[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2011-11-18 Thread valparint
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http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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[meteorite-list] Holocene Extinctions and a different lake

2011-11-18 Thread Paul H.
In “[meteorite-list] Holocene Extinctions and a different 
lake”, Ed wrote:

“I'm glad to hear that all the debate about the dating of 
the Lake Misssoula flooding has now been cleared up. 
Does the same thing hold for Lake Bonneville, and 
other Ice Age plains lakes?”

I have PDF versions of about 70 publications about
geology and paleoliminology, and chronology of Lake 
Bonneville. There are numerous other minor publications
about Lake Bonneville. In addition, I have about a couple 
of dozen papers and other publications about other Ice 
Age pluvial lakes that existed in the Southwestern United
States, including pluvial Lake Estancia in New Mexico.

In none of these papers, is there any evidence of either 
any terminal Pleistocene impacts, including about 
“10,750 BCE,” or any Holocene impacts. The significant
change from Ice Age pluvial lake levels in Lake Bonneville
and other pluvial lakes towards modern playa lakes started 
about 12,600 14C yr BP (15,000 cal yr B.P.). This is long 
before any of your proposed impacts. This is simply the 
time that the colder, wetter climates of the Last Glacial 
Maximum transitioned to the warmer, drier conditions 
of the late Pleistocene and early Holocene. This change 
is coincident with comparable drops (regression) in 
lake-level in Lake Lahontan, Lake Estancia, and other
southwestern pluvial lakes and with the onset of the
Bolling-Allerod warming event. 

There is a very slight rise in lake levels to the Lake Gilbert 
highstand in response to climate changes associated with
 the Younger Dryas. There is nothing obvious in the lake
 sediments to indicate any direct association with any sort 
of extraterrestrial impact. Whatever caused the Younger 
Dryas climatic changes is what indirectly caused the high 
lake levels of Lake Gilbert.

In terms of basic reading, a person can start with:

Allen, B. D., 2005, Ice Age Lakes in New Mexico. in S. G. 
Lucas, G. S. Morgan, and K. E. Zeigler, eds., pp. 107-114, 
New Mexico’s Ice Ages. Bulletin no. 28, New Mexico 
Museum of Natural History and Science.
http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/staff/allen/documents/iceagelakesnm.PDF

Balch, D. P., A. S. Cohen, D. W. Schnurrenberger, B. J. Haskell, 
B. L. V. Garces, J. W. Beck, H. Cheng, and R. L. Edwards, 2005,
Ecosystem and paleohydrological response to Quaternary 
climate change in the Bonneville Basin, Utah. Palaeogeography, 
Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology. vol. 221, no. 1-2, pp. 99-122.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031018205000829

Benson, L. V., D. R. Currey, R .I. Dorn, K. R. Lajoie, C. G. Oviatt, 
S. W. Robinson, G. I. Smith, and S. Stine, 1990, Chronology of 
expansion and contraction of four great Basin lake systems 
during the past 35,000 years. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, 
Palaeoecology. vol. 78, no. 3-4, pp. 241-286.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/003101829090217U

Benson, L. V., S. P. Lund, J. P. Smoot, D. E. Rhode, R. J. Spencer, 
K. L. Verosub, L. A. Louderback, C. A. Johnson, R. O. Rye, and
R. M. Negrini, 2011, The rise and fall of Lake Bonneville 
between 45 and 10.5 ka. Quaternary International. vol. 235, 
no. 1-2, pp. 57-69.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1040618210004829

Louderback, L. A., and D. E. Rhode, 2009, 15,000 Years of 
vegetation change in the Bonneville basin: the Blue Lake 
pollen record. Quaternary Science Reviews. vol. 28, no. 3-4, 
pp. 308-326.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379108002680

Godsey, H. S., C. G. Oviatt, D. M. Miller, and M. A. Chan, 2011,
Stratigraphy and chronology of offshore to nearshore deposits 
associated with the Provo shoreline, Pleistocene Lake Bonneville, 
Utah. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology. 
vol. 310, no. 3-4,pp. 442-450.

Oviatt, C. G., D. M. Miller, J. P. McGeehin, C. Zachary, and S. 
Mahan, 2005, The Younger Dryas phase of Great Salt Lake , 
Utah. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology.
vol. 219, no. 3-4, pp. 263-284.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031018211004317

Patrickson, D. S., A. R. Brunelle, and K. A. Moser, 2010, Late 
Pleistocene to early Holocene lake level and paleoclimate 
insights from Stansbury Island, Bonneville basin, Utah.
Quaternary Research. vol. 73, no. 2, pp. 237-246.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033589409001653

Spencer, R. J., M. J. Baedecker, H. P. Eugster, R. M. Forester, 
M. B. Goldhaber, B. F. Jones, K. Kelts, J. Mckenzie, D. B. 
Madsen and S. L. Rettig, 1984, Great Salt Lake, and precursors, 
Utah: The last 30,000 years. Contributions to Mineralogy 
and Petrology. vol. 86, no. 4, pp. 321-334.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/j7744044505082r0/

Maps of the pluvial lakes of the Southwest US can be found at:

1. Late Quaternary Paleohydrology of the Mojave Desert
http://esp.cr.usgs.gov/info/mojave/paleoenviron.html
http://esp.cr.usgs.gov/info/mojave/images/fig13.gif

2. Reheis, M,, 1999, Extent of Pleistocene Lakes in the 
Western 

[meteorite-list] Correction For Holocene Extinctions and a different lake

2011-11-18 Thread Paul H.
In Holocene Extinctions and a different lake at
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2011-November/081249.html ,
I left out  the word lack in one sentence.

