Dear Bernd List,
I think this is all about the difference between people who NEED to be THE
BEST in what they did, and people who simply WANT to ENJOY. This is actually
a matter of ambition and where one wants to place it. I do not mean that
there is no ambition in trying to enjoy (this is
Only for addvise my sale site now work under http://www.mcomemeteorite.it
Matteo
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Hi List,
I was disturbed to find a bunch of malarkey in the way of images produced by
Stan. I believe Marcin has a legitimate claim but to watch other dealers
try to take advantage is ridiculous. Marcin has seen a huge amount of NWA
869 (Not Official) and owns a piece of NWA 904. He reported
The one on the left is NWA 904 and right is NWA 869! Or was that the other
way around!?!?! ;-)
This was hard to decide which one is 869 but photo was small :). Anyway I'm
not saying that 904 is different from 969 becouse I have only one slice. But
Im sure that this specimen I have is different
I think the problem arises from the fact that sellers have sold a lot of
stuff under NWA 869. I have a couple of so called NWA 869s, and it's
hard to believe they all come from the same fall.
However, I can say that NWA 904, at least the slice I got from the
Hupes, does NOT look like NWA 869 in
Dear List, Soggy-Bottom Boys;
I am truly moved by your candor! Bernd made the point, and you have
successfully satirized the foolishness of a couple very non-important
issues.
I offer a strong heartfelt BRAVO to Bernd, Dave, the two Johns, and
would like to be on the dapper dan list and share
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY:
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Ok, I am sick of this. Want some meteorite trade
secrets and the inside scoup on some scams? If so dont
fall asleap while reading my manuscript here.
Adam keeps saying NWA869 is unofficial which is
correct but its been classified. Alan rubin classified
it twice as L4 and L5, matteo got an 3.8-6
Mr Freeman,
I certainly hope you aren't insinuating that your gophers are better
tasting than those here in the REAL Soggy Boggy Bottom Land. Our fire
roasted gophers have been rated number one and we have the statistics to
prove it. Just ask all of our returning customers. We're not trying
Dean,
most of us know the practices of the dealers and the nomads, I think.
There is no way to correct the problem, though. Those collecting NWAs
will have to live with it. On the other hand, we get nice material for a
low price.
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Bernhard Rendelius Rems
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Dean,
most of us know the practices of the dealers and the
nomads, I think.
There is no way to correct the problem, though.
Those collecting NWAs
will have to live with it. On the other hand, we get
nice material for a
low price.
I
A new page on our desert trips:
- Mauritanian Sahara expedition
- Temimichat and Tenoumer impact craters
- panoramic views of the craters
(4000x650 pixels)
- impactites and shocked granitic rocks
- story of the journey
Go to:
Wonderful website, too bad it comes from guys who say that I deal with Al
Queda!
that's right, the Pellisons have a court case in France saying that all
people who go to Morocco deal with terrorists. I buy my meteorites, so the
locals benifit, they hunt (fine too) but they seem to argue that
Hi List
Hope you guys realize that in the deep south, theres another gopher and
hit taint a rodent. Might want to take into account the southern vernacular
so folks don't misunderstand and go after youse for ettin a critter thats
on that thar fedral list.
Kentucki good ol'boy
On November 24,
Greetings List,
I am but a small time collector (200 specimens). However, I cherish my
small example of the evolution of the solar system. I am also an
astronomy educator. I always include meteorites in my lectors AND I am
always asked how do you know if it is really a meteorite? My answer:
http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html
Here is the direct link to this garbage from the Pellisons.
They are about the worst people to ever have touched a meteorite.
Read their crap and make your own decision.
Mike Farmer
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Interesting. But I thought that driving around the
desert that any money that you spent in Arab countries
was used to finance Al Quada and to destroy places
like america, australia and britain.
What are you guys doing supporting Arab economies
where terrorists are from anyway?
Why dont you guys
Hey Mike, you miss something, these guys do business without license !
That's fair competition, isn't it.
Michel FRANCO
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From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Terroism crap
This is from the pellison guys who says terrorists are
being supported by you meteorite buyers.
In court in France my own name was used in French
court along with my postings to this list as evidence
that I stated terrorists were being supported by our
meteorite buys.
Now I ask every member of
Larry, this is the problem I was getting at.
I will tell you the simple solution, buy the meteorite from the dealer who
had it classified, then there can be no error.
Mike Farmer
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Hello List, can someone explain to me in laymen's ( I am stupid ) what a CR
meteorite is?
