[meteorite-list] Last message

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear List members

I am just dropping a line to everyone on the list to announce with regret that 
this message will be my last contribution to the list.

I would sincerely like to thank everyone who has contacted me through the list, 
or has replied to a message I have sent; whether good or bad. To use an old 
cliché, being a subscriber to this list has been a "roller coaster ride". I 
would also just like to pass on my best wishes to everyone on the list, their 
families and friends and to wish you all the best for the future - whatever it 
might bring.

Anyone who wishes to contact me for any reason can still use my normal e-mail 
address.

Thank you and good night!

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

Celts, a major exhibition at the National Museum of Scotland, 10 March-25 
September 2016. Book now at www.nms.ac.uk/celts

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite reveals rare unstable element

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear List

An interesting article, I will access the original on the Science Advances 
website to get the whole story. However, I found the EarthSky piece full of 
some very fundamental errors!

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of mineral via Meteorite-list
Sent: 09 March 2016 14:15
To: Meteoritelist
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite reveals rare unstable element

http://earthsky.org/space/meteorite-reveals-rare-unstable-element




Thanks, Derek. 

Celts, a major exhibition at the National Museum of Scotland, 10 March-25 
September 2016. Book now at www.nms.ac.uk/celts

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Re: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball Over Scotland

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear Ron and Everyone on the List

Some quite spectacular images were shown on the news here. As usual the 
broadcasters never seem to get the facts quite right. From what I saw on TV, it 
seemed to be a meteor or possibly a piece of space junk but what I am not sure 
about from all that has been said, or written, is the exact 
trajectory/direction of the fall so at present there is no indication if any 
material actually fell to Earth. So I would say to any would-be hunters to hold 
on until more information is available - also that part of the World is having 
a lot of bad weather at the moment so traipsing around in a sparsely populated 
area with poor weather, poor light and poor visibility is probably not 
advisable.

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Ron Baalke via Meteorite-list
Sent: 01 March 2016 20:34
To: Meteorite Mailing List
Subject: [meteorite-list] Large Fireball Over Scotland



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3470708/The-flash-sky-turned-night-day-Comet-lights-horizon-Inverness-Edinburgh.html

The mystery 'meteor' that turned night into day: Giant fireball lights up the 
horizon across Scotland and leaves onlookers terrified 

* Thousands of people saw hug flash of light from Inverness to Edinburgh
* Light followed by rolling bang that some thought was satellite sonic boom
* Twitter lit up with speculation over the event, which made ground shake
* Police and the MoD said they were unaware of what could have caused it  

By Maureen Sugden For The Scottish Daily Mail and Martin Robinson, Uk Chief 
Reporter For Mailonline March 1, 2016

People from Inverness to Edinburgh reported a white, red or blue light that 
swept across the skyline at around 6.45pm last night.

Witnesses described a rumbling noise lasting up to ten seconds before the pitch 
black Scottish evening turned bright white and a fireball swept across the 
horizon. 

Kim Paterson of Brechin, Angus, tweeted: 'Proper massive rumble, ground 
shaking, folk seeing the sky flash... is this the end?!' 

Police Scotland said it received a number of 999 calls and confirmed it was 
likely to be a meteor while the Met Office confirmed there had been no thunder 
storms over Scotland. 

There were suggestions it could have been a sonic boom from an aircraft or a 
flare from a satellite.

There were no reports of aircraft in distress, while the MoD said it was 
unaware of any events in the area - but would not comment on claims it was 
linked to an aircraft.

Astronomers last night said it was most likely to be a meteor burning up as it 
came into contact with the Earth's atmosphere.

The meteor is likely to have burned up but people are searching for debris.

On Twitter, Jake Logan said: 'Flash in the sky that lit up Braemar like 
daylight, followed by a huge rolling bang like thunder that lasted 10 secs. Sky 
is clear.' 

John Poyner of Nethy Bridge, Inverness-shire, said: 'Anyone local just see a 
bright flash lighting up whole sky. Not lightning. Reports of brilliant meteor 
like object.'

A Police Scotland spokesman said they began receiving calls at around 6.55pm on 
Monday evening.

She said: 'One told us the sky had been lit up with an object like a fireball. 
Another caller said there was a very loud bang and others said the house shook.