The sentence should read:

Also, despite the continuous record of lake sedimentation 
recovered in cores from Lake Bonneville and other lakes, 
there is a complete **lack** of either an event bed of deposits 
that such an event would most certainly have left behind.  
The many problems with the arguments of Tollmann and 
Tollmann (1994), which Knight and Lomas (2000) simply
ignore, are discussed in detail by Deutsch et al. (1994).

Bets wishes,

Paul H.
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[meteorite-list] Latest from Gerta Keller - Chixilub didn't really do it...

2011-11-18 Thread David R. Vann

Not sure how much I agree with all this, but it sures seems the end Cretaceous
would have been a bad time to be on planet Earth.

One-Two Punch Caused Mass Extinction
November 18, 2011 

Princeton Univ. researchers found that massive, prolonged eruptions of the
Deccan Traps in India gradually eliminated species and resulted in the
Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction that killed the dinosaurs 65 million years
ago. Marine sediment trapped between Deccan lava flows revealed that a species
known as planktonic foraminifera-widely used to gauge the severity of
prehistoric disasters-succumbed to lava mega-flows and volcano-induced
environmental stress such as acid rain and drastic climate changes. As
conditions on Earth worsened, large, variedspecies (left) were eliminated. The
no more than seven or eight smaller species (right) that remained dwarfed
further. Image: Gerta Keller 
A cosmic one-two punch of colossal volcanic eruptions and meteorite strikes
likely caused the mass-extinction event at the end of the Cretaceous period that
is famous for killing the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, according to two
Princeton Univ. reports that reject the prevailing theory that the extinction
was caused by a single large meteorite. 

Princeton-led researchers found that a trail of dead plankton spanning half a
million years provides a timeline that links the mass extinction to large-scale
eruptions of the Deccan Traps, a primeval volcanic range in western India that
was once three-times larger than France. A second Princeton-based group
uncovered traces of a meteorite close to the Deccan Traps that may have been one
of a series to strike the Earth around the time of the mass extinction, possibly
wiping out the few species that remained after thousands of years of volcanic
activity. 

Researchers led by Princeton professor of Geosciences Gerta Keller report this
month in the Journal of the Geological Society of India that marine sediments
from Deccan lava flows show that the population of a plankton species widely
used to gauge the fallout of prehistoric catastrophes plummeted nearly 100
percent in the thousands of years leading up to the mass extinction. This
eradication occurred in sync with the largest eruption phase of the Deccan
Traps-the second of three-when the volcanoes pumped the atmosphere full of
climate-altering carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide, the researchers report. The
less severe third phase of Deccan activity kept the Earth nearly uninhabitable
for the next 500,000 years, the researchers report. A substantially weaker first
phase occurred roughly 2.5 million years before the second-phase eruptions. 

Another group based in Keller's lab found evidence in Indian sediment of a
meteorite strike from the time of the mass extinction that would have been
sufficient to finish off the few but weakened species that survived the Deccan
eruptions, according to a report in the journal Earth and Planetary Science
Letters (EPSL). This same sediment-located in Meghalaya, India, more than 600
miles east of the Deccan Traps-portrayed the Earth during this period as a harsh
environment of acid rain and erratic global temperatures. 

Taken together, Keller says, the Princeton findings could finally put to rest
the theory that the mass-extinction event-known as the Cretaceous-Tertiary, or
KT, for the periods it straddles-was triggered solely by a large meteorite
impact near Chicxulub in present-day Mexico. That impact -which occurred around
the time of the second-phase Deccan eruptions-is thought to have been 2 million
times more powerful than a hydrogen bomb and generated an enormous dust cloud
and gases that radically altered the climate. Keller has long held that the
Chicxulub impact was not catastrophic enough to cause the KT mass extinction-the
newest work from her lab, however, shows that the largest Deccan eruptions were.


Our work in Meghalaya and the Deccan Traps provides the first one-to-one
correlation between the mass extinction and Deccan volcanism, says Keller, who
is lead author of the Geological Society paper and second author of the EPSL
paper after lead author Brian Gertsch, who earned his Ph.D. from Princeton.
Gertsch is now a postdoctoral researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology. 

We demonstrate a clear cause-and-effect relationship that these massive
volcanic eruptions were far more destructive than previously thought and could
have caused the KT mass extinction even without the addition of large meteorite
impacts, Keller says. But given the environmental instability caused by the
massive Deccan eruptions, an impact could easily have killed off the few
survivor species at the end of the Cretaceous. It would have been a double
whammy. 

Vincent Courtillot, a geophysicist and professor at Paris Univ. Diderot, says
that the Princeton papers are based on a closer examination of Deccan volcanism
and its aftermath than has been conducted previously. As such, he says, the
researchers' 

Re: [meteorite-list] Latest from Gerta Keller - Chixilub didn't really do it...

2011-11-18 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi David and List,

Interesting theory.  I am a little confused at what this new research
is trying to say.

Are they claiming that the volcanism from the Deccan Traps is largely
responsible for the mass extinctions and that the coincidental
meteorite impact aggravated the problem?

Or, are they claiming that a meteorite impact near the area of the
Deccan Traps triggered the resulting volcanism?

It is not inconceivable to think that the latent potential of the
Deccan Traps was unleashed by a catastrophic meteorite impact that
punctured the crust and released the volcanism that caused the
extinctions?  In effect, this would mean that the Deccan Traps would
not have caused the extinctions on their own, because the volcanism
would not have been triggered if the meteorite impact had not
happened.

