Hi Shawn/List,
A few oddities in that article (which is often the case in science
articles written for general consumption). The first is the title:
Meteoroid lands in Stirling area
This is misleading on two fronts. It may or may not have made it to
the ground (as is made clear in the body of
Leave it to snake-oil-salesman Sam to merge my two favorite hobbies!
I'm surprised he didn't come up with something like this earlier... --Rob
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Hi Mike,
Just to confuse things further, I was mixing up the 18 March St. Thomas
meteor with the more recent (4 May) Codrington, Ontario meteor. The
*Codrington* one was the one east of Toronto that might be on radar.
My thanks to Rob Catlin for correcting me and pointing out that St.
Thomas is
Hi Graham,
Wow -- I had no idea Richard's book was going for so much now. And there
is only a single, lightly used copy (with some marking/highlighting) on
eBay right now at $329.44. If someone needs a copy, I have one spare one
in excellent condition that I'd be willing to part with for
Hi Anne,
Thanks for the shout-out regarding meteorite recovery via all-sky camera
triangulation and
Doppler radar. I have some bad news as far as the radar angle that I thought I
would share,
which may help explain some of the recent downturn in meteorite recovery rates
-- at
least in the U.S.
Hi Bob,
Yes -- it's nice to have vindication that the theory we (you, Nick Gessler,
Paul Gessler and I)
published 12 years ago was the right one!
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2002/pdf/5263.pdf
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2006/mar06.htm
--Rob
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Hi Shawn/All,
~Something~ definitely came in over Colorado on 2 September around 10:30 pm MDT.
The long duration and general flight direction (SSW -- NNE) suggested large
space junk
reentry. And indeed, the beautiful radar signature that lasts for over a half
hour looks
just like that of past
Hi Marco: your hypothesis is far more reasonable than a meteorite-caused
impact pit. --Rob
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. However, if you read what CNN
has to say, they've already determined it's from a meteorite
(sheesh!):
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/tech/innovation/nicaragua-meteorite/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Michael in so. Cal.
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Hi All,
Imagine my surprise when I saw my Google Earth Doppler radar composite
of the September 2nd Cosmos 2495 reentry over Colorado and Wyoming
pop up as one of the graphics in Brian Williams' top story on the NBC
Nightly News tonight. ;-) The story wasn't completely accurate -- Brian
reported
Hi Steve/All,
First off, I want to thank you for having an all-sky camera that was operating
during the daytime and captured this event. As far as I know, it is the only
image/video record of the 4 October fireball itself, though of course there
are many images of the smoke trail clouds. Without
Hi All,
Sorry for the premature end -- fat-fingered the send key apparently. Continuing:
Steve was also good enough to travel out to the Bellemont NWS
site that took an image of the smoke trails several minutes after
the fireball. He wrote:
Yesterday at Bellemont Weather Station right under and
Unfortunately, nothing on any of the five closest radars to the fall location.
--Rob
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?
Graham
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meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
Unfortunately, nothing on any of the five closest radars to the fall
location. --Rob
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to be firmly within Texas. I don't think
I'll
have time to look at that one tonight... --Rob
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Hi Mike,
It terminated over Mexico, thus the probable lack of follow-up news. I have
a pretty solid 3D trajectory, and it remained supersonic quite deep into the
atmosphere. There are almost certainly meteorites on the ground, but I
doubt you'll find too many people interested in risking their
Amino acids have been found in the following meteorites of which I'm aware:
Murray (CM2)
Murchison (CM2)
Tagish Lake (C2 ungrouped)
Almahata Sitta (anomalous ureilite)
Sutter's Mill (CM2)
Allan Hills 77306 (CM2)
Allan Hills 83100 (CM2)
Asuka 88120 (CM2)
Asuka 881334 (CM2)
Lewis Cliffs 90500 (CM2)
Hi All,
Thought my internet connection was down, but have determined it's just Google
that's
suddenly not working. You can go to their website, but none of the links for
your search
results will work. First time I've ever seen this... --Rob
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To make this discussion a little more meteorite-specific, in a truly healthy
economy
meteorites could not be purchased for the low prices they currently command. The
economy is doing fine if your gauge of the economy is the stock market. If
you're wealthy, you're probably having a good year. But
This one is a no-brainer -- jet contrail. It's dumbfounding why anyone would
think an object traveling that slowly could be anything other than a plane.
