: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
phenomenologicalIt this really a word? Sounds like a George Bush word.
DF
Matthias Bärmann wrote:
I agree. But using an expression (also a scientific one) in a
phenomenological manner we should take care to avoid a contradiction
And soul!
Jerry Flaherty
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From: Matthias Bärmann
To: Thaddeus Besedin ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Hello Thaddeus list
: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:03 AM
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Is there really any way of determining distinctions between
phenomenologicality and scientific knowledge, the ding an sich (noumenon)? We
are really speaking here of an epistemology
and the scientific dimension.
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phenomenologicalIt this really a word? Sounds like a George Bush word.
DF
Matthias Bärmann wrote:
I agree. But using an expression (also a scientific one) in a
phenomenological manner we should take care to avoid a contradiction (or
even
Eman and list,
when it comes to irons there is but one authority to refer to: Vaugn
Buchwald.
There is not the slightest doubt that the melted exterior of freshly fallen
iron meteorites is called a fusion crust.
In volume 1 page 49f. of his Handbook of Iron Meteorites Buchwald explains:
Cuts
Dr. Buhl;
Thank you very much for checking this subject with the absolute authority
on iron meteorites ( Buchwald ).Great job.
Best Regards;Herman Archer.
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Hello Listoids, Svend
--- Dr. Svend Buhl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:... I do not agree that the Glossary of
Geology of the American Geological Institute is a
sound reference for nomenclature and terminology of
meteorites.
GIST: For those that don't want to read the details, I
am asserting that even
The only problem here is that EMan has changed the definition of glassy
to make his argument work. Here is what Princeton says:
Adjective
S: (adj) glassy (resembling glass in smoothness and shininess and
slickness) the glassy surface of the lake; the pavement was...glassy with
water-
Please Elton, don't make me laugh. This is no debate, nor is the use of
this term weakly founded in the literature. It is as established and
pervasive throughout the meteoritical literature as any term. The
decades of use of the term fusion crust to describe the results of
ablation on iron
form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
Hello Listoids, Svend
--- Dr. Svend Buhl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:... I do not agree that the Glossary of
Geology of the American Geological Institute is a
sound reference for nomenclature and terminology of
meteorites.
GIST: For those that don't want to read
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:17:25 +0100, you wrote:
But it doesn't hit the point regarding meteorites. Glassy evokes the
impression of something shiny, very smooth, mirror-like. But as we all now
But the laymen use of the term isn't the scientific one. Glassy means
something that cooled quickly
I defined glass in a previous post specifically as
that which is formed from fuseing/melting silicates.
Which is closest to your thrid definition of glassy.
This isn't a discussion of commercial applications of
glass or philosophical ones. You missed the point of
this whole arguement that
On 7 Jan 2007 at 14:26, Darren Garrison wrote:
Glassy means
something that cooled quickly enough that it didn't have time to
crystalize and is instead, on the atomic level, an amorphous mess.
I think this is a stretch of the term 'glassy'. Unless there is somewhere a
reference to
this
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:17:25 +0100, you wrote:
But it doesn't hit the point regarding meteorites. Glassy evokes
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I defined glass in a previous post specifically as
that which is formed from fuseing/melting silicates.
Which is closest to your thrid definition of glassy.
This isn't a discussion of commercial applications of
glass
DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
On 7 Jan 2007 at 14:26, Darren Garrison wrote:
Glassy means
something that cooled quickly enough that it didn't have time to
crystalize and is instead, on the atomic level, an amorphous mess.
I think this is a stretch of the term 'glassy'. Unless
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:34:12 -0500, you wrote:
On 7 Jan 2007 at 14:26, Darren Garrison wrote:
Glassy means
something that cooled quickly enough that it didn't have time to
crystalize and is instead, on the atomic level, an amorphous mess.
I think this is a stretch of the term 'glassy'.
: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:17:25 +0100, you wrote:
But it doesn't hit the point regarding meteorites. Glassy evokes the
impression of something shiny, very smooth, mirror-like. But as we all now
But the laymen use of the term isn't
Hi All,
Very interresting discussion. However, I think we may be discussion the wrong
terms in
this debate. To wit;
Dictionary.com defines the two words, Fusion and Crust as:
Fusion:
1. the act or process of fusing; the state of being fused.
2. that which is fused; the result of fusing
Thanks for a cogent answer to my comments, Matthias.
We are in violent AGREEMENT. I fear now that I will
soon be the dead messenger beating the dead horse on
this simple issue.
I didn't select the term glassy for my argument. I
pointed out that it was quoted from the web site's
definition and
Thank you Darren. That clears some of this up for me.
Gary
On 7 Jan 2007 at 14:48, Darren Garrison wrote:
http://www.answers.com/glassr=67
Any of a large class of materials with highly variable mechanical and
optical properties that solidify from the molten state without
U What part of silicated irons may form a fusion
crust from my first post did you miss?
(GEEZEEE It feels like I am defending my thesis
all over again)
Regards,
Elton
--- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi List
It occurs to me that many silicated irons exist.
So, if it walks like a
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:56:00 -0700, you wrote:
phenomenological
It this really a word? Sounds like a George Bush word.
It seems perfectly cromulent to me.
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DOH!!
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