Considering the massive size and global cataclysmic effects caused by
the Chicxulub event, it is hard to imagine that such an impact could
not have caused the extinctions on it's own without any help from
unrelated volcanism.  However, if the Deccan Traps were already
pummeling life on Earth with it's toxic effects, then the subsequent
Chicxulub event may have been the knock out punch that finished off
the species that were already on the ropes from the Deccan volcanism.

Either way, the new research still admits that a meteorite impact
played a role - even if it was secondary.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 11/18/11, David R. Vann drv...@sas.upenn.edu wrote:

 Not sure how much I agree with all this, but it sures seems the end
 Cretaceous
 would have been a bad time to be on planet Earth.

 One-Two Punch Caused Mass Extinction
 November 18, 2011

 Princeton Univ. researchers found that massive, prolonged eruptions of the
 Deccan Traps in India gradually eliminated species and resulted in the
 Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction that killed the dinosaurs 65 million
 years
 ago. Marine sediment trapped between Deccan lava flows revealed that a
 species
 known as planktonic foraminifera-widely used to gauge the severity of
 prehistoric disasters-succumbed to lava mega-flows and volcano-induced
 environmental stress such as acid rain and drastic climate changes. As
 conditions on Earth worsened, large, variedspecies (left) were eliminated.
 The
 no more than seven or eight smaller species (right) that remained dwarfed
 further. Image: Gerta Keller
 A cosmic one-two punch of colossal volcanic eruptions and meteorite strikes
 likely caused the mass-extinction event at the end of the Cretaceous period
 that
 is famous for killing the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, according to two
 Princeton Univ. reports that reject the prevailing theory that the
 extinction
 was caused by a single large meteorite.

 Princeton-led researchers found that a trail of dead plankton spanning half
 a
 million years provides a timeline that links the mass extinction to
 large-scale
 eruptions of the Deccan Traps, a primeval volcanic range in western India
 that
 was once three-times larger than France. A second Princeton-based group
 uncovered traces of a meteorite close to the Deccan Traps that may have been
 one
 of a series to strike the Earth around the time of the mass extinction,
 possibly
 wiping out the few species that remained after thousands of years of
 volcanic
 activity.

 Researchers led by Princeton professor of Geosciences Gerta Keller report
 this
 month in the Journal of the Geological Society of India that marine
 sediments
 from Deccan lava flows show that the population of a plankton species widely
 used to gauge the fallout of prehistoric catastrophes plummeted nearly 100
 percent in the thousands of years leading up to the mass extinction. This
 eradication occurred in sync with the largest eruption phase of the Deccan
 Traps-the second of three-when the volcanoes pumped the atmosphere full of
 climate-altering carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide, the researchers report.
 The
 less severe third phase of Deccan activity kept the Earth nearly
 uninhabitable
 for the next 500,000 years, the researchers report. A substantially weaker
 first
 phase occurred roughly 2.5 million years before the second-phase eruptions.

 Another group based in Keller's lab found evidence in Indian sediment of a
 meteorite strike from the time of the mass extinction that would have been
 sufficient to finish off the few but weakened species that survived the
 Deccan
 eruptions, according to a report in the journal Earth and Planetary Science
 Letters (EPSL). This same sediment-located in Meghalaya, India, more than
 600
 miles east of the Deccan 

[meteorite-list] Second experiment confirms faster-than-light particles

2011-11-18 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/second-experiment-confirms-faster-than-light-particles/2011/11/17/gIQAlRlTWN_story.html?hpid=z5

Second experiment confirms faster-than-light particles:

While the second experiment has made an important test of consistency of 
its result, Ferroni added, a final word can only be said by analogous 
measurements performed elsewhere in the world.


That is, more tests are needed, and on other experimental setups. There is 
still a large crowd of skeptical physicists who suspect that the original 
measurement done in September was an error.


Should the results stand, they would upend more than a century of modern 
physics.


In the first round of experiments, a massive detector buried in a mountain 
in Gran Sasso, Italy, recorded neutrinos generated at the CERN particle 
accelerator on the French-Swiss border arriving 60 nanoseconds sooner than 
expected. CERN is the French acronym for European Council for Nuclear 
Research.


A chorus of critiques from physicists soon followed. Among other possible 
errors, some suggested that the neutrinos generated at CERN were smeared 
into bunches too wide to measure precisely.


So in recent weeks, the OPERA team tightened the packets of neutrinos that 
CERN sent sailing toward Italy. Such tightening removed some uncertainty in 
the neutrinos' speed.


The detector still saw neutrinos moving faster than light.

One of the eventual systematic errors is now out of the way, said Jacques 
Martino, director of the National Institute of Nuclear and Particle Physics 
in France, in a statement.


But the faster-than-light drama is far from over, Martino added. The OPERA 
team is discussing more cross-checks, he added, including possibly running a 
fiber the 454 miles between the sites.


For more than a century, the speed of light has been locked in as the 
universe's ultimate speed limit. No experiment had seen anything moving 
faster than light, which zips along at 186,000 miles per second.


Much of modern physics - including Albert Einstein's famous theory of 
relativity - is built on that ultimate speed limit.


The scientific world stopped and gaped in September when the OPERA team 
announced it had seen neutrinos moving just a hint faster than light.


If it's correct, it's phenomenal, said Rob Plunkett, a scientist at 
Fermilab, the Department of Energy physics laboratory in Illinois, in 
September. We'd be looking at a whole new set of rules for how the 
universe works.