Slow news day in Houston? --Rob
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Hi Andre/Dirk,
I was going to say after looking at the excellent images -- how in the world
did they find it in that terrain?! The witness(es) must have been very close
indeed.
Nice looking stone. --Rob
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Hi Ron/All,
As with Cosmos 2495 last year, I spent several hours this morning pulling
Doppler data
from a dozen radars within range of last night's reentry. Unlike bolides of
late,
reentries have been showing up great on radar, and this one was no exception.
I don't know if the CZ-4B rocket
Hi All,
Randomly checking the NMSU site for recent fireballs, I noticed that Steve
Schoner's
camera picked up a bright, slow-moving one Wednesday during evening twilight:
http://skysentinel.nmsu.edu/allsky/viewer/1355276
Notice that the fireball is actually *rising* in elevation angle as it
Hi Shawn,
The presumed association between Chelyabinsk and (86039) 1999 NC43 is
dependent on whose computed orbit you believe for Chelyabinsk. If you
use the Popova-Jenniskens-Emel'yanenko-et al orbit, (86039) is not a
bad match, though the orbital inclinations differ by 2.2 degrees. Of the
dozen
Tatahouine would have been the perfect meteorite for today's Picture of the Day
(Star Wars Day). ;-) --Rob
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Hi Mike,
Sterling was a victim of character line limits for the mailing list. Editing
the links
so that they're all on the same line works. Might try angle brackets around it
to see if Met-List will keep the link together, e.g.:
Hi John,
I think there are definitely things that can be learned by looking at the
spectroscopy
of fireball emissions, but of course such data are rare. And human
eyeballs/brains
are a poor substitute. We don't have the necessary spectral resolution, and of
course
the optical response is far
Hi Larry,
It all sounds very fishy to me:
"The orebody located on the property is well known as a magnetite resource
having been the
subject of extensive historic exploration since the 1960s. In recent years,
through identification
of extraordinary high-grade iridium in samples, it became
Earth provides no real protection for the Moon from asteroid/meteoroid impact.
I think the earth subtends something like one 15,000th of the celestial sphere
from Luna's perspective. Yes, there is a gravitational factor that improves
that a bit, but you're still talking a tiny fraction of a
Hi All,
Al's post about BJ's Brewery reminded me that I wanted to ask Tucson locals
whether
they would recommend any of these Brewpubs:
Thunder Canyon Brewery -- 220 E. Broadway Blvd. (520) 396-3480
Barrio Brewing Company -- 800 E. 16th St. (520) 791-2739
Borderlands Brewing Company -- 119 E.
Hi Ian,
Since you brought up the Creston fall, presumably as a comparison example
against
current Australian state policies, I feel some counter-commentary is
appropriate.
> Creston is a example of where things went a bit pair shaped in my mind for
> science.
In my opinion, Creston was
Hi Tommy/Art/All,
Great article and a spectacularly oriented meteorite – apparently found in the
general vicinity
of my first meteorite find (Silver Dry Lake 001). [Note: I’m not suggesting
they might be paired!]
I think Bob Haag’s Adamana stone has some serious competition! To think it
spent
Correction to my post yesterday: now that there are two dashcam videos of the
event
(one from Hollywood, the other from Oceanside), it is clear that the Pacific
Ocean bolide
yesterday morning was much further south. The terminal lines of sight intersect
at
30d 42.5' N, 118d 24.5' W, over 120
Hi Michael -- yes, it ended up in the drink. I've got it on Santa Ana radar
(KSOX) near "Fortymile Bank"
at an altitude of 11.3 km at 14:39:03 UT (6:39:03 am PST). Missed the SoCal
coast by about 70 km. :-(
--Rob
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Hi Shawn -- searches are on-going. We know exactly where the meteorites ended
up, but
it's a very difficult area to search. --Rob
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Hi Dirk/All,
I may have this one on multiple radars, centered about 8 km WNW of
Chaneysville, PA,
14 km north of the MD/PA line. Heavily forested area, unfortunately, although
the
earliest return (23:19:12 UT) is over farmland along Bedford Valley Rd. (route
220).