'We know police in Inverness and in the south also received calls - it was seen 
by people across Scotland.
'We have checked and been told it was likely to be a meteor shower.' 

The bright white streak across the night sky sparked speculation on social 
media whether it was an astronomical event, military activity or, perhaps more 
far-fetched, linked to British astronaut Tim Peake.

Inverness SNP member Jackie Hendry tweeted: 'Did anyone else see that big white 
flash in the sky ... I reckon it was Tim Peake.'

Madcow-paula tweeted: 'LOL ... some reckon @astro-timpeake dropped something 
causing a big white flash in the sky over Scotland this evening!'

SteveCDT1986 tweeted:'Big white flash and some sort of meteor in the night sky. 
Looked really close aswell. #endoftheworld #armageddon.'

@Colsuth tweeted: 'saw it here in Moray just as we were passing RAF Lossie. 
Thought it was from there.'

A Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said they would not discuss if there was any 
link to any operations in the area.

STV weather forecaster Sean Batty said: 'I've had lots of tweets from around 
the North and East of the country this evening, with people reporting a loud 
bang and a large flash in the sky. Most tweets have come from around 
Perthshire, Angus, Aberdeenshire and Moray.

'There are no thunderstorms being reported anywhere in Scotland this evening, 
therefore this is not due to a flash of lightning. My 

Re: [meteorite-list] China Now Hosts The World's Largest Gem and Mineral Show

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear List members

I would be very wary of the figures quoted here. As someone on the list has 
already mentioned, the shows at Changsha (now gone forever), Chenzhou and 
elsewhere are largely attended by locals and students bussed in by the Chinese 
government to artificially boost numbers. A number of prominent mineral dealers 
that I know, who have the knowledge and experience of mineral shows World-wide, 
are all very scathing about the Chinese shows. It may well be that once these 
shows have been running for a number of years (like Tucson and Munich) then 
thinks will settle down and trust between seller and buyer may eventually be 
built up.

My recent experiences of trying to get the Chinese to organise an international 
mineralogy conference have proved to be one of the most frustrating periods of 
my professional life. China may have made many great strides in some fields, 
but are hide-bound by politics. The result of all this is that the conference 
will probably not go ahead. Poor organisation and political 
interference/favouritism are among the main culprits.

I am a relative Tucson newbie (this will be my fifth visit), and the city can 
be a difficult place to reach from Scotland, but it is still (along with 
Munich) the place to go to catch up with old friends, meet new ones and most 
importantly see some great specimens! I would not be too worried about 
attendance figures. The main show, where I have my small display, is still 
pretty busy on all the days that it is open and the hotels and smaller shows 
around the city still seem to attract a lot of people. Long may it continue.

Hope to see a few of you there.

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Sent: 23 January 2016 18:07
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] China Now Hosts The World's Largest Gem and Mineral 
Show

Dear List Members,

I was shocked to hear that the Tucson Gem and Mineral show is no longer the 
world's largest.  It looks like China is in first place with attendance figures 
of over 380,000 for a four day event in 2015 compared to less than
40,000 for Tucson.

http://www.friendsofmineralogy.org/newsletters/2015_Jul.pdf

Maybe I should attend this year to add support for this American show that has 
been running since 1955 while the Chinese show has only existed for a mere 3 
years.

Adam




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Re: [meteorite-list] Guns made of meteorite: Price tag $1 million

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear Tommy and All

I will be interested to see the reaction of listees to this article. A few 
years ago I posted a small "flyer" for the work of an artist who had taken a 
piece of Campo, made a mould of it, melted the meteorite then cast it in the 
mould she had made earlier and put it on display in an exhibition of her work. 
This piece of news generated a great deal of, mainly negative, comment on the 
list. Can someone point out to me how this use of a meteorite, to make a 
weapon, is different (for better or worse) to the artwork my friend created?

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

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From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Tommy via Meteorite-list
Sent: 15 January 2016 13:16
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Guns made of meteorite: Price tag $1 million


http://bit.ly/1SRLDK1

Regards!

Tom

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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year to the World

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Anne and all the Meteorite Community

Wishing all my friends and acquaintances around the globe a very happy and 
successful New Year from bonnie Scotland. I hope to see a few of you in Tucson 
again.

