[meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

I got a few positional images of this object with our 1.5-m (60) on Mt. Lemmon last night, but Jure Skvarč at the Črni Vrh Observatory in Slovenia obtained one of the nicer time lapse animations of the asteroids motion against the background stars. He writes on his Youtube page: The images

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA could sell...

Hi Sterling and List, Hmm, don't tempt me! (actually Iv'e already built a probe (well a Helium Baloon, with Gamma probe and electronics) to go to into Nearspace, but somehow I think a moon shot might take me a while!! Maybe one day i'll get around to making a set of Massive Laser tweezers,

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid 2011MD Bye-bye

Here's an image of 2011 MD I took yesterday morning some 5 hours before closest approach. It was already zipping fast (this is a 30 second exposure!): http://sattrackcam.blogspot.com/2011/06/ot-close-encounters-of-rocky-kind-2011.html I wholeheartedly agree with Rob: People are simply

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteorite recovery)

Hm Michael, question - if you haven't any atmosphere, which could slow down the incoming meteorids, how many would survive the impact with cosmic velocities, such rocks are typically travelling with in the inner solar system, to such a degree, that they would lie there in nice sizes usually

[meteorite-list] Middlesbrough meteorite impact pit cast

Hi all, I know lots of you now have a cast of the Middlesbrough meteorite so i thought you may be interested in seeing a cast of the Middlesbrough impact pit that i have acquired. Not yet mounted it properly in a display case but i plan on making a wooden crate which is how it was originally

Re: [meteorite-list] The Apollo Moon Rock Collection

Carl and all Listees Thank you for your erudite and well argued contribution. I could not agree more. Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Scotland tel: 0131 247 4283 e-mail:

Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks Matt Morgan - Mile High Meteorites

Hi Met-List Community, I want to personally thank Matt Morgan from Mile High Meteorites for helping me secure a beautiful Willamette meteorite (NOT shale) specimen for my private collection. I know many of you know Matt, but if you don't you should. He has to be one of the best people in the

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteorite recovery)

Hi Martin, I'm no expert, I only play one on the met-list. ;) But, meteoroids and micrometeoroids would arrive on a variety entry angles and velocities. Some at steeper angles and high speeds, others at shallow or oblique angles and lower speeds. (lower being relative) I agree that the more

[meteorite-list] Apollo Samples

Hi Phil: There are many scientists worldwide who study the Apollo samples, some of them right here in New Mexico! The samples can be requested through the Lunar Sample Curator at NASA JSC, Dr. Gary Lofgren. http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/sampreq/index.cfm The request (proposal) is then

Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

fantastic! thanks for sharing. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:24 AM, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: I got a few positional images of this object with our 1.5-m (60) on Mt. Lemmon last night, but Jure Skvarč at the Črni Vrh Observatory in Slovenia obtained one of the nicer time lapse

[meteorite-list] Sweden / Finland Meteor 27JUN2011

Dear List, A rather large event with flash, sonics, and twisted contrail(?). Dirk Ross...Tokyo http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/06/sweden-green-bolide-meteor-fireball.html Several other events for 25, 26, 27 June as well... so check them out if you wish:

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteorite recovery)

I have studied, literally, thousands of Apollo regolith samples. I've analyzed fines samples (1-mm grain-size fraction) taken every half centimeter down several core tubes, including the 2-m long Apollo 16 deep drill core. I've analyzed several thousand individual rock fragments in the

Re: [meteorite-list] Lahcen Ait Ha and Gary

Salam ya sadiki Said, metlist members, In life it is best not to think of problems, but of solutions. Toward this end, I must give sincere thanks to my good friends in Morocco for helping to resolve a challenge I encountered during a recent transaction. Tanmirt Said Haddany, Aziz Habibi and

Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

I'm counting what appear to be 17 fainter companion objects in parallel trajectories. Is that what I'm looking at or is it some sort of video artefact? If they are companions can their size be determined approximately from the relative brightness or by some other means? Thanks, John On

[meteorite-list] Postal service to Canada

Aloha my meteorite friends to the north, Although Parliament has ended the postal lockout over the weekend, as of yesterday, USPS computer software was not processing shipments to Canada. So please have patience as our post office ramps up to restore service to your fine country. Mahalo nui

[meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!!

Hello all, unfortunately I have found another person on ebay who is selling underweight lunar and martian material. His ebay ID is spaceterrain4sale and his first name is Ariel. He is advertising his mounts at 24mg each at the time i purchased.. i purchased a whole bunch from him for around 8.00

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!!

