[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list]

Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Agoudal

Contributed by: Runar Sandnes

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=01/26/2016
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Re: [meteorite-list] China Now Hosts The World's Largest Gem and Mineral Show

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

Exactly Peter, 
There are political motives behind the show in Changsha/chenzhou. It is 
government owned. The local governments are trying to get an airport built at 
Chenzhou. They wanted those hundreds of thousands of visitors to spur demand 
for an airport and development. The hundreds of thousands of visitors were all 
local peasants. None of them knew a thing about what they were looking at, much 
less have interest in spending a single yuan. 
Certainly there were buyers there and a lot of money was made, but none of that 
had anything to do with the visitor numbers. I think 1000 people would have 
been far better.

There is also no way to gauge Tucson attendance. The only number they use is 
the ticket sales at the main show at the convention center. When that is open 
I'm ready closed. There are hundreds of venues all over the city. 
The song "Don't cry for me Argentina" comes to mind. We do quite well thank you 
very much Adam:)

Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List members
> 
> I would be very wary of the figures quoted here. As someone on the list has 
> already mentioned, the shows at Changsha (now gone forever), Chenzhou and 
> elsewhere are largely attended by locals and students bussed in by the 
> Chinese government to artificially boost numbers. A number of prominent 
> mineral dealers that I know, who have the knowledge and experience of mineral 
> shows World-wide, are all very scathing about the Chinese shows. It may well 
> be that once these shows have been running for a number of years (like Tucson 
> and Munich) then thinks will settle down and trust between seller and buyer 
> may eventually be built up.
> 
> My recent experiences of trying to get the Chinese to organise an 
> international mineralogy conference have proved to be one of the most 
> frustrating periods of my professional life. China may have made many great 
> strides in some fields, but are hide-bound by politics. The result of all 
> this is that the conference will probably not go ahead. Poor organisation and 
> political interference/favouritism are among the main culprits.
> 
> I am a relative Tucson newbie (this will be my fifth visit), and the city can 
> be a difficult place to reach from Scotland, but it is still (along with 
> Munich) the place to go to catch up with old friends, meet new ones and most 
> importantly see some great specimens! I would not be too worried about 
> attendance figures. The main show, where I have my small display, is still 
> pretty busy on all the days that it is open and the hotels and smaller shows 
> around the city still seem to attract a lot of people. Long may it continue.
> 
> Hope to see a few of you there.
> 
> Peter Davidson
> Senior Curator of Mineralogy
> 
> Natural Sciences Department
> National Museums Collection Centre
> 242 West Granton Road
> Edinburgh
> EH5 1JA
> TEL: 0131 247 4283
> E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk
> 
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> Behalf Of Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
> Sent: 23 January 2016 18:07
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] China Now Hosts The World's Largest Gem and Mineral 
> Show
> 
> Dear List Members,
> 
> I was shocked to hear that the Tucson Gem and Mineral show is no longer the 
> world's largest.  It looks like China is in first place with attendance 
> figures of over 380,000 for a four day event in 2015 compared to less than
> 40,000 for Tucson.
> 
> http://www.friendsofmineralogy.org/newsletters/2015_Jul.pdf
> 
> Maybe I should attend this year to add support for this American show that 
> has been running since 1955 while the Chinese show has only existed for a 
> mere 3 years.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] China Now Hosts The World's Largest Gem andMineral Show

[Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list]

I hope everybody has a good show.  Team LunarRock may attend over the 
weekend if members are able to make it out here in time.  It is only a five 
or six hour drive from Nevada so we will make up our minds at the last 
moment since accommodations are no problem this year.  I have some business 
I need to take care of in Tombstone, AZ anyway so I will try to set up a 
meeting with their historian.