Phil Whitmer

Joshua Tree Earth  Space Museum

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[meteorite-list] Does Friction or Ram Pressure Cause Meteor Ablation

2011-11-18 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
I know it was discussed awhile back about whether atmospheric friction or 
ram pressure causes meteor ablation, but I don't remember if the science was 
ever settled. If you Google the question, the overwhelming majority of hits 
say it's friction with oxygen, argon and nitrogen  molecules that causes the 
heat. Even an NAU site says this. Dig a little deeper and you discover 
claims that it's a myth, the heat is caused by ram pressure. So which is it, 
compressed air or friction?


I vote for ram pressure.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Does Friction or Ram Pressure Cause Meteor Ablation

2011-11-18 Thread Chris Peterson
Friction is not a great term. But the answer is both... which is 
dominant depends on the size of the meteoroid with respect to the mean 
free path between collisions with atmospheric particles.


Objects on the order of a centimeter or larger are mainly heated by ram 
pressure effects. Objects smaller than that are heated by a more complex 
process involving kinetic energy transfer due to particle collisions- 
often called friction, but actually rather different from the usual 
definition of that word.


Chris

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On 11/18/2011 10:50 AM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote:

I know it was discussed awhile back about whether atmospheric friction
or ram pressure causes meteor ablation, but I don't remember if the
science was ever settled. If you Google the question, the overwhelming
majority of hits say it's friction with oxygen, argon and nitrogen
molecules that causes the heat. Even an NAU site says this. Dig a little
deeper and you discover claims that it's a myth, the heat is caused by
ram pressure. So which is it, compressed air or friction?

I vote for ram pressure.

-

Phil Whitmer


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[meteorite-list] I found these in my safe in a bag..........

2011-11-18 Thread Jim Strope
I don't remember where I got them.  Any Ideas?

Three little stones with a total weight of 16 grams.

http://www.catchafallingstar.com/WTFa.jpg

I cut the one in the upper left hand corner in half.

http://www.catchafallingstar.com/WTFb.JPG

Thanks guys...!!

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038

http://www.catchafallingstar.com/

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Re: [meteorite-list] I found these in my safe in a bag..........

2011-11-18 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi Jim,

I recognize them. They are specimens I sent you to hold for me... just
mail em' back. : )

Just kidding!   They look VERY interesting!




On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net wrote:
 I don't remember where I got them.  Any Ideas?

 Three little stones with a total weight of 16 grams.

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/WTFa.jpg

 I cut the one in the upper left hand corner in half.

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/WTFb.JPG

 Thanks guys...!!

 Jim Strope
 421 Fourth Street
 Glen Dale, WV  26038

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/

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[meteorite-list] I found these in my safe in a bag...

2011-11-18 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hi Jim and List,

The one you cut sure looks like a CK chondrite ... maybe CK4 or CK5!

Best wishes,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] Wanted large NWA chondrite

2011-11-18 Thread wahlperry

Hi All,

Looking for a large NWA chondrite 10- 20 kilo. Contact of list.

Thanks,
Sonny
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Re: [meteorite-list] Latest from Gerta Keller - Chixilub didn't really do it...

2011-11-18 Thread cdtucson
The truth is but a resting place until the next revelation;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOxZgn-wtc0

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 Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi David and List,
 
 Interesting theory.  I am a little confused at what this new research
 is trying to say.
 
 Are they claiming that the volcanism from the Deccan Traps is largely
 responsible for the mass extinctions and that the coincidental
 meteorite impact aggravated the problem?
 
 Or, are they claiming that a meteorite impact near the area of the
 Deccan Traps triggered the resulting volcanism?
 
 It is not inconceivable to think that the latent potential of the
 Deccan Traps was unleashed by a catastrophic meteorite impact that
 punctured the crust and released the volcanism that caused the
 extinctions?  In effect, this would mean that the Deccan Traps would
 not have caused the extinctions on their own, because the volcanism
 would not have been triggered if the meteorite impact had not
 happened.
 
 Considering the massive size and global cataclysmic effects caused by
 the Chicxulub event, it is hard to imagine that such an impact could
 not have caused the extinctions on it's own without any help from
 unrelated volcanism.  However, if the Deccan Traps were already
 pummeling life on Earth with it's toxic effects, then the subsequent
 Chicxulub event may have been the knock out punch that finished off
 the species that were already on the ropes from the Deccan volcanism.
 
 Either way, the new research still admits that a meteorite impact
 played a role - even if it was secondary.
 
 Best regards,
 
 MikeG
 
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 On 11/18/11, David R. Vann drv...@sas.upenn.edu wrote:
 
  Not sure how much I agree with all this, but it sures seems the end
  Cretaceous
  would have been a bad time to be on planet Earth.
 
  One-Two Punch Caused Mass Extinction
  November 18, 2011
 
  Princeton Univ. researchers found that massive, prolonged eruptions of the
  Deccan Traps in India gradually eliminated species and resulted in the
  Cretaceous-Tertiary mass extinction that killed the dinosaurs 65 million
  years
  ago. Marine sediment trapped between Deccan lava flows revealed that a
  species
  known as planktonic foraminifera-widely used to gauge the severity of
  prehistoric disasters-succumbed to lava mega-flows and volcano-induced
  environmental stress such as acid rain and drastic climate changes. As
  conditions on Earth worsened, large, variedspecies (left) were eliminated.
  The
  no more than seven or eight smaller species (right) that remained dwarfed
  further. Image: Gerta Keller
  A cosmic one-two punch of colossal volcanic eruptions and meteorite strikes
  likely caused the mass-extinction event at the end of the Cretaceous period
  that
  is famous for killing the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, according to two
  Princeton Univ. reports that reject the prevailing theory that the
  extinction
  was caused by a single large meteorite.
 