A guid New Year tae yin an' a'.

Good hunting

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Anne Black via Meteorite-list
Sent: 31 December 2015 22:27
To: mikest...@gmail.com; j...@lutzon.com
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year to the World

OK, Michael,


HAPPY NEW YEAR TO MOST OF THE WORLD!!!

Lets hope that 2016 will be kinder to all than 2015.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list 
To: John Lutzon 
Cc: Meteorite List 
Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2015 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Happy New Year to the World

Not quite everyone everywhere, John.  It's often easy to assume the whole world 
does everything like we do, but there are a multitude of cultures and belief 
systems to take into account.  Here's a small list of countries and people who 
do not follow the Gregorian New Year (from
wikipedia):

Ethiopian New Year called Enkutatash. It is celebrated on September 11 
(September 12 in leap years).

The Odunde Festival is also called the "African New Year" is celebrated in 
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in the United States on the second Sunday of June.

Cambodian New Year (Chaul Chnam Thmey) is celebrated on April 13 or April 14.

Chinese New Year is celebrated in many countries around the world. It is the 
first day of the lunar calendar and is corrected for the solar every three 
years.

Korean New Year, called Seollal, is the first day of the lunar calendar.

Thai New Year is celebrated on April 13 or April 14 and is called Songkran in 
the local language.

Vietnamese New Year normally falls between 20 January and 20 February.

In the Gwaun Valley, Pembrokeshire, Wales the new year is celebrated on January 
13, based on the Julian calendar.

Hijri New Year in the Islamic culture is also known as Islamic new year is the 
day that marks the beginning of a new Islamic calendar year. New Year moves 
from year to year because the Islamic calendar is a lunar calendar.

Nowruz marks the first day of spring and the beginning of the year in Iranian 
calendar. It is celebrated on the day of the astronomical vernal equinox.
Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish new year, falls during September or October.

Hindu in Assam, Bengal, Kerala, Nepal, Orissa, Punjab and Tamil Nadu celebrate 
the new year when the Sun enters Aries on the Hindu calendar. This is normally 
on April 14 or April 15.

Unlike most other calendar systems in India, the New Year's Day on the 
Malayalam Calendar is not based on any astronomical event. It is just the first 
day of the first of the twelve months on the Malayalam Calendar.

The Sikh New Year is celebrated as per the Nanakshahi calendar. The epoch of 
this calendar is the birth of the first Sikh Guru, Guru Nanak in 1469. New 
Year's Day falls annually on what is March 14 in the Gregorian Western calendar.

Sinhalese New Year is celebrated in Sri Lankan culture predominantly by the Sri 
Lankan Sinhalese, while the Tamil New Year on the same day is celebrated by Sri 
Lankan Tamils. The Sinhalese New Year marks the end of harvest season, by the 
month of Bak (April) between April 13 and April 14.

Telugu New Year (Ugadi), Kannada New Year (Yugadi) is celebrated in March 
(generally), April (occasionally).


Globally yours,
Michael in so. Cal.

Hippy Nude Year!

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:28 AM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:
> Everyone, Everywhere,
>
> Happy New Year !!!
>
> Happiness and Good Health to everyone.
>
> John Lutzon
> IMCA#1896
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Must See!

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Adam

I agree with Mike on this. My day job is curator of minerals and this doesn't 
look like a natural nugget to me.

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

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From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
Sent: 01 September 2015 19:59
To: Raremeteorites
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Must See!

Adam. I've been messing with and selling gold nuggets for many years. That's 
fake. Man-made melted gold. 
That is not a natural nugget.