Short disclaimer: As we see our lunaite NWA 4881 and our shergottite NWA 4925 involved, only the quick remark, that we don't know, who this person is and that these mounts have nothing to do with our original display cases, which you are used to know for years from various offerors and shops

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!!

yes the material involved is NWA 4881 and NWA 4925 i dont think they are the same mounts as you are selling as the picture on the cover is different. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!!

Hi Dan Your seller states: Authenticity Guaranteed and backed up by a 100% money back no questions asked return policy. Why not try to work the problem out first before airing dirty laundry in public? I don't know the guy, but your expecting $333/gram material while he's faced with the

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteorite recovery)

I agree completely with Randy. I believe it would be almost useless and highly improbable to find an actual meteorite on the moon. Even at 3km a second the impact would destroy all of the meteorite. I also believe it doesnt take a large meteorite to knock material off the moon. A baseball sized

[meteorite-list] wallpaper for free; Ghubara iron chondrule; green pyroxene chondrule

Hi Met friends, the first 20 email requests get free on of this nice wallpapers/posters in the size of 12,000 x 9,000 pixels, 33.33 x 25.00'' (print density 360pxs/inch) . Small images visible on https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=C5EB7008572EC0F7id=C5EB7008572EC0F7%21145sc=photos

[meteorite-list] Long Live the Nakhla Dog! 100 Years Ago in Egypt 28JUN1911 28JUN2011

List, Some of you may like a good dog vs meteorite story: Long Live the Nakhla Dog! 100 Years Ago in Egypt 28JUN1911 28JUN2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/06/long-live-nakhla-dog-100-years-ago-in.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the

Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

Thanks Richard, that is pretty cool!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: = I got a few positional images of this object with our 1.5-m (60) on Mt. Lemmon last night, but Jure

Re: [meteorite-list] Postal service to Canada

Thanks for the heads up, Gary! --- -Melanie MetMel - avid meteorite collector/enthusiast from Canada! IMCA#: 2975 eBay: metmel2775 I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7. - Original Message From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com To: MeteorList

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!!

Excuse me? i highly doubt expecting to get what i pay for is being unreasonable. Daniel Furlan On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:06 PM, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: Hi Dan Your seller states: Authenticity Guaranteed and backed up by a 100% money back no questions asked return policy. Why

Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks Matt Morgan - Mile High Meteorites

Here here! Some of my favorite pieces in my collection came from Matt. He's a stand-up guy with some great space rocks to share! -Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Davio L. Ribeca dav...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Met-List Community, I want to personally thank Matt Morgan from

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!!

One more thing, I just went and checked ALL this sellers items, and he still has some of the same mounts listed at .024 grams which is 24mg So he hasn't actually changed all his listings and is still selling the same mounts with the wrong weights stated.. I know for sure because i busted open a

Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

Hi John. What you are seeing are not companions but instead are imaging artifacts called hot pixels. They are pixels that have a non linear response and are normal. Astronomical imagers usually use a technique called Dark Frame Subtraction to remove these hot pixels from the image. I imagine

[meteorite-list] OT More Wrongway GPS Navigation

Dear Friends, Back in April of 2011, there was a discussion of the need to use common sense in using GPS for navigation in “Death by GPS in desert” at: http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2011-April/075724.html Recently, there was an example of the need to be careful about

Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

Looks to be tumbling as brightness changes. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

Thanks Richard I get it. I think my Nikon DSLR can be set to perform a similar technique for noise reduction using a dark frame subtraction with the dark frame getting an equal exposure time as the image to be processed. John On 28/06/2011 12:43, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi

Re: [meteorite-list] OT More Wrongway GPS Navigation

Recently, there was an example of the need to be careful about navigating with GPS in: If someone dont learn good enough how to use his brain, dont expect he can use car + GPS correctly :) Thats sad. But ofcourse shit happends depends of situation. But sometimes ppl do strange things.

