80
degrees colder here in northern Indiana!
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as that of a college who has investigate this
extensively and brings out the points that don't seem to match up. I
addressed this extensively on the Meteorite Impact forum when it was in
existence. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
Edwin Thompson wrote:
I would like for this to be Oregon's next
readers and we won't have to do
so much correcting in the future.
We all make mistakes and appreciate it when constructive advise is
given. I know I do and hope to see more meteorite information in his
column. Best!
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Forgot to mention you can view the article here:
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the legalities of doing this. I might be
willing to set up my collection if we ever went this way. Perhaps a show
could be scheduled in some other town, although I would miss the
restaurants in Tucson. Best!
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Hi Steve and all,
Great story Steve hunting the Imilac field. I believe I have a few of
those imilacs in my collection! Hunting stories like that make being on
this list worth while. Be careful of the company you keep :-)
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Piper R.W. Hollier wrote:
Hello list,
Thanks for the reactions both public and private to my posting to the
list about sulfur dioxide at Carancas. This thread has also given me a
new idea about the boiling water in the crater. Yes, it may have
been the obvious: ground water
Hi Darryl,
Was wondering if the specimen weighs 26 grams or not. If not how many
grams then. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
Darryl Pitt wrote:
October 28th / Bonhams
LOT 5
Portion of the Peekskill meteorite with crust three pieces of the
broken taillight, as collected by Ray Meyer
.
Best and good luck.
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I certainly wish other dealers would be as willing to collaborate as
Blaine!.
Amen to that Anne! We can all learn things from dealers like Blaine and Bob
Haag, myself included. Best to all!
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). Not perfect
but fair. Perhaps there is material from this comet in our collections
somewhere.
There are also photos of the August 28th Total Lunar Eclipse from out west.
http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff244/AlMitt/
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combinations of this group)
LUN B: Mare Basalts
LUN G:Mare Gabbros
LUN N: Lunar Norites
This list is derived from Harry McSween's book Meteorite and their
Parent Planets and from other sources on the internet that have posted
pairings.
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ensoramanda wrote:
Hi Al, All,
Nice
. Perhaps some funds can be raised to assist
her from the community. All my best!
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your action very much.
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Art wrote:
Hi List;
Users that break the rules are dealt with on a case by case basis.
In this case, the offending list member was removed as soon as I read
the post yesterday.
Best Regards, Art
to meteorites, how they fall, how they look and the
real truths about them.
I think we can use such occurrences to our advantage, teaching people and kids
about the facts on meteorites.
All my best!
--AL Mitterling
Fourth-grader finds meteorite in yard
BY KAREN VOYLES
THE GAINESVILLE SUN
these inclusions have
been found in. Best!
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1. Butler (IRANOM):
2. Cosby's Creek (IAB):
3. Mazapil (IAB):
Reference:
BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volumes 1-3.
Best wishes,
Bernd
selling can take care.
Never send out something until payment is in hand! (why this was only an
attempt). Sorry to bother the list but I think when we have people that
are questionable we should share information. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
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.
Interesting topic worthy of study. Perhaps some specimens might be typed
by magnetic fields in the future.
--AL Mitterling
Peter A Shugar wrote:
When the sun gives a large flare, what if the meteorite passed thru
the flame portion of the flare?
Does the flare have enough energy to magnetize
Greetings,
Went to check on Mark's Meteorite Articles and can't seem to find it on
the net. Perhaps he is doing some work on the webpage or it has been
down for a while but it was a good resource to meteorite collectors.
Anyone know what is going on??
Best!
--AL Mitterling
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a couple so you don't waste your money.
Not good for stony material as it leaves far too much kerfing. A thin
diamond saw is best. Good luck and hope you find a reliable source for
your cutting. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
Christian Anger wrote:
Hi all,
I need some saw blades 8 x
buy some of those types just order
a couple so you don't waste your money.
Not good for stony material as it leaves far too much kerfing. A thin
diamond saw is best. Good luck and hope you find a reliable source for
your cutting. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
Christian Anger wrote:
Hi all
Greetings List,
Does anyone have Pete shugar's address who emails to the list. In my
attempt to contact him, my emails keep getting bounced.
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Hi Mike and all,
Hey Mike, it seem to be oranger back in the olden days. :-) Great photos
of both past and present and good to see the old museum. Thanks for
sharing that with us.
--AL Mitterling
Mike Jensen wrote:
Hi Wayne list
I know that Nininger had to move his museum from Winslow
Hi Dirk and all,
It may be that the seller of the material was unaware that the material
was fake. Probably bought it from the source making it or a source they
trusted and that source bought it from the crooks. I've ran into this
before with meteorites. A person buys from their reliable, but
at very
upset with me and him. That will be the last sample I send to him.