Michael Farmer

> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List Members,
> 
> I have some great items ending at auction this evening.  I have two great 
> pieces of NWA 5000 that are a little different than what would be considered 
> "normal" since they are shock darkened!  I have six gold nugget auctions 
> ending as well. I am also directly offering a huge 2/3 troy ounce "oriented" 
> gold nugget that was recently found in nearby Arizona.  You need to at least 
> take a look at the "oriented" gold nugget images posted below.  You will be 
> amazed!
> 
> Link to all auctions:
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/merchant/ancientechoesartifacts
> 
> Some very nice NWA 5000 lunar specimens:
> 
> Legendary NWA 5000 Lunar Meteorite Moon Rock .750 grams - NO RESERVE!
> http://r.ebay.com/MzTlHA
> 
> Legendary NWA 5000 Lunar Meteorite Moon Rock .874 grams - NO RESERVE!
> http://r.ebay.com/5zSOHh
> 
> 
> This 20.48 gram (2/3 troy ounce) gold nugget was found near Prescott, Arizona 
> with a Minelab metal detector at over 12 inches deep.  If it were made of 
> nickel iron, I would swear that I was looking at an oriented Sikhote Alin.  
> It has what looks like impact pits (zap pits), flight markings and a lip-over 
> rim!   This piece is not running on eBay so I will take direct offers.  I 
> would prefer to place it with a meteorite collector who has advanced into 
> mineral collecting so that the uniqueness of the piece could be greater 
> appreciated.
> 
> Remember, mineral collectors are currently paying 20 to 200% higher than 
> bullion value on gold nuggets depending on character.  This one is very 
> interesting in that it would lend itself perfectly for a pendant since it is 
> pear shaped.  I will even provide the exact find coordinates to the lucky 
> buyer.
> 
> Ten images of Super Gold Nugget
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZa.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZb.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZc.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZd.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZe.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZf.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZg.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZh.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZi.jpg
> 
> http://themeteoritesite.com/RyePatch/GOLDAZj.jpg
> 
> 
> Thank You for Looking and if you are bidding, Good Luck,
> 
> Adam Hupe
> Team LunarRock
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Geologists Unearth Fully Intact Rock

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Morning Sky Watchers

Check the date of this - a bit close to 1st April for my liking

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
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TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Sent: 13 August 2015 02:28
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Geologists Unearth Fully Intact Rock

Wow, maybe they can negotiate a million dollar grant to study it!  The 
California, Mantis Shrimp Running on a Treadmill, project brought in some 
serious research coinage.


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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:57 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Geologists Unearth Fully Intact Rock


 Geologists Unearth Fully Intact Rock
 The Onion, News in Brief, April 3, 2015
 Environment · Science  Technology Science
 http://www.theonion.com/article/geologists-unearth-fully-intact-rock-38364

 Sounds too much like an actual university PR person, who has
 written one too many press release, without taking a vaction.  :-) :-)

 Yours,

 Paul H.
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Meet the pioneers of photography at the National Museum of Scotland this 
summer. Photography: A Victorian Sensation, 19 June-22 November 2015.
www.nms.ac.uk/photography

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Re: [meteorite-list] Social media might destroy meteorite collecting and selling!

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Shawn

I agree with you to a very large extent. The number of fakes and 
meteorwrongs appearing online, and through public enquiries to the museum, 
does seem to be increasing. In the last couple of weeks I have seen, or dealt 
with about half a dozen of them. Whether or not this can be blamed on social 
media I don't know. Yes, it does spread awareness of meteorites and increases 
their visibility. If the result of that is someone contacting me at the museum 
with an enquiry, then I am more than happy to deal with that in a courteous, 
open, honest and professional way. My concern is that, having given a negative 
answer (and they almost without question are) to an enquiry about a possible 
meteorite, I (or any curator/collector) become the subject of a vicious 
trolling campaign and find that our professional (and sometime personal) 
reputation is brought into question for no other reason than we gave the 
wrong answer.

Social media is a powerful tool. I would say that it is mostly benign, even 
trivial, in the overwhelming number of cases. But just occasionally things do 
get out of hand. 

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
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Sent: 05 July 2015 20:42
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Social media might destroy meteorite collecting and 
selling!