Re: [meteorite-list] Long Live the Nakhla Dog! 100 Years Ago in Egypt 28JUN1911 28JUN2011

Happy Birthday El-Nakhla Greg S I heard this on the radio this morning on Star-Date as I was getting ready for work. A wonderful little radio broadcast I must say. Here's the site: http://stardate.org/radio/program/2011-06-28 More Moon and Mars June 28, 2011 Showers of any kind are

Re: [meteorite-list] OT More Wrongway GPS Navigation

List: The GPS may put on roads you have never heard of, or turns that don't appear to be there... but, I always arrive at my destination at the time the GPS says... having said that... how many years have we been using maps, and arriving at our destinations... just fine? Greg S

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Just to cherry-pick one question: Do we have any hard data on the approximate rate of impacts on the lunar surface? Lunar seismic data should show the larger impacts, but the analysis is controversial. More recent (and more sophisticated) analysis shows more impacts than we once thought. But

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Just get out your list of humans killed by being struck by a meteorite Sterling, surely we need to define a new concept here - that of the virgin meteorite strike. Or been struck by the meteorite that's around been around the block a few times assisted by postal services. I have a long list

[meteorite-list] AD : Dinosaur fossils/meteorite trade offer

Hello list - I have some dinosaur fossils that will be going up for auction and thought I would take a moment to offer them to anyone on the METlist first. I'm willing to discuss trade for meteorites, so if there are any real fossil lovers out there interested just get back to me this week

Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation

Hi, John, List, Richard got to the hot pixel answer before me (naturally), but some clues are the the absolute fixity of their positions, their unchanging brightness, and the fact that they are scattered all over the frame. If they were real objects and true companions, they would be of low mass

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

First; Is it a meteorite if it lands on the Moon? Isn't it just a chunk of asteroid or planetary debris added to our Moon. No atmo/no fusion crust. No atmo/no resistance to slow approach but then again no entry velocity generated but a great amount of gravity but rather only cosmic velocity.

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

ET wrote Really, don't you collectors find that you want something a great deal more when you feel that it can't be had? What, like smallpox? :) You're right of course! Why not simply bring back or send back from a remote catapult system canisters to Space shuttles poised for recovery

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

  From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: etmeteori...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery) You want to go the the nearer

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Hi List, Well, my lunar meteorite moon base idea has been roundly rejected by a host of all-stars from the world of meteorites and science. Everyone from Dr. Korotev to Sterling Webb have shot down my pipe dream with great logic that I cannot refute. I concede and close my comic book now! ;)

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Richard K says: There are no known Earth Trojans. Hi Richard, Come on ol' friend, even 2500 years ago Anaxagoras deduced: Under the stars are the Sun and Moon, and also certain bodies which revolve with them, but are invisible to us. and we've observed enough meteorites to vindicate him!

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases andmeteoriterecovery)

Hi Mike, Another factor to consider is the proximity of Mars to the asteroid belt, relative to the Earth and earth's moon. Not being an expert in orbital mechanics, I would presume that, other factors being equal, Mars would have received more asteroid impacts simply because it borders the

Re: [meteorite-list] Stones with High Troilite, Low Metal

Hi Pete, I sent you some email attachments with backscatter electron images of NWA 6588 done with our electron microprobe. Sorry, I need to find the time to put some photos on the EoM, but not yet registered! I'm am having our website and the IOM Meteorite Catalog upgraded right now, so many

Re: [meteorite-list] Long Live the Nakhla Dog! 100 Years Ago in Egypt28JUN1911 28JUN2011

Hear, Hear http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/aboutnakhladog.htm Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams.

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Thermal Protection System (TPS)

As a fairly new subscriber to the met-list, and a meteorite(nut) collector. I would like to inject a few pieces of information about the Space Shuttle Tiles from my personal experiences with them. As the other Teacher In Space(TIS) candidate from the state of NH I was given a damaged flown

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Thermal Protection System (TPS)

Superb addition to this thread Robert and welcome to the list. It is great for that perspective. It also would be interesting to find where all those educational tiles are ... Four months ago, they arrested a guy who: Investigators say Abbey sold 12 tiles from the shuttle, for about $600 to

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Thermal Protection System (TPS)

NASA is selling tile material on the KSC website store but not the actual tiles from a shuttle. http://www.thespaceshop.com/shuttilin.html Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Member - KCA, KBCA, CDUSA -Original Message- From: Robert Nancy

[meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Thermal Protection System (TPS)

Hi Robert, Excellent post, I'm going to have to see about getting a tile for our museum. Phil Whitmer --- As a fairly new subscriber to the met-list, and a meteorite(nut) collector. I would like to inject a few pieces of information about the Space Shuttle Tiles

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Thermal Protection System (TPS)

Replying to myself - I have just received off list an email confirming the KSC gift shop does indeed sell fragments of tiles. I just googled this and found this place selling reasonable sized authentic tile cuttings for $23 each and with this explanation of the provenance, which if true,

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!! *** update ***

Hello all, I have good news. The seller has promised to revise all his listings. He is also offering to replace all the mounts that i broke open for free. Furthermore, he is re-negotiating a new price with me for these mounts since i purchased a few of them now that we have an actual weight and