--AL Mitterling
Michael Farmer wrote:
I would say less organized than myself, and that is
bad. Some things he finishes in days, some years, some
never.
Michael Farmer
--- Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
Good Topic,
Also what happens when you send in a sample say one or two grams of a
probable rare class type, say lunar for example and the researcher
doesn't get back to you on it!!
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scientific abilities in meteorites by many
of his day) is also a crime against science of that time and shows the
true tone (colors) of those better than thou scholars of that time. All
my best!
--AL Mitterling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] shared:
LaPaz evidently felt deeply that meteorities should
but it seem time are changing (for the better) and you see
more and more women at astronomy club meetings and participating in
observing these days. I suspect as time goes on
we'll see more women participating in the hobby.
--AL Mitterling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because we don't participate
there. Might as well jump in and get really wet.
The choices are really endless but most important buy something of
interest and meaning to you Best!
--AL Mitterling
Rhonda Rose wrote:
But mostly
#2 - I want the first one to be special and I can't
figure out what exactly it should be. I even
!
--AL Mitterling
Ruben Garcia wrote:
Hi all,
I get so many emails from people that think they've
found a meteorite. It's ok, that's what I signed up
for when I put up a website and videos designed to
teach.
But I hate when someone sends me an email like this
one. He wants $300,000 for this? Yet
Hi Arizona Keith and all,
Since you mentioned Nininger's Birthday thought I would run this
Nininger Moment through the list. All my best to all!
--AL Mitterling
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Nininger Moment #26 The Bondoc Philippine Meteorite Recovery Story
One of the largest and best meteorites
think that would
be a really good place for them since that is a very well read area for
meteorites. All my best to all.
--AL Mitterling
Peter Marmet wrote:
Hi AL and All,
great reading, AL, many thanks!
After reading your Nininger text, I remembered that I once bought a
20.6 g end piece
page defines well what to look for as does McSween
book Meteorite and their Parent Planets. My best to all.
--AL Mitterling
Peter A Shugar wrote:
So what meteorite did the esteemed Dr. Love say was a possible
Meurcian Meteorite? I sure would like to know!
Pete
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Can't seem to post. Test.
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Falling Star and there are a few others that are worthy of mention at a
later date or perhaps members will chime in and offer their suggestions.
All my best!
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have been made for asteroid 44, Nysa and the main aubrite
family, 4 Vesta and the eucrites, diogentites and howardites, 433 erros
and the L4 chondrites, 16 psyche and the E4's, and 1 Ceres and the CM2
chondrites.
Source: Meteorites and Their Parent Planets, by Harry Y. McSween Jr.
--AL
Hi Bob and all,
Hope your not using tap water from the local utility.
--AL Mitterling
Bob Evans wrote:
I don't understand where the problem is with using water as a coolant.
I have been cutting meteorites in water for years with no problems.
Just pop the meteorites in an oven ( which I have
lesson. Looks like they need a constructive hobby but I am thinking
in this case that maybe meteorites might be a bad idea until they grow
up a bit :-) Best!
--AL Mitterling
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Hi All,
Have you ever thought of a meteorite hitting your car? Better
and study it
for ourselves by owning them. So if ninety percent of all you guys would
just stop collecting them, I'd be able to pick up all the bargains and
get the really nice specimens for my collection, so you see, you guys
are responsible for my dilemma. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
on the merry go round if you want a ride. I'd be more than glad to
address other misunderstandings you have about my feelings on the
meteorite market Doug, just go ahead and ask.
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Hi Darren and all,
Based on all the previous finds, The average lunar meteorite specimen
weighs 197.02 gm. (6 grams to 1425 grams, 3.1 lbs). So this doesn't fit
the usual, expected size. Looks like either a lower impacting body hit
the moon or another size impactor can liberate specimens from
and cut these specimens rather
than commit the horrible demise of some fine specimens.
People that sell to him and people who buy or accept free offers have no
real interest in meteorites.
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the week. All my best!
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Hi Mark,
Did they sum it up in 6 words?? I would like to know why it doesn't
contain water. If they have tanks that sit empty for any length of time
there is bound to be some moisture from that alone. While it may be true
it contains very little moisture (so the customer relations can state
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have NEVER,NEVER cut or broken any of my meteorites, to givaway as
freebies.These pieces were either broken,or I just gave away the whole
piece.NO CUT OR BROKEN PIECES.I treasure these other worldly pieces from
space just as much as the next collecter.I have nothing
Hi Steve and all,
Very unfortunate. Did the seller of the 70 gram slice refund your
money?? I've sent out thousands of packages (US Postal System) and
only had two items with minor damage.
--AL Mitterling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I traded away the 122 gram piece to bob c.As far
Hi Jerry and all,
Jerry, your Superman and the tektite is kirptonite! :-)
--AL
Jerry A. Wallace wrote:
Hi Dave,
You were absolutely right about there being little joy in the lives
of most folks in the old days. Times were hard, living was tough.