Hello Listers

I have noticed an explosion of people insisting they have found a meteorite 
popping up everywhere on FB. And now ebay is having an influx of fakes being 
offered on there. Couple years ago it wasnt that often you would see fakes on 
there, but now its a common theme. I mean people think that its a common 
occurrence with finding a meteorite, and now they come infused with gold. What 
should we do? Today I saw 5 fake meteorites being sold on ebay within a couple 
minutes when I do my ebay search to see whats been posted recently to ebay, 
that's kinda scary and some of them have bids. I noticed that the more 
meteorite groups that keep popping up on FB the more people think they have a 
meteorite and insist its real. These social media groups are fragmenting the 
core group of meteorites collectors, sellers, and dealers. Couple years ago MC 
was buzzing, but now its quite on here. Also on FB people are lazy and just hit 
like LOL and say nothing cause they have to read the next post and like tha
 t. Don't get me wrong I dig FB but I think we need to rethink these social 
media outlets and start chatting more on MC. :) 

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
Website http://meteoritefalls.com 

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Re: [meteorite-list] on ebay Gold and Copper Meteorite CAMPO del CIELO 38.8 grams

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Hello Friends and Colleagues

Well, what can I say? I'll take a dozen please! Laughed so much I fell off my 
chair. 

Have a great weekend

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38.8 grams

Hello Listers

Can this really happen gold infused to a meteorite natural? 

ebay auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unique-Rarity-Gold-and-Copper-Meteorite-CAMPO-del-CIELO-38-8-grams-/281735356242?_trksid=p2056016.l4276

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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim news

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Dear Anne

Thank you for the information. I will not be able to come this year due to 
other commitments, but I am intending to come in 2016, where I hope to speak, 
if it can be arranged, about a forthcoming exhibition I am developing to 
celebrate the Centenary of the Strathmore Meteorite fall.

Cheers

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Natural Sciences Department
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E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk


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Sent: 31 March 2015 02:58
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: alain.devilli...@sfr.fr; sabine.vala...@univ-poitiers.fr
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim news

Hello everybody,

Zelimir does read his emails including mine a few days ago, but he is still 
having difficulties responding, so here is what he has been meaning to tell you.

Any questions, please email him directly, but if you do not get an answer, do 
let me know.
 
Anne Black


ENSISHEIM “METEORITE 2015” NEWS
(March 30, 2015)


Dear Meteorite-Central List, IMCA members and all meteorite friends,

On March 28, Anne Black wrote:
---
To answer Pierre-Marie, and anyone who might be worried, I checked with the 
Ensisheim team, everything is getting prepared as usual, no problems at all. 
Zelimir is very busy, traveling a lot and not always within sight of a 
computer, but no worries.

The Ensisheim Show will happen as usual. This year:  From June 19 to 21.
See you there.

Anne was perfectly right and she pertinently summarized the facts: very busy 
times, frequent travelling, scarce computer connections, that was it.
 
However, there was another major factor that prevented me from officially 
giving you the 2015 show news. It was linked to a series of uncertainties 
regarding the real possibility for us to even be able to continue to organize 
the event! 

All started with a long time decision of Jean-Marie Blosser to retire from the 
head of the brotherhood. 
His decision was soon followed by the consequent withdrawal of the other 3 
permanent members of the brotherhood Grand Council (except myself) and 
therefore by the predictable disappearance of the “St George Brotherhood of the 
Ensisheim Meteorite Guardians” during the course of 2015. 
As a logical consequence, the very continuation to organize the Ensisheim 
Meteorite Show, at least under the auspices of the brotherhood, had to be 
questioned. 

Fortunately, the Meteorite belongs to the Ensisheim City Hall authorities. 
When I contacted the city mayor to inquire whether they wish to continue to 
organize the meteorite shows in his city, he fully agreed that we rapidly meet. 
And indeed, we promptly agreed to decide that “the show MUST go on”! 

It took us another few weeks to embody the decision by rebuilding a new team, 
by envisaging a new logistics strategy and by setting up a few provisional new 
rules for this forthcoming 2015 show edition, before we create a new 
brotherhood (or any other kind of official association) for 2016 and the years 
to come.

Now that everything is clarified again, I dare to apologize for being so late 
in providing show news and in replying only now to those who inquired for show 
details or who wanted to make sure their usual tables are duly reserved 
(Pierre-Marie in particular).

Please find here down preliminary news concerning this “a little special” 16th 
edition of our meteorite show “Ensisheim-Meteorite 2015”. 

--
When compared to the last year’s show editions, the changes are very minor. 

The place (Regency Palace in Ensisheim), the dates (the week preceding the Ste 
Marie show, namely from Friday June 19 to Sunday June 21, 2015), as well as the 
usual hall table arrangements remain unchanged. 