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!! *** update ***

I was eager to see your reply, Dan. I also corresponded with your seller today. He is really a conscientious guy with excellent feedback and and incredibly helpful attitude. *He readily volunteered earlier to me that it was 100% his fault and told me he would do *anything* to make you

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Thermal Protection System (TPS)

Robert, (and to List...) I am saving this entry, with +++s, into my good-stuff folder. Thank you! Richard M - Original Message - From: Robert Nancy Veilleux robn...@comcast.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid 2011MD Bye-bye

Science humor... I love it. -Walter Branch Not everything that can be counted, counts and not everything that counts can be counted. -A. Einstein. On Jun 27, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Video of 2011MD against background stars:

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid 2011MD Bye-bye

Dang Rob. Little wonder there is a minor planet named after you. I think that should be upgraded to at least a dwarf planet. -Walter Branch Not everything that can be counted, counts and not everything that counts can be counted. -A. Einstein. On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:52 AM, Sterling K. Webb

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid 2011MD Bye-bye

Gee. He ain't the only one ;-) Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid 2011MD Bye-bye

Citation for (73491) The following citation is from MPC 51191: (73491) Robmatson = 2002 PO164 Robert D. Matson (b. 1962) is a keen amateur astronomer with special interests in planetary science. Besides being a successful meteorite hunter, Matson is internationally recognized for his

[meteorite-list] Named minor planets

Blush Sebastian Hönig surprised me with that honor in December 2003 -- quite the Christmas present! Since then, I've tried to pay it forward by doing the same for other amateur astronomers, meteorite hunters, meteoriticists and even an astronaut. As a group, the Meteorite List probably has the

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Doug, I think you missed a key word in my post, ... known Cheers   -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:30 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!! *** update ***

Dear Sir, The seller still never checked the items before he re-sold them, yes this is an honest mistake but very irresponsible and he sold hundreds of these mounts with the incorrect weight and the people who bought them paid triple the price of what they are worth retail.. If i was him, i would

Re: [meteorite-list] Named minor planets

Any idea how many and who? Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!! *** update ***

Dan, You are 100% right about everything surrounding authenticity and I completely agree with your effort to make things right - as does your seller who now has the daunting problem and expressed an attitude to address it. It was his honest mistake as you see. Dealing in meteorites is really

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Hi Richard, I think I missed more than that - so what did you mean in the original post? That a mission there would be a good idea to make new discoveries? I still don't get it, then, and am very interested in what you say. Kindest wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Richard

Re: [meteorite-list] Named minor planets

There are thousands of named asteroids. I'm not sure if anyone has complied a list yet, but it could be a rainy day task for someone who has the interest. If you go to the JPL Orbital Diagram page: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/ You can enter the name of a candidate. To find all of the objects

Re: [meteorite-list] [2] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Never mind - the light bulb on my shoulders and brightened up. I said we would find it written in stone and you said no Trojans were known. You meant that there is no guarantee we'll find anything there without bias, right, but my premise assumes that material is there. Yup, but as missions

[meteorite-list] Space Shuttle...honorary stories

Hi List, While the 'heat-tile' subject is still 'hot' and since our beloved fleet nears the end of its 'scheduled missions' I offer a story, and invite others after this: (Stick with my personal indulgences along the way...especially those of us have music in commonthey will pay off!)

Re: [meteorite-list] trips to the Moon (Moon bases and meteoriterecovery)

Sorry if I'm being obtuse. My terse comment that there are no known earth trojans means simply that. We know of no Earth Trojans at L4 or L5. I simply can't say if there is or isn't anything there. Can't say that either is a good place to find lunar material simply because we haven't found a

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle...honorary stories

I get so excited about it, I even mis-spell my own last name. -Richard Montgomery (this time is correct!) - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: 'Meteorite-list List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:59 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] Buyers BEWARE!!!! *** update ***

Doug, I appreciate you sympathizing with the seller it shows me you have a heart of gold and are a kind person. I wish your sympathies reached out to all the people who actually purchased these mounts at full retail and ended up paying 3 times the face value. I am glad we were able to clear up

Re: [meteorite-list] Home, Home on La Grange!

Doug, I believe Anaxagoras was referring to the Anti-Earth, a body thought possible (in either a geocentric or a heliocentric system) that was always behind the Sun from the viewpoint of Earth, hence never seen by us. It's an idea that doesn't go away (like it should):