  Princeton-led researchers found that a trail of dead plankton spanning half
  a
  million years provides a timeline that links the mass extinction to
  large-scale
  eruptions of the Deccan Traps, a primeval volcanic range in western India
  that
  was once three-times larger than France. A second Princeton-based group
  uncovered traces of a meteorite close to the Deccan Traps that may have been
  one
  of a series to strike the Earth around the time of the mass extinction,
  possibly
  wiping out the few species that remained after thousands of years of
  volcanic
  activity.
 
  Researchers led by Princeton professor of Geosciences Gerta Keller report
  this
  month in the Journal of the Geological Society of India that marine
  sediments
  from Deccan lava flows show that the population of a plankton species widely
  used to gauge the fallout of prehistoric catastrophes plummeted nearly 100
  percent in the thousands of years leading up to the mass extinction. This
  eradication occurred in sync with the largest eruption phase of the Deccan
  Traps-the second of three-when the volcanoes pumped the atmosphere full of
  climate-altering carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide, the researchers report.
  The
  less severe third phase of Deccan activity kept the Earth nearly
  uninhabitable
  for the next 500,000 years, the researchers report. A substantially weaker
  first
  phase occurred roughly 2.5 million years before the second-phase eruptions.
 
  Another group based in Keller's lab found evidence in Indian sediment of a
  meteorite strike from the time of 

[meteorite-list] Like I Need Another Hobby

2011-11-18 Thread Anita Westlake
Dear List:
  
   Along with my passion for meteorites, I have recently become addicted to 
collecting sand. If any of you live near a crater, strewn field, etc. and have 
a 
few minutes, would you kindly collect about 2-3 teaspoons and send them to me? 
I 
would be happy to reimburse your postage and/or compensate for your time. 

  
   Just put the sand in a sealed baggie with a label saying where you found it 
(Beach, Crater, Desert, etc.) as well as the nearest town, city or post office, 
and mail it to me. I'm not searching for micro-meteorites, just indulging in my 
love for collecting strange things. (You should have met my ex-husband!) My 
heart fills with joy just thinking about getting sand from around the world. It 
really doesn't even have to be meteorite-related. 


You guys are awesome. Let me know how I can return the favor! I could send 
you genuine red dirt from Georgia. ; )

Anita Westlake
1253 Spencer Ave.
East Point, GA 30344
U.S.A.

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Re: [meteorite-list] I found these in my safe in a bag..........

2011-11-18 Thread Jason Utas
Congrats on the new lunar!
Jason



On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jim,

 I recognize them. They are specimens I sent you to hold for me... just
 mail em' back. : )

 Just kidding!   They look VERY interesting!




 On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net wrote:
 I don't remember where I got them.  Any Ideas?

 Three little stones with a total weight of 16 grams.

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/WTFa.jpg

 I cut the one in the upper left hand corner in half.

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/WTFb.JPG

 Thanks guys...!!

 Jim Strope
 421 Fourth Street
 Glen Dale, WV  26038

 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/

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[meteorite-list] Ernest Wiedhaus

2011-11-18 Thread Martin Goff
Hi all,

I am trying to find out some info about a private meteorite collector
called Ernest Wiedhaus.  He lived in Pelham Manor, New York and was in the
real estate buisness.  In April 1939 he sold his entire meteorite
collection to Oscar Monnig. I am after any info on this collector at all as
I have not come across his name before. Any help appreciated!

Cheers

Martin

www.msg-meteorites.co.uk
IMCA member 3387
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[meteorite-list] Ad: .99 Cent Ebay Auctions Ending Now!

2011-11-18 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,

Ending now and lots of stuff is still VERY cheap!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/mr-meteorite/m.html?hash=item336e4746c6item=220893497030pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0_trksid=p4340.l2562

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[meteorite-list] Stac Fada - Stoer Group - Scotlland

2011-11-18 Thread Count Deiro
Hello out there:

If the gentleman that sold me the impactite individual from Stac Fada (Bay of 
Stoer) a few months ago reads this, would you  please contact me off List. I 
have someone else that is interested in this material and I have missplaced 
your contact information.

Thank you,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536 MetSoc
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Re: [meteorite-list] Second experiment confirms faster-than-light particles

2011-11-18 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Phil,

It was my understanding that the mystery of the CERN faster-than-
light-speed neutrino result was solved over a month ago: failure
to account for the relativistic motion of the GPS clocks used to
time the neutrinos.

GPS satellites orbit in planes inclined 55 degrees relative to
the equator, coincidentally somewhat parallel to the neutrino
flight path bearing on the ground. From the satellite's perspective,
both the positions of the neutrino source and the neutrino detector
are changing: in this particular case, from the perspective of the
GPS clock, the detector is moving towards the neutrino source, and
consequently the distance travelled by the particles -- as measured
in the frame of the clock -- is shorter than the distance measured
on the ground. As a result, the neutrinos should arrive about 32
nanoseconds early: an amount that must be doubled because the same
error occurs at each end of the experiment. So the total correction
is 64 nanoseconds: almost exactly what the OPERA team observed.

If they ran the experiment a second time and got the same result,
it seems to me that it is only confirming a prediction of
special relativity.  --Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Second experiment confirms faster-than-lightparticles

2011-11-18 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi,

I downloaded the experimenters' original paper
where they discuss at great length all the corrections
they applied and THAT correction is not mentioned
nor acknowledged to be needed. So, we don't know
if they were aware of it or not.

In this latest news piece, they do not address the
relativistic analysis. They do address another
criticism, that of too wide a packet length for the
little neutral ones.

They suggest possibly running a fiber the 454
miles between the sites, to measure the light-time.
It seems to me that if they had accounted for the
relativistic effects beforehand (and neglected to
mention it their  paper), they would merely say so
and have done with it.