The total number of dealer tables remains limited to 59 (53 “regular” and 6 
“window-tables” in the consignment room). All tables are equal in size (160 x 
80 cm). Price per table (not per meter), as in 2015, namely: 1 table = 155 
euro; 2 tables = 300 euro; 3 tables = 430 euro; 4 tables = 560 euro….) 

All past dealers/guests have full priority to reserve their last year table(s). 
Those who did not come last year (2014) had lost their priority and should be 
considered as “newcomers”. 

For the 2015 booking, we encourage our regular guests to do that ASAP, 
preferably before the end of April 2015 (slightly flexible deadline). However, 
if you already had reserved “implicitly” or “think that you have reserved”, 
please apply again and confirm (or cancel) your table. This is needed so as to 
fit the new 2015 administrative requirements.

The organizers will attribute to the newcomers the layout of places within any 
of the 3 halls in the most appropriate way so as to meet as many wishes as 
possible. Note that the 3 halls are all equivalent, as the public must 

Re: [meteorite-list] John Kashuba

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Pete Pete (so good they named him twice)

Who should contact you? I do know who John Kashuba is but what is the problem? 
Hope he is OK?

Cheers

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Senior Curator of Mineralogy

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk

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Please contact me.


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[meteorite-list] Katie Paterson - the last word?

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear All

Thank you again for all the replies and for the generally well written and 
argued cases you put to back up your point-of-view. I was a pleasure to be part 
of this debate and encouraging to see how many people have been touched by this 
topic - enough to put finger to keyboard and say what you feel. If anyone wants 
to contact me about this please do so off list and I will be happy to reply. In 
the meantime I think that it is time to close down this particular thread.

Best Wishes

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Minerals

National Museums Collection Centre
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Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Paul

Thanks for this. I have seen this particular cartoon, and some similar ones, 
before. It doesn't quite respond to what I said below, dealing as it does with 
the notion of art as commodity. It is a kind of short, cartoon version of the 
story of The Emperor's New Clothes. It does however express the way I 
personally feel about the art business (for that is what it surely is today) in 
that the value of any piece often seems to be in inverse proportion to its 
artistic merit (if any) and reflects what only a few, select people define as 
cutting edge or important. Thereby sending its valuation through the roof, 
while other artists struggle to survive. In the longer term, art critics, 
dealers and writers (as well as the public) will assess things differently 
based on the cultural milieu of the time. After all, in 1930's Germany, Hitler 
and the Nazi Party became the de facto arbiters of taste condemning many 
artists and their work (in all the fields of artist endeavour) as entartete Ku
 nst (degenerate art) and confining their work to the bonfire and forcing the 
artists to comply or to flee. We now consider the work of these artists, 
musicians and writers as very important - maybe in a hundred years we will take 
a different view. 

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Minerals

National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
00 44 131 247 4283
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Sent: 06 August 2014 16:36
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson

Here's an artistic take on that sentiment

http://www.pinterest.com/pin/280419514268664191/

cheers

paul swartz
imca 5204
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

 understand what aspects of the object she 
has destroyedmost of the general public/other artists etc. will see the 
object as unchanged!

Graham

On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Dear Lads and Lassies

 Thank you to those who replied to the e-mail I sent about the meteorite 
 sculpture by Katie Paterson which has been sent into space. To be honest I 
 didn't expect a positive response and that is exactly what I got. I attended 
 a talk by Katie last Saturday (2nd August) and I actually got to handle 
 several of the meteorites she has recast. An odd and slightly disconcerting 
 experience I thought. We got to chatting about possible future collaborations 
 but it remains to be seen what that might actually turn out to mean.

 I have always believed that it one of the purposes of art (among many other 
 things) to challenge, shock and discomfort people and ideas by presenting the 
 familiar in a new and unfamiliar way - to make people rethink their ideas and 
 to challenge them to take stock of their old values. This particular project 
 does seem to have raised a few eyebrows and rattled a few cages. I am mulling 
 over the idea of asking Katie if I could present these items at Ensisheim one 
 year.