Most found their rare joys in the simple
a piece of the newest rock, as there are more collectors
than ever these days.
I can remember the days where you had to search for months to even find
a dealer as there were so few of them. I'd say that things are much
better than in the past. Best!
--AL Mitterling
Michael L Blood wrote
To All,
Those that have and interest in Texas specimens, rare ones as well as
some sizable ordinary types should contact me off list.
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Hi Tom, Walter and all,
Many great men have smoked cigars over the ages. I can think of a few
recent exceptions.
That is why I smoke cigars because so many great men have.
I figure if I smoke cigars that might might someday be great :-)
--AL (A Cigar affectionado for many year, great or
Hi Peter and all,
Thanks for the great pics of the Ensisheim Show!! I enjoyed seeing the
displays and many familiar people.
--AL Mitterling
Peter Marmet wrote:
Hi list,
the second half of my Ensisheim 2005 picts are up now:
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id14.html
First part:
http
on the crater this is the most up to date Bibliography currently out
there. He has some ten years of accumulated data assembled in this 3/4
inch thick publication. You can go to ebay and look for this Item
number: 6541272249 for the publication. Please feel free to ask questions.
Best!
--AL
Hi John B. and all potential travelers,
Very interesting webpage and story. It certainly needed to be told as so
many rumors have been flying around. I think your experience could be
one that could happen in many places where the laws seem to change to
fit the so called crime or benefit the
of crimes themselves.
Such countries should be avoided at all costs. I hope that John and the
others will pursue legal compensation based on what happened.
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Hi Michael and all,
It is refreshing to see your most sensible and humane post to the list
regarding the high frequency ad/posts made by Steve. We need a good
father figure or judge to appoint himself as to what can and can not be
said on the list.
What ever happened to your delete key you
of collections.
--AL Mitterling (who prefers to talk to the real Steve Arnold)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure if they even vacuum the carpet in the meteorite section
at the Chicago Field Museum but once a year due to the lack of foot
traffic (I know they haven't spent any money to update
and share
a topic of meteorite interest. All my best and happy Fourth!
--AL Mitterling
batkol wrote:
so here's a suggestion: in recognition of this holiday weekend
celebrating our freedom, let's liberate this list. if you've got a beef
with someone, show some class like Jason did, and send
Hi Sterling and all,
Good post on the hot and cold issue. It's my believe that most
meteorites are cool to the touch when they fall. However and as in life
there are always exceptions. Apparently the Portales Valley New Mexico
fall had specimens that were hot to the touch. One of these
Hi Chris and all,
I agree with you on the red hot, white hot stories. I don't go along
with those. The study of meteorites is the study of un-differentiated
material, though various degrees of differentiation can tell the solar
system story better. If meteorites were heated to that extreme
Hi all,
Anyone cares to indulge. I'll be there for a while.
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To All,
There has been a request for information on the classification scheme of
Meteorites. I have a number of sources that tell about this and no doubt
there are websites that may tell a lot more. Anyone that can shed more
light please let me know. Also someone may have a book I don't that
To all,
The best attempt to classify meteorites was made by Gustav Rose at the
University of Berlin between the years of 1863 and 1864. He categorized
specimens by employing mineralogical criteria and much of the
terminology which he introduced is still in use today. He also divided
Hi Bernd and all,
Thank you for your excellent post further clarifying the Tschermak
classification scheme. You had it laid out much better than I did in
trying to describe the history of all this. It's been a while since I
covered all this and always fun and educational to re-learn from the
trades on similar items so you can upgrade, but please make
arrangements before bidding. Thank-you for your time!
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Hi Jim,
While you watched this fall I am assuming it was still luminous while it
fell. Did you hear any sound from the fall? Was this a night or day
fall? As far as the pieces you picked up, are the pieces what fell off
the object or could they be from something not related to the fall?
seem close but in reality as
others have said they are miles and most likely hundred's of miles away
from the observer. All my best to you.
--AL Mitterling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes you are right! Ten out of ten times a fire ball looks close when it
is miles away! That is because
Hi Jim,
No one can really say what you saw or didn't see but you. However there
are certain physical traits to a meteorite fall that are well documented
accepted, and proven. Most of the people here can question a witness to
a fireball or meteor and ascertain within a certain amount of time
Hi Bob, Steve and all,
Steve #1 wrote: The Smithsonian and the Canadians, had
miserable results with their fireball image capturing
networks over the long time they spent trying.
Without those results we wouldn't know that meteorites originated from
the asteroid belt. It was an impressive
piece.
I'll be away from the computer for a while and will answer emails on
first come first serve bases.
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Steve,
You wrote a while back that we should get on with discussing meteorites
Then you have the gull to post something like this and call it humor??
You sure have a short memory.