I'm not putting any big money bets on really fast
neutrinos, not in this frame of reference.


Sterling K. Webb

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To: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Second experiment confirms 
faster-than-lightparticles




Hi Phil,

It was my understanding that the mystery of the CERN faster-than-
light-speed neutrino result was solved over a month ago: failure
to account for the relativistic motion of the GPS clocks used to
time the neutrinos.

GPS satellites orbit in planes inclined 55 degrees relative to
the equator, coincidentally somewhat parallel to the neutrino
flight path bearing on the ground. From the satellite's perspective,
both the positions of the neutrino source and the neutrino detector
are changing: in this particular case, from the perspective of the
GPS clock, the detector is moving towards the neutrino source, and
consequently the distance travelled by the particles -- as measured
in the frame of the clock -- is shorter than the distance measured
on the ground. As a result, the neutrinos should arrive about 32
nanoseconds early: an amount that must be doubled because the same
error occurs at each end of the experiment. So the total correction
is 64 nanoseconds: almost exactly what the OPERA team observed.

If they ran the experiment a second time and got the same result,
it seems to me that it is only confirming a prediction of
special relativity.  --Rob

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[meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

2011-11-18 Thread Greg Hupé

Hello All,

I have collected many different meteorites and other items over the years 
either in a calculated or spur of the moment manner. Going into the holiday 
season, I dove into the boxes, bins and all corners of the house to pick out 
a random selection of rarities, goodies and one ugly to offer in my latest 
compulsive sale for:


Only
Collectors 
Dealers... (and scientists too!)

In no particular order, you will find everything from Planetary, to Hammer 
Stones, to an ugly H4, to a beautiful pallasite and everything in between 
including some pretty cool minerals towards the bottom of the listing below. 
You will find that most do not have prices so I encourage you to make 
offers. I am here to consider all offers, many of which I may surprise you 
and accept on the spot, others I may have to wait a few days so I can 
consider multiple offers on some of the more pricy items. If interested, 
please email me off-list. This will be a pretty long listing, but there are 
wonderful things to discover from top to bottom! Thank you for considering 
these!


Available specimens as of 11-18-2011

Seymchan Pallasite 62mm 563g sphere
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0093.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0094.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0095.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0096.jpg
5) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0097.jpg
6) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0098.jpg

Murchison fragment w/ crust 5.122g
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0050.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0051.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0052.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0053.jpg

Zagami part slice w/fragment(not shown) Total  1.906g (1.902g + 4mg)
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0047.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0048.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0049.jpg

Taza 10kg Sculptural Individual
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg1a.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg2a.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg3a.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg4a.jpg
5) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg5a.jpg

Ocate end cut 910g (Last piece)
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg

NWA 482 Lunar (Last four pieces, except main mass)
1.926g part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0001.jpg
578mg part slice w/ crust
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0002.jpg
376mg part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0003.jpg
200mg part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0004.jpg

NWA 1877 Olivine Diogenite 211.68g Lot (All that I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0005.jpg

NWA 1946 LL5 - 76g Lot (some polished slices  fragments)(All that I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0006.jpg

NWA 2830 H4 – 930g (All that I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0007.jpg

NWA 3118 CV3 – 2787.6g (All that I have, many great small pieces)(several 
50-100g lots not shown)

http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0008.jpg

NWA 3160 Lunar (Last two pieces)
182mg fragment
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0009.jpg
210mg fragments and crumbs
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0010.jpg

NWA 3171 Shergottite (Last piece I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0011.jpg

NWA 4473 Polymict Diogenite 4046g main mass (obviously the beauty is on the 
inside!)

http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0012.jpg

NWA 5403 Brecciated Lodranite 176.166g (paired to NWA 4478)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0013.jpg

NWA 6704 1414g main mass
120mm x 90mm x 55mm
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa6704/masses/nwa6704_1414a.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa6704/masses/nwa6704_1414b.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa6704/masses/nwa6704_1414c.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa6704/masses/nwa6704_1414d.jpg
NWA 6704 20.5g slice
90mm x 35mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0002.jpg

NWA 6888 Lunar Feldspathic IMB (Only four pieces I have) Meteoritical 
Bulletin Official entry: 
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=nwa+6888sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal%20tablecode=54490

236mg part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0014.jpg
26mg part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0015.jpg
24mg part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0016.jpg
16mg fragments
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0017.jpg

NWA 1879 Mesosiderite (Last two pieces)
185.7g end cut
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1879/dsc1.jpg
63g complete slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1879/dsc2.jpg

NWA 6959 (Provisional) (First showing earlier today on facebook 11-18-2011)
Rumurutiti (R5) (Only 10 specimens left!)(likely paired to others going for 
much higher price)

6.34g complete slice cs - $158.00
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa6959/img_0002.jpg
6.01g cs - $150.00
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa6959/img_0003.jpg

Re: [meteorite-list] Second experiment confirms faster-than-light particles

2011-11-18 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum


- Original Message - 
From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
To: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com; 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Second experiment confirms faster-than-light 
particles



Hi Phil,

It was my understanding that the mystery of the CERN faster-than-
light-speed neutrino result was solved over a month ago: failure
to account for the relativistic motion of the GPS clocks used to
time the neutrinos.

GPS satellites orbit in planes inclined 55 degrees relative to
the equator, coincidentally somewhat parallel to the neutrino
flight path bearing on the ground. From the satellite's perspective,
both the positions of the neutrino source and the neutrino detector
are changing: in this particular case, from the perspective of the
GPS clock, the detector is moving towards the neutrino source, and
consequently the distance travelled by the particles -- as measured
in the frame of the clock -- is shorter than the distance measured
on the ground. As a result, the neutrinos should arrive about 32
nanoseconds early: an amount that must be doubled because the same
error occurs at each end of the experiment. So the total correction
is 64 nanoseconds: almost exactly what the OPERA team observed.