Sonic boom recorded by
Hi All,
Some further information about the circumstances leading to the successful
meteorite recovery east of Lubbock, TX. First off, Mike Hankey deserves special
notice since often the first indication we have of a new potential fall is the
AMS website that he maintains. Marc Fries was the first
Hi All,
I've been revisiting the June 7th, 1998, fall over Stanfield, AZ (Indian
Butte), attempting to better
constrain the original bolide flight direction. I know David Kring at the time
collected hundreds of
reports from witnesses, trying to piece together the trajectory and a likely
fall
Hi All,
AMS event # 994-2016 did not have a large number of witnesses (no doubt due to
it
occurring at 2:15 am CST) but it appears to have been a potential meteorite
dropper.
Dan B. from Albany, MO, reported: "This was the second brightest meteor that
my cameras have ever recorded. The other
Hi Matija,
Peter is correct of course: there will be no meteorites from any of the gas
giants. However,
perhaps you meant one of Jupiter's satellites? That would be a possibility. Of
course, the impact
producing such future meteorites would have to be sufficiently energetic for
fragments to
Hi Ron/All,
Fireball ended up in the Pacific Ocean a good 100 miles off the coast of
northern Baja.
It was recorded by at least 5 all-sky cameras in addition to the dashcam video
from
I-5 south in Mission Viejo. Time of the event was 9:38:00 pm PDT (4:38 UT).
--Rob
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Hi Shawn,
> I guess there is a reward for a piece of the meteorite fall in Maine.
> $20,000. I wonder if that's for the main mass, or a piece of the Lunar
> meteorite?
Actually, neither. The stipulation was for the first 1 kg (very unlikely that
one that large
will be found). In any event,
Hi Dirk,
Do you happen to know the asteroid designations that the Taiwan elementary
school children found?
(15 minutes of searching the web has not been fruitful.) I'm assuming they are
part of the IASC
("Isaac") international search campaign which involves students (almost
entirely high
Hi Sonny/All,
Note the label on the picture: Osceola #8. Doug is letting us in on a little
secret he's
been holding onto for the last 6 weeks or so -- that he knows the pictured find
is
#8 means that he ~also~ found #7, since previously only six finds were known.
:-)
Like Larry and Mike's
A related faux pas: desalinization. No such word, but I bet it will become one
so as not to embarrass the media members who like to use it. ;-). --Rob
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Hi All,
> I'm now working through the math to figure out the latitude on earth where you
> age the slowest.
Turns out the combination of 1/r GR effect from mass, a latitude-dependent
quadrupole
component, and the centripetal term (special relativity) due to the earth's
rotation nearly
As the Count said, far too light. End of story. But it's good that he put it
inside a plastic bag to
protect himself from radiation. Next time I'm getting x-rays at the dentist,
I'll tell her she
can forgo the lead apron -- a plastic sheet will work just fine. ;-) --Rob
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n "error" of a couple of nanoseconds ;-)
Kindest wishes
Doug
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Subject: Re: [meteor
It's not a bad idea, Pete, but unfortunately the time dilation is really
minimal unless you get up
to a substantial fraction of the speed of light. For instance, even at solar
system escape velocity
at earth's distance from the sun (42 km/sec), a meteoroid's clock would be
running at about
10
If the meteorite had a temperature significantly different from ambient, I'd go
with
extremely cold (e.g. -30 F). To the unsuspecting, bitter cold could be
misinterpreted
as very hot. If you don't believe me, try putting a clothes iron in the freezer
for a
couple hours and then surprise someone
Hi Marc,
Here are the time-stamps I've got for these, and the prospects for refining
some of them:
Indian Butte - 7 June 1998, ~8:58 pm MST (3:58 UT on 8 June 1998); Robert Ward
might have a more
accurate time. This time is based on a single California witness. I'm unaware
of any
016 10:31 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More fun with GR
For the satellite, it varies according to the gravity field it flies over.
