0.5mm thickness. Or how about a 5 x 12
block of spinel that costs 25,000, cut at 0.25mm thickness. A lap saw would
eat this material and send shards of glass everywhere. When
Hi Matt,
Thanks for the explanation. Do you have a photo of the wire-saw
setup, or is there a photo of one somewhere on the web? I'm curious
to see what it looks like.
Being able to cut a large 6x6x18 specimen using a wire as thin as
.009 is a definite advantage over using a conventional lap
That reminds me of the time I was slicing an indochinite into thin
transparent slices. Several slices came out very well. But, about
half-way through the slicing, the remaining endcut caught on the blade
and was hurled into the ceiling, where it shattered and showered me
with glassy shards.
I have a photo of a multi-wire saw we sometimes use on Kerfindustries.com (a
business of mine). The one we own is a single wire saw that costs about 65k
new.
Coolant can be either distilled water, distilled water with a surfactant (for
wire longevity), alcohol (yes!!), mineral oil, or
Michael, Greg, Matt..
Can someone tell me what the advantage of a diamond wire saw is, over
a conventional lap saw blade? I'm curious, because I have never used
a wire saw or seen one in operation.
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difference ? None :) Both cut good. hehe ok
Diamond blades:
+ very low cost
+ You
Hi Matt,
That is one impressive piece of machinery. At $65k, I think I'll wait
until Christmas-time to ask for one. :)
Best regards,
MikeG
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Website -
Interesting discussion regarding cutting. I did not realize the equipment
can be so expensive.
-Walter
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It seems the other half of the equation is being overlooked. Do not forget
about
polishing which is even more important than the cut as far as future
preservation and appearance are concerned.
It seems a lot of material being offered these days has no polish at all. Even
worse is that some
http://main.omanobserver.om/node/13322
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Hi Adam and List,
Good point about sanding and polishing.
I own a 6-inch lap saw, but I do not own a lap polisher. I do all of
my polishing by hand, going through progressive grits from 100/200 to
1500 and then finishing with rouge. It's VERY labor intensive and can
require several hours of
Seashells? Really? Every tourist coming to Florida would be arrested
if we had laws like that here.
Note to self - stay out of Oman.
On 3/10/11, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote:
http://main.omanobserver.om/node/13322
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I work with a guy that lived in Oman, and he told me that you don't break any
law - they are very serious about it. Like it or not, that's the way it is.
Greg S.
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On Mar 10, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
Seashells? Really? Every tourist
Great points Walter, and there's a large group of us who have been guilty of
same over the years. It's been interesting of late to watch the groundswell
of meteorite community activity on FACEBOOK -- and how that more personal
environment evidently mitigates, substantially, foot-in-mouth
Shawn,
Since you brought up the Silliman/Woodhouse topic again today,, I want to be
sure you understand that I am not trying to inflate the work of Woodhouse at
the expense of Silliman. I am trying to present a balanced perspective of
what both Woodhouse and Silliman accomplished.
If you
HI Dave and List,
I have only been on facebook since December after a couple years of prodding
by friends. I didn't know if I would like it at all and thought of it years
ago as some sort of gossip mill. I was completely wrong about that thought
and I rather like it, quite a bit! I agree with
Roger that Greg! For those on the metlist who are not on Facebook, you may
want to consider checking it out. You control which friends you interact with.
Don't like so-and-so? Don't friend him. Simple. On the other hand, there
are a lot of meteorite people on facebook, including hunters,
Greetings,
About ten years back I experimented with water jets for cutting
material. Besides the water they used garnet as the abrasive in the
water. There are different stream sizes they can use. Sizes don't come
to me as I am writing this from memory.
I cut some Odessa, Texas irons. Those
Hang on, Dirk!
GuysDirk is living through a nearly 8.0 earthquake as this is written. Lets
all hope and pray he and his loved ones are safe.
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536
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Initial estimate by the computers is 8.8! 230 mi NE of Tokyo.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/2011/usc0001xgp/
Be safe Dirk!
Rob H
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To:
USGS UPGRADES QUAKE TO 8.9
FOUR AFTER SHOCKS, ONE A 7.4
10 METER TSUNAMI WARNING
FOR PACIFIC AREA INCLUDING U.S.
STATE OF HAWAII
LAST 8.9 QUAKE WAS 2004 TSUNAMI
IN INDIAN OCEAN WHICH KILLED
235,000.
[AP] ...The quake that struck at 2:46 p.m. was followed by a series of
aftershocks,2:46 p.m.
Just heard on TV and online that the earthquake in Japan was upgraded to 8.9
from 8.8 with 10 meter Tsunamis off the coast.
I hope Dirk and others we know in Japan are alright.
All the best.
Brian
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42023385/ns/world_news-asiapacific/?gt1=43001
Hi All,
Just got off Skype with Dirk. He was asleep when it hit and pulled his heavy
futon over himself while everything thrashed about in his room. His wife was at
work and is reported safe. As he spoke to me there was a heavy aftershock that
made so much noise I could hear objects crashing
I've been watching the tsunami sweep across large portions of Japan. An
absolute tragedy. Pray for these people. They really need help.
Greg
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Tomasz Jakubowski just told me that he spoke with Dirk and that Dirk is ok.
Thanks to Tomasz for letting me know, so I thought I'd pass it along.
All the best to Dirk and everyone in Japan.
Brian
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Glad ot hear Dirk is OK.
Tsunami warning now extended to Hawai'i.
I grabbed the current USGS plot of the earthquake as displayed by Google Earth.
Apparently the area has been pretty active this past week. Anyone can take a
look here, even without a Facebook account.
Thanks for the update RIchard. A big shout out to all our Hawaii people, 3:00
am expected arrival time of potential tsunami. Ted, Matthew, Tracy and Dr
Murakami, I hope you guys are safe!
gary
On Mar 10, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote:
Glad ot hear Dirk is OK.
Tsunami warning
Be advised the warning is now for the US West coast too.
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Full Moon Photography
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--- On Fri, 3/11/11, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Japan 8.9 Earthquake
To: Richard Kowalski
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