If they ran the experiment a second time and got the same result,
it seems to me that it is only confirming a prediction of
special relativity.  --Rob

-

It seems unbelievable that the relativistic satellite motion has not been 
brought to their attention. I mean if you guys know about it, wouldn't they? 
I've also read elsewhere about this effect and how it could be skewing the 
results. I find it hard to believe they don't know about this and would not 
make the necessary corrections.


Phil Whitmer

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Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

2011-11-18 Thread Greg Hupé

Hi Mike,
you wrote, When I die, I want to be reincarnated as your scale cube.  ;)
I suppose I can be a little square at times, but that is why I like to liven 
up my sales a bit! ;-)


Also, for clarification, my Bizmuth description should be, Man-grown 
Element (Thanks, Rex for the correction!).


Best Regards,
Greg


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gmh...@centurylink.net
www.LunarRock.com
NaturesVault (eBay)
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http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault



-Original Message- 
From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:00 PM
To: Greg Hupé
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

Hi Greg,

When I die, I want to be reincarnated as your scale cube.  ;)

Best regards,

MikeG
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On 11/18/11, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote:

Hello All,

I have collected many different meteorites and other items over the years
either in a calculated or spur of the moment manner. Going into the 
holiday
season, I dove into the boxes, bins and all corners of the house to pick 
out

a random selection of rarities, goodies and one ugly to offer in my latest
compulsive sale for:

Only
Collectors 
Dealers... (and scientists too!)

In no particular order, you will find everything from Planetary, to Hammer
Stones, to an ugly H4, to a beautiful pallasite and everything in between
including some pretty cool minerals towards the bottom of the listing 
below.

You will find that most do not have prices so I encourage you to make
offers. I am here to consider all offers, many of which I may surprise you
and accept on the spot, others I may have to wait a few days so I can
consider multiple offers on some of the more pricy items. If interested,
please email me off-list. This will be a pretty long listing, but there 
are

wonderful things to discover from top to bottom! Thank you for considering
these!

Available specimens as of 11-18-2011

Seymchan Pallasite 62mm 563g sphere
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0093.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0094.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0095.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0096.jpg
5) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0097.jpg
6) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0098.jpg

Murchison fragment w/ crust 5.122g
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0050.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0051.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0052.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0053.jpg

Zagami part slice w/fragment(not shown) Total  1.906g (1.902g + 4mg)
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0047.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0048.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0049.jpg

Taza 10kg Sculptural Individual
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg1a.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg2a.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg3a.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg4a.jpg
5) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg5a.jpg

Ocate end cut 910g (Last piece)
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg

NWA 482 Lunar (Last four pieces, except main mass)
1.926g part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0001.jpg
578mg part slice w/ crust
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0002.jpg
376mg part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0003.jpg
200mg part slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0004.jpg

NWA 1877 Olivine Diogenite 211.68g Lot (All that I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0005.jpg

NWA 1946 LL5 - 76g Lot (some polished slices  fragments)(All that I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0006.jpg

NWA 2830 H4 – 930g (All that I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0007.jpg

NWA 3118 CV3 – 2787.6g (All that I have, many great small pieces)(several
50-100g lots not shown)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0008.jpg

NWA 3160 Lunar (Last two pieces)
182mg fragment
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0009.jpg
210mg fragments and crumbs
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0010.jpg

NWA 3171 Shergottite (Last piece I have)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0011.jpg

NWA 4473 Polymict Diogenite 4046g main mass (obviously the beauty is on 
the

inside!)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0012.jpg

NWA 5403 Brecciated Lodranite 176.166g (paired to NWA 4478)
http://www.lunarrock.com/OCD1/img_0013.jpg

NWA 6704 1414g main mass
120mm x 90mm x 55mm
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa6704/masses/nwa6704_1414a.jpg
2) 

Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

2011-11-18 Thread MexicoDoug
Also, for clarification, my Bizmuth description should be Man-grown 
Element


Ho Greg, It is very cool material;

or even better:

Synthetically-grown Bismuth crystals.

They are very really exquisite, beautiful crystals.  You can buy 
bismuth (lead-free) fishing weights in Walmart/Carrefour and melt them 
in aluminum cups on the kitchen stove.


Like magic as soon as the heat is turned off these types of cool 
crystals start to form.  Bismuth has a number of humorous uses, 
starting with its chemical symbol, and being the butt of bar-room 
jokes, and even then for the day after (Pepto-Bismol).  Your crystals 
seem to have nice color though, which means someone did a real good job 
(it's hard to get a rainbow to reflect from them).  They would make 
excellent pendants for jewelry, especially since they should be lead 
free and are safe, unlike nickel to which some people are allergic.


But we've really deviated, that is one heck of a beautiful offering of 
meteorites!  Deserves a second and third look.


Kindest wishes
Doug




-Original Message-
From: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net
To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad


Hi Mike,
you wrote, When I die, I want to be reincarnated as your scale cube.  
;)
I suppose I can be a little square at times, but that is why I like to 
liven

up my sales a bit! ;-)

Also, for clarification, my Bizmuth description should be, Man-grown
Element (Thanks, Rex for the correction!).