--AL Mitterling
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
I think we should get back to meteorites.The latest thread
Hi Dave and all,
I think what your concern is (tell me if I am wrong), not so much
transporting biological organisms but rather contamination of the planet
then later finding that contamination and declaring there is life there
on the red rock.
As I recall there was great concern when we
Hi Dave and all,
During one shuttle mission, a pallet called the long duration experiment
was launched and was to collect data during it's stay in space for a
few months. Because of the Challenger explosion, and the shuttle fleet
being grounded for sometime, it stayed in space longer than
Hello all and Jeff,
Might it be possible to trace or by process of elimination find from
which area of Russia this might have been fabricated?? Perhaps the
easiest thing would be to follow the money trail and see who sold the
firs specimen. It might be possible to narrow down the fabricators.
.
--AL Mitterling
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Water has major IR absorbance peaks at 3550, 3425, 3295, 1630 and
1455 /cm. An appropriately set IR analyzer at one or more of these
frequencies ought to be able to able to make a positive identification
vs. other glasses (and confirming your
Hi Mark and list,
I find the statement below hard to believe, because of the time to reach
the specimen and it being in moist soil. Perhaps the sun was shinning
(according to Mark's other posts it was partly cloudy) and it had a
chance to heat the black crust before the men reached it. Best!
Hi Mark and all,
Again it makes mention of the specimens being hot. Warmed by the sun the
stones could have been very warm to the touch. No where in Mark's
articles does it describe a colt being killed unless that information
was learned well after the fall. Does the dog.e colt
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Pete Pete wrote:
I know that Lunar meteorites can be identified as to the general area of
origin, including areas from the far side of the moon, but I haven't
read any information about meteorites from Mars in this respect
Hi Tom and all,
The tiles aren't sprayed on but manufactured and each has a number and
fits at an exact place on the Space Shuttles. The Shuttle is contoured
and so each Tile is a bit different from other tiles and why they are
carefully numbered and placed. They use an adhesive glue (type)
Hi Martin,
I'll sell Stefan as many pairs as he wants :-)
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Huh. anyone to sell a parachondrite? Stefan?
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Hi List,
One other thing I might mention, is that Clyde wrote a book on the
discovery of Pluto. The title is Out Of The Darkness, The Planet Pluto
by Clyde W. Tombaugh. Worth a read for those wanting to know more about
the details and politics of this significant discovery.
--AL
Hi Chris and all,
I like the word Plutonianites for these larger objects, planets. Maybe
PlutoPlanets.
--AL
Chris Peterson Wrote:
I say come up with a new word. (for planets)
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Hi John and others,
Pluto hasn't even been know for a century yet. Far as I know it has only
been recently that the status has been questioned with no real
definition yet.
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Kashuba, Ontario, California wrote:
Chris and others,
Pluto has not been referred to as a planet for centuries
, the suggestion was to try to make the list better and in NO WAY is
an effort to accommodate our list spammer, though Elton story kept me
entertained for several minutes :-) I am not an outspoken fan for this
person, quite the opposite.
--AL Mitterling
that you could read. The only problem with
this approach it is as good as the members who honor the topics approach.
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!!! I might add that
this has a tie in to the Billy Graham organization. I was planning to
put some eBay auctions up selling meteorites and listing the Samaritan's
Purse as the place the money would be sent to, as I believe it will do
the most good. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
and in this case it is simply helping the
victims of all this.
No doubt there there are other organizations out there that also have
similar goals that people can donate to but please do your research or
most of the money can end up in the wrong place. All my best!
--AL Mitterling
questions about them I wouldn't donate to them.
I am glad you are concern.
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Hi Anne and all,
Is that the International Red Cross or the American Red Cross??
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meteorites.
I found it a lot of fun to use and perhaps others might also. Hope to
see some new, old faces on there from here. Use the link provided below.
All my best!
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http://www.meteoriteimpact.com/
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an unfair policy by ebay but as
has been pointed out before ebay is in it for the money.
Feel free to email me if you want the name of this buyer.
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Hi harlan and all,
Yes, New England Meteoritical Service is a legitimate business. I think
the owner has had a serious crisis going right now and hasn't been able
to respond to people. Perhaps if things get better he will respond.
I also have emailed him recently and haven't received a
Meteorite (LL5) 11 gm slice w/crust
Thank you for looking and here is the link:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalmittmetQQhtZ-1
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the item they are wanting to know about
but directs you to a log in for answering your question. Certainly
getting more cleaver all the time. Just a heads up and sorry for the
wasted band space here.
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reporter is interested in numbers the interest in crater weight is only
good for the out put of gold/platinum saying. Best and hope this helps.
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Tempe Arizona Collection might yield other specimens. As Bernd said time
consuming but it would be a nice publication I'd buy.
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There is one reference I can provide that may or may not have an answer:
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