 Cheers

 Peter Davidson
 Senior Curator of Minerals

 National Museums Collection Centre
 242 West Granton Road
 Edinburgh
 EH5 1JA
 00 44 131 247 4283
 p.david...@nms.ac.uk


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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson

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On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote:
 Dear Lads and Lassies

 Thank you to those who replied to the e-mail I sent about the meteorite 
 sculpture by Katie Paterson which has been sent into space. To be honest I 
 didn't expect a positive response and that is exactly what I got. I attended 
 a talk by Katie last Saturday (2nd August) and I actually got to handle 
 several of the meteorites she has recast. An odd and slightly disconcerting 
 experience I thought. We got to chatting about possible future collaborations 
 but it remains to be seen what that might actually turn out to mean.

 I have always believed that it one of the purposes of art (among many other 
 things) to challenge, shock and discomfort people and ideas by presenting the 
 familiar in a new and unfamiliar way - to make people rethink their ideas and 
 to challenge them to take stock of their old values. This particular project 
 does seem to have raised a few eyebrows and rattled a few cages. I am mulling 
 over the idea of asking Katie if I could present these items at Ensisheim one 
 year.

 Cheers

 Peter Davidson
 Senior Curator of Minerals

 National Museums Collection Centre
 242 West Granton Road
 Edinburgh
 EH5 1JA
 00 44 131 247 4283
 p.david...@nms.ac.uk


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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Dear Lads and Lassies

Thank you to those who replied to the e-mail I sent about the meteorite 
sculpture by Katie Paterson which has been sent into space. To be honest I 
didn't expect a positive response and that is exactly what I got. I attended a 
talk by Katie last Saturday (2nd August) and I actually got to handle several 
of the meteorites she has recast. An odd and slightly disconcerting experience 
I thought. We got to chatting about possible future collaborations but it 
remains to be seen what that might actually turn out to mean.

I have always believed that it one of the purposes of art (among many other 
things) to challenge, shock and discomfort people and ideas by presenting the 
familiar in a new and unfamiliar way - to make people rethink their ideas and 
to challenge them to take stock of their old values. This particular project 
does seem to have raised a few eyebrows and rattled a few cages. I am mulling 
over the idea of asking Katie if I could present these items at Ensisheim one 
year.

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Minerals

National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
00 44 131 247 4283
p.david...@nms.ac.uk


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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson

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Dear Listoids

I make no claim to be an expert on contemporary art/artists, nevertheless I 
have worked with a number of artists over the last few years in my role as a 
mineral curator for the National Museums and this has allowed me to get a 
glimpse of the way different artists devise, plan and execute their works. I 
haven't had the pleasure of working with Katie, but I do know her and I have 
met her and we have had some long discussions about meteorites and she does 
feature meteorites and space in her work a lot. So I feel I ought to give my 
angle on this as well as try and explain her work on the Campo using her own 
words.

The original concept was formulated in around 2010/11 and the finished cast was 
exhibited in London in 2012. At about that time she gave an interview and the 
following quote is lifted directly from the published article: 

...The artist domesticates the cosmos' immensity: she gives the unfathomable a 
human scale, putting it within our reach. The cast meteorite will likely be 
placed on Exhibition Road (close to the Natural History Museum) in a discrete 
place, where people can sit around it and be able to touch it, she says. Most 
meteorites have been travelling around space for over four and a half billion 
years. They are older than the Earth and are the oldest objects on Earth. I 
like the idea of this vast cosmic history embedded inside them. Melting a 
meteorite and reforming it is a little bit like compressing and merging 
together these layers of time, history and space. Eventually I would like to 
send the meteorite back into Space, though that might not be for many years.

Well the many years have now past and Katie has send the recast meteorite into 
space.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Minerals

National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
00 44 131 247 4283
p.david...@nms.ac.uk

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Happy Birthday to me.

[Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list]

Anne

Bon anniversaire !

Although we haven't known each other for that long, I feel you are one of my 
oldest and most trusted friends. We haven't had the chance to speak for a 
while, but I will be sure to look you up in Tucson in 2015.

Many happy returns

Peter Davidson
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-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On 
Behalf Of Anne Black via Meteorite-list
Sent: 02 July 2014 19:25
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; cometeoritec...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Happy Birthday to me.