Best Regards,
Greg


Greg Hupé
The Hupé Collection
gmh...@centurylink.net
www.LunarRock.com
NaturesVault (eBay)
IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault



-Original Message-
From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:00 PM
To: Greg Hupé
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

Hi Greg,

When I die, I want to be reincarnated as your scale cube.  ;)

Best regards,

MikeG
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On 11/18/11, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote:

Hello All,

I have collected many different meteorites and other items over the 

years

either in a calculated or spur of the moment manner. Going into the
holiday
season, I dove into the boxes, bins and all corners of the house to 

pick

out
a random selection of rarities, goodies and one ugly to offer in my 

latest

compulsive sale for:

Only
Collectors 
Dealers... (and scientists too!)

In no particular order, you will find everything from Planetary, to 

Hammer
Stones, to an ugly H4, to a beautiful pallasite and everything in 

between

including some pretty cool minerals towards the bottom of the listing
below.
You will find that most do not have prices so I encourage you to make
offers. I am here to consider all offers, many of which I may 

surprise you

and accept on the spot, others I may have to wait a few days so I can
consider multiple offers on some of the more pricy items. If 

interested,
please email me off-list. This will be a pretty long listing, but 

there

are
wonderful things to discover from top to bottom! Thank you for 

considering

these!

Available specimens as of 11-18-2011

Seymchan Pallasite 62mm 563g sphere
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0093.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0094.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0095.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0096.jpg
5) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0097.jpg
6) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0098.jpg

Murchison fragment w/ crust 5.122g
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0050.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0051.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0052.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0053.jpg

Zagami part slice w/fragment(not shown) Total  1.906g (1.902g + 4mg)
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0047.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0048.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/zagami/img_0049.jpg

Taza 10kg Sculptural Individual
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg1a.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg2a.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg3a.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg4a.jpg
5) http://www.lunarrock.com/taza_10kg/taza_10kg5a.jpg

Ocate end cut 910g (Last piece)
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg

NWA 482 Lunar (Last four 

Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

2011-11-18 Thread Greg Hupé

Thanks Doug,

I was so impressed with these re-made man-made Pepto-Bismol crystals when 
I first saw them in France that I had to grab a few... if nothing else but 
to chew on after enjoying too much fine wine at the shows!! ;-)


I couldn't believe how inexpensive these are... Looking for someone who 
would like them all and make some holiday cashola for themselves! ;-)


Take care,
Greg



-Original Message- 
From: MexicoDoug

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:53 AM
To: gmh...@centurylink.net ; meteoritem...@gmail.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

Also, for clarification, my Bizmuth description should be Man-grown
Element

Ho Greg, It is very cool material;

or even better:

Synthetically-grown Bismuth crystals.

They are very really exquisite, beautiful crystals.  You can buy
bismuth (lead-free) fishing weights in Walmart/Carrefour and melt them
in aluminum cups on the kitchen stove.

Like magic as soon as the heat is turned off these types of cool
crystals start to form.  Bismuth has a number of humorous uses,
starting with its chemical symbol, and being the butt of bar-room
jokes, and even then for the day after (Pepto-Bismol).  Your crystals
seem to have nice color though, which means someone did a real good job
(it's hard to get a rainbow to reflect from them).  They would make
excellent pendants for jewelry, especially since they should be lead
free and are safe, unlike nickel to which some people are allergic.

But we've really deviated, that is one heck of a beautiful offering of
meteorites!  Deserves a second and third look.

Kindest wishes
Doug




-Original Message-
From: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net
To: Galactic Stone  Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad


Hi Mike,
you wrote, When I die, I want to be reincarnated as your scale cube.
;)
I suppose I can be a little square at times, but that is why I like to
liven
up my sales a bit! ;-)

Also, for clarification, my Bizmuth description should be, Man-grown
Element (Thanks, Rex for the correction!).

Best Regards,
Greg


Greg Hupé
The Hupé Collection
gmh...@centurylink.net
www.LunarRock.com
NaturesVault (eBay)
IMCA 3163

Click here for my current eBay auctions:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault



-Original Message-
From: Galactic Stone  Ironworks
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 10:00 PM
To: Greg Hupé
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OCD sale - ad

Hi Greg,

When I die, I want to be reincarnated as your scale cube.  ;)

Best regards,

MikeG
--
-

Galactic Stone  Ironworks - Meteorites  Amber (Michael Gilmer)

Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my
News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
-



On 11/18/11, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote:

Hello All,

I have collected many different meteorites and other items over the

years

either in a calculated or spur of the moment manner. Going into the
holiday
season, I dove into the boxes, bins and all corners of the house to

pick

out
a random selection of rarities, goodies and one ugly to offer in my

latest

compulsive sale for:

Only
Collectors 
Dealers... (and scientists too!)

In no particular order, you will find everything from Planetary, to

Hammer

Stones, to an ugly H4, to a beautiful pallasite and everything in

between

including some pretty cool minerals towards the bottom of the listing
below.
You will find that most do not have prices so I encourage you to make
offers. I am here to consider all offers, many of which I may

surprise you

and accept on the spot, others I may have to wait a few days so I can
consider multiple offers on some of the more pricy items. If

interested,

please email me off-list. This will be a pretty long listing, but

there

are
wonderful things to discover from top to bottom! Thank you for

considering

these!

Available specimens as of 11-18-2011

Seymchan Pallasite 62mm 563g sphere
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0093.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0094.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0095.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0096.jpg
5) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0097.jpg
6) http://www.lunarrock.com/seymchan/img_0098.jpg

Murchison fragment w/ crust 5.122g
1) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0050.jpg
2) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0051.jpg
3) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0052.jpg
4) http://www.lunarrock.com/murchison/img_0053.jpg

Zagami part slice w/fragment(not shown) Total  1.906g (1.902g + 4mg)
1)