I remember getting a good laugh a few years ago by looking at some fake 
offerings at the show.  A vendor was offering up what he called the "David 
and Goliath" trilobite plate which he was asking $14,000.00 for at the 
Ramada Inn. A small and a large trilobite were locked in a death battle with 
the smaller one winning before they were both buried and fossilized.  The 
large one was flipped on its back with the smaller one on top.  The larger 
one had bite marks all over it while the smaller one received no battle 
scars.  The plate even had spectator trilobites gathered around the death 
match.   Mike Martinez and I were laughing so hard that our stomachs hurt 
after seeing this fake fossil plate.  I told the seller it should be sold as 
a piece art since he did such a good job of sculpting it.  He kicked us out 
of his room before I could take a picture of it.  I was so impressed with it 
that I brought some friends back the next day to see it for themselves. 
The seller's door was locked so we could not get in.  I asked the 
neighboring vendor when he thought the seller would be back.  He stated that 
he sold that plate, made his show fees and left early.  I guess there is a 
sucker born every minute.


I needed a good laugh after having my brand new $1,200.00 custom set of 
Oakley Rider prescription sunglasses stolen.  I took them off for a moment 
at the Inn Suites to look at a meteorite under a loop.  I set them next to 
me on the outdoor table in the food section only for a moment and then they 
were gone. The night before, I heard glass breaking at the hotel I was 
staying in.  The next morning there was a SafeLite auto glass repair truck 
replacing several windows in cars that had been broken into.


My advice is not to leave anything lying around and remove all valuables 
from your car.  Property crime in Tucson is number one in the nation.


http://tucson.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/tucson-in-top-for-property-crimes-nationally/article_d5edb12b-0071-57d0-801d-3012a899b7b5.html

Enjoy the show but be careful,

Adam


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[meteorite-list] Looking for Tucson Meteorite vendor list.

[wahlperry--- via Meteorite-list]

Hi All,

Looking for the meteorite vendor list for Tucson.

Thanks,
Sonny
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[meteorite-list] Tucson Vendor List

[James Tobin via Meteorite-list]

Hi List and Sonny
Once again we have put up the list of vendors that have sent us their 
information. This is a nice resource which we print out and carry with us. Hope 
to see many of you in a few days at the show.

Here the link

http://www.meteorite.com/tucson-hotels/


Best regards, Jim
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Re: [meteorite-list] China Now Hosts The World's Largest Gem and Mineral Show

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear List members

I would be very wary of the figures quoted here. As someone on the list has 
already mentioned, the shows at Changsha (now gone forever), Chenzhou and 
elsewhere are largely attended by locals and students bussed in by the Chinese 
government to artificially boost numbers. A number of prominent mineral dealers 
that I know, who have the knowledge and experience of mineral shows World-wide, 
are all very scathing about the Chinese shows. It may well be that once these 
shows have been running for a number of years (like Tucson and Munich) then 
thinks will settle down and trust between seller and buyer may eventually be 
built up.

My recent experiences of trying to get the Chinese to organise an international 
mineralogy conference have proved to be one of the most frustrating periods of 
my professional life. China may have made many great strides in some fields, 
but are hide-bound by politics. The result of all this is that the conference 
will probably not go ahead. Poor organisation and political 
interference/favouritism are among the main culprits.

I am a relative Tucson newbie (this will be my fifth visit), and the city can 
be a difficult place to reach from Scotland, but it is still (along with 
Munich) the place to go to catch up with old friends, meet new ones and most 
importantly see some great specimens! I would not be too worried about 
attendance figures. The main show, where I have my small display, is still 
pretty busy on all the days that it is open and the hotels and smaller shows 
around the city still seem to attract a lot of people. Long may it continue.

Hope to see a few of you there.

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

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Subject: [meteorite-list] China Now Hosts The World's Largest Gem and Mineral 
Show

Dear List Members,

I was shocked to hear that the Tucson Gem and Mineral show is no longer the 
world's largest.  It looks like China is in first place with attendance figures 
of over 380,000 for a four day event in 2015 compared to less than
40,000 for Tucson.

http://www.friendsofmineralogy.org/newsletters/2015_Jul.pdf

Maybe I should attend this year to add support for this American show that has 
been running since 1955 while the Chinese show has only existed for a mere 3 
years.

Adam




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