Technically none exists because the gravity field is never constant. It
dithers.
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Hi All,
Playing Devil's Advocate, I decided to try coming up with a scenario that
attempts to maximize the
thermal equilibrium temperature of a chondritic meteoroid just prior to
encountering the earth's
atmosphere. The typical formula for computing the thermal equilibrium
temperature for an
Hi Larry/All,
Yes -- that's where that factor of 4 comes into the denominator. For a sphere,
one hemisphere is collecting solar radiation. If the sphere's radius is R, then
the
sphere presents pi*R^2 of collecting area -- same as if it were a disk of
radius R
pointing normal to the sun.
Hi Bill -- tons of radar hits. Unfortunately, it's all 5 to 25 km offshore into
Lake Michigan,
east of Cleveland, WI. :-( --Rob
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Doug's post reminded me -- hard to believe it's already been one year since the
Osceola fall
into the swamps of northeast Florida!
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Sonic boom recorded for this event at 9:12:06 UT on 25 January 2017 at seismic
station CO.BIRD
in Birdtown, Kershaw, SC (34.645 N, 80.4615 W). --Rob
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Hi James -- checked this one this morning. Hawley, TX, allsky camera caught it
very low on the
horizon at 12:14:05 UT (6:14:05 am CST), establishing an accurate time for the
event. I didn't
find anything good on nearby seismographs, which is surprising given that they
tend to be
more sensitive
AMS event 270-2017 generated a sonic boom that was recorded at 9:12:06 UT on
25 January 2017 at seismic station CO.BIRD in Birdtown, Kershaw, SC (34.645 N,
80.4615 W).
It was also recorded (much less strongly) by N4.Y57A in Sumter, SC (34.017 N,
80.3915 W)
at 9:14:19 - 2 minutes 13 seconds
Hi Tracy,
I will most likely be watching from Grand Teton National Park (along with
probably ten
thousand other people!), with the flexibility to head east-southeast if morning
clouds
threaten to spoil the show. The centerline actually passes directly over
Jackson Hole
Airport, and just a
Hi Bill -- you must have missed it in the article: 6th paragraph: "At 92%
iron, 7% nickel, and a 1% mix of sulfur,
carbon and other elements, the Lilienthal's meteorite was part of an asteroid,
formed 4.5 billion years ago
at the dawn of the solar system, essentially a leftover from the same
Hi George,
Pat Branch and I have been working the event pretty hard the last 3 days:
dashcam triangulation,
sonic boom measurements from multiple stations, etc. You can find much of our
discussion
on the event on the Galactic Analytics Facebook page. --Rob
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Hi All: I'm not sure if my memory is correct, but doesn't or didn't Joel Schiff
live in Dunedin, New Zealand. I ask because I'm driving through the area right
now. :-). --Rob
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Hi Ruben:
"These pictures were taken with a hand held digital camera so, no worries."
Just FYI, depending on the camera, that is not a safe assumption. I have a
point-and-shoot Olympus TG Tough digital camera that I use primarily for scuba
diving and snorkeling and it has a GPS receiver and
I call BS. Alternate spelling of well-known meteorite afficionado. No way would
I click that URL link.
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Hi Tom/List -- I'm betting this was the reentry of 2017-056B: the Progress MS07
ISS
resupply rocket body. It was predicted to reentry today (this evening) at 15:53
UTC
+/- 2 hours. The ground track took it right over the Persian Gulf going
northwest
to southeast on its descending node. --Rob
Hi Paul,
I think it ended up quite a bit south of Meadow Creek. --Rob
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Hi Mike,
It is indeed an intriguing interloper, with much speculation on MPML as to its
possible origin and the dynamics of its ejection from its original star system.