Hello everybody,

Yes, today is my birthday, and it is an important one, since I am changing 
decade. Yes, I am 70 today, scary but true.
So to celebrate my birthday, here is a very exceptional sale: anything you buy 
(and pay) today, you will pay only 70% of the price.
Well. since half of today is already gone, I'll give you 48 hours to 
take advantage of this 70% sale.  (Careful! I did not say 70% off, I did say 
you pay 70% of the price, so if something is priced at $100, you pay only $70. 
I am getting old but not senile!  ;-)  .)

As usual, first wrote, first served.
And tell me if you have any questions.
Thanks.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] travel to Ensisheim

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Hello Karen

Hope I am not too late. I was away on fieldwork in Devon and Cornwall. There 
are a number of options for getting to Ensisheim from Mulhouse. Firstly there 
is a local bus service from the station in Mulhouse to Ensishem. But it is very 
infrequent and only runs during the day, nothing after 5:00pm. Secondly you 
could check with any of the other dealers, delegates or visitors to see if they 
could give you a lift - it does sometimes work! Lastly there is the taxi which 
is most reliable and runs at all hours. However a taxi from Mulhouse to 
Ensisheim will cost around €60, or it did the last time I was there in 2011.

Hope this helps

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Minerals

National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
00 44 131 247 4283
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Subject: [meteorite-list] travel to Ensisheim

Hi All,

I'll be traveling from Frankfurt airport to Mulhouse by train. There is no 
train to Ensisheim. Does anybody know if there is a bus or so going from 
Mulhouse to Ensisheim? I guess, I could take a cab Š.

Thanks!

Karen



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[meteorite-list] Strathmore Meteorite Centenary

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Hello Listees (Repost)

2017 marks the Centenary of the Strathmore meteorite fall; Scotland's biggest. 
To commemorate this occasion, I am at the planning stage of an exhibition which 
will take place in the National Museums Scotland during that year. Outline 
permission had already been given and once I have major project on which I am 
currently extremely busy out of the way, I will be ramping up my efforts. In 
this modern digital, globalised age I am going to try a new approach in my 
search for ideas, suggestions or offers of information or objects which might 
help to extend the scope of the display.

At the moment, as well as a case featuring the re-uniting of the four main 
fragments of the Strathmore fall, I am looking at cases which will look at 
other Scottish and possibly UK/Irish meteorites, and also maybe taking a 
slightly different angle by looking at meteoritic or related material that has 
been used for other purposes which could include tools, jewellery and so on.

Therefore, I am sending this e-mail out to the list to attempt a sort of crowd 
sourcing exercise to see what comes up. Please be assured that, in terms of 
objects, I am not looking for permanent donations to the collections (though 
that would be nice) but loans. I will listen to all offers and all e-mails will 
be answered. There is no urgency at the moment, but I will be looking to start 
firming up on my ideas as soon as possible.

Regards

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Minerals

Department of Natural Sciences
National Museums Scotland
Chambers Street
Edinburgh
EH1 1JF
+44 131 247 4283
p.david...@nms.ac.uk



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Re: [meteorite-list] book about french meteorites / bad news

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Good Morning Pierre-Marie

This is sad news indeed, and very frustrating since it is due to a legal 
impediment and not a comment on the strength and quality of the research. Some 
of my colleagues have suggested self-publishing which is a good idea, but if 
you are prevented by your contract then you will still run into major legal 
problems. I assume there is no way to negotiate yourself out of this contract 
without incurring substantial costs - my daughter is a lawyer and I know from 
her the difficulty and cost of these types of negotiation. Is there any 
possibility of using a second or co-author? If your contract specifies you and 
you alone as author, then maybe a co-author can help to circumvent this 
problem. Have a talk with your own lawyer and see what they say.

Bon chance!

Peter Davidson
Senior Curator of Minerals

National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
00 44 131 247 4283
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Behalf Of Pelé Pierre-Marie via Meteorite-list
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Subject: [meteorite-list] book about french meteorites / bad news

Hello everybody,

my former editor doesn't believe to the potential of a new book about french 
meteorites so I decided to write a new one.

As it's on the same subject, my previous contract doesn't allow me to publish 
it so sadly, there won't be a new book about french meteorites from me unless I 
find a solution but chances are near zero.

Sorry about that.


Pierre-Marie Pelé
Meteor-Center
Météorites : achat - vente - expertise - expéditions - recherche 
http://www.meteor-center.com IMCA 3360 
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