Its spectral characteristics (admittedly limited spectral resolution so far)
seem
more consistent with an asteroid than a comet,
Hi All,
Catalina Sky Survey has done it again -- discovery of an impacting NEO, this
time
just 8 1/2 hours prior to impact. CSS discovered the NEO at 8:14 UT today (1:14
am
MST), and a bright vapor trail was seen to the north of observer Dhiraj S in
Botswana
(24° 37' 21'' S, 25° 54' 57'' E) at
Hi All,
Don't know if this story has been posted here before -- sounds like a pretty
successful young lady:
Hi Paul: that plant sounds like it was harvested from the planet in "The Way to
Eden"
(Star Trek original series, season 3)... ;-) --Rob
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Hi All,
By way of follow-up to my prior post, a significant seismic signature for the
Michigan
event can be found on the US.AAM Ann Arbor seismic station at 01:10:16 UT on
17 January 2018. I've created the following link for you to display the
waveform:
One of the finds Robert is holding doesn't look that small to me -- looks over
100 grams based on the size. Very nice! --Rob
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Hi Greg – Chris Peterson summed it up nicely. I would venture to guess that
bolides that
lead to meteorites on the ground more often than not generate detectable seismic
(i.e. acoustic) signatures. Of the U.S. recovered falls since 2010, at the
times those
events occurred I found seismic
Happy 2-year anniversary for the Osceola, Florida fall! --Rob
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It was my understanding that the 26- or 27-million-year periodicity idea was
discredited some time ago as not being statistically significant. In any case,
no “Nemesis” red- or brown-dwarf companion star (presumably in a highly
elliptical orbit) has ever been found, and if one existed within even
Happy 5-year anniversary, Chelyabinsk! Time flies... --Rob
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I do wish Marc and NASA every success in trying to pull this off. What
surprises me is
that a similar effort wasn't undertaken for the fall over Lake Michigan last
year, just
offshore from Wisconsin. That one should be FAR easier to recover -- the water
is
clear (thanks to the zebra mussels),
What's baffling is why everyone is looking in Macomb County. It should be public
knowledge by now where the fall occurred, and Macomb County is over 35 miles
away
from that location. --Rob
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Hi All -- I sent this to one of my Yahoo groups and figured there would also be
interest here. Below are my favored orbital segments for the imminent reentry
of the Chinese space station Tiangong-1, based on the assumption that reentry
will occur on an ascending node near minimum satellite
Indeed, and a number of which you have first-hand experience with! I find it
entertaining
that reentry could occur over Sudan -- possibly less than 100 miles from the
Almahata
Sitta fall site. --Rob
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Sent:
Hi John,
"Right now: its speed is 4.86mi/s, altitude 87.63 and orbit period is 88mins."
Keep in mind that the altitude is quite variable since the orbit is elliptical
and the
earth's radius varies with latitude. Orbital perigee is currently occurring
close to
the northern apex of the orbit (on
Hi Randy,
It hadn't been mentioned yet on the Met-List. I worked this fall last week
(unaware
that Marc Fries had already done so), so the fortunate result of the independent
analysis is that two people came up with the same answer and the exact same
radar returns. (I also analyzed the
Congrats to NASA/JPL and the Mars Insight team for the successful touchdown on
Mars
just a few moments ago (ignoring special relativity)! --Rob
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Happy 3-year anniversary, Osceola, Florida!
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Paris is having a tough year: fire has essentially destroyed the Cathedral of
Notre-Dame. The towering
central spire collapsed just hours ago:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/15/paris-notre-dame-cathedral-on-fire-reuters.html
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Hi All -- if I'm not mistaken, the Sutter's Mill fall occurred 7 years ago
today. Hard to believe
it's been that long already! --Rob
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I’ve never been to Willcox when it *wasn’t* a bog. On my first visit, I arrived
on the lakebed around
midnight and did a little poking around with a flashlight in the sub-freezing
temperatures before
sleeping in my vehicle. Got up at dawn and started crunching around on the
frozen ground. By
Concur – I sometimes go months between check-ins at FB; Met-List posts I see
immediately. –Rob (also in SoCal)
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Seems to me that one possible explanation has been danced around: that the
collection owner might have died (perhaps unexpectedly), and the
spouse/family/estate knew little about meteorites. If so, it would illustrate
the importance of having a living will with clear instructions for “exotic”
Hi Marc: I looked yesterday, but also came up empty. Checked both Burlington
and Portland radars. There are the usual transient blips in the general area of
the AMS-triangulated track, but nothing that unambiguously screams meteorite
fall. --Rob
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