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html
OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Finishing Up in 'Endurance' - sol 285-291,
November 23, 2004
Opportunity has now reached the furthest point east in its travels
inside Endurance Crater. Rover drivers have determined that there is
no safe path beyond the
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
November 18-24, 2004
The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:
o Small Gullied Crater (Released 18 November 2004)
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/11/18/
o Northern Meridiani
EXPENDABLE LAUNCH VEHICLES STATUS REPORT
November 24, 2004
George H. Diller
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
(321) 867-2468
[snip]
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LAUNCH VEHICLE: Delta II 7925
LAUNCH PAD: Pad 17-B Cape Canaveral Air Force Station
LAUNCH DATE: NET Jan. 8, 2005
LAUNCH WINDOW: 2:39:50 p.m.
http://www.meteorite.fr/en/classification/carbonaceous.htm
Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
Hello List, can someone explain to me in laymen's ( I am stupid ) what a CR
meteorite is?
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
http://www.space.com/astronotes/astronotes.html
Thirsty Bugs Found in Martian-like Desert
space.com
November 24, 2004
Rain falls in Chile's Atacama Desert every ten years or so --
not exactly prime real estate for living things. But a recent
survey there has found an underground community
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595107626,00.html
Sky's the limit for USU project -- an orbiting NASA telescope
By Joe Bauman
Deseret Morning News
November 24, 2004
Under a $40 million NASA contract, Utah State University is to
build an orbiting infrared telescope able to examine
Hi Larry, Mike and list. Yes, at first this sounds like good advice,
however this can lead to numerous problems as well. For instance I
obtained a beautiful large chunk of NWA 482 in a trade with you Mike,
and I know that numerous other dealers also have NWA 482 for sale. If we
were only to
FIRST: If you are humor challenged and/or do not want
to read a post unrelated to meteorites - DELETE NOW -
Thanksgiving humor:
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A young man named John received a parrot as a gift.
The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every
word out of the bird's mouth was rude,
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Hello Tom and List,
I've told you at least once before and I am telling you once again:
Please, stop imparting a feeling of inferiority to yourself and don't
keep telling the world that you are what you call stupid. Just think
of your falcons - they are proud, majestic creatures even though they
Hi Dean,
GREAT post - thanks for saying the obvious! I didn't
feel it was my place to step into a NWA debate to state
the obvious, myself, as, due to my health, I have NEVER
gone there.
I noted with great interest the LACK of response to
your post! Well, now doesn't that speak
There is no meteorite that is like NWA869. Its a very
brecciated meteorite. Look at this one for example:
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/ebay/nwa869two.jpg
And also look (again) at these two beauties of mine (from Dean):
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Oct_24.html
Cheers,
Bernd
Hi Larry All,
I read your post with some degree of sorrow, Larry, but many of us
figured all this out years ago as the flood began and the stories came out.
Some people I know won't collect any NWA material, others jump on
everything they can lay their hands on, due to the relatively
here ya go adam- granted the scale shows a discrepancy of 2g - but i
repolished the slice on my own. I bought it from you guys off of ebay - if i
gave a shit about your attorney i could look back through my email archives
and tell you what ebay auction number it was.
Yes !
it's one of the best !
http://www.austromet.com/collection/NWA869_ec01.jpg
http://www.austromet.com/collection/NWA869_slc01.jpg
It also has weird inclusions
http://www.austromet.com/collection/NWA869_235g_SMALL.jpg
http://www.austromet.com/collection/NWA869_235g_closeup_01.jpg
I
I got my 335 gram slice of NWA 869 from dean last year for $50.It has
everything you could want in an nwa 869 piece.Dean is the man when it
comes to this meteorite.For an ordinary chondrite, it just has so much to
offer a meteorite collecter.I have a 100 gram slice of NWA 904, and it
does not look
Stan is full of hot air. He is just sore because a dealer manufactured
classification of NWA 1839 was posted to the List and both NAU and UW are
aware of it. That's correct, the latest information posted to the List was
not even a working copy, just something put together to compete against NWA
Stan, the image you took proves absolutely nothing because we don't know
what the other meteorite is that it is being compared to. If it has a label
stating it is NWA 904 then it is NWA 904. One reason is that you can not
say for sure the other stone is NWA 869 because it has never been
Stan,
Have you had your materiel tested? Go back and talk to NAU about the pairing
status of NWA 1839 and NWA 3133. It is still up in air regardless of what
was put on the web-site because testing has not yet proved a pairing. There
are some differences between the two so more testing is
wow what language
From: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Adam's bullshit re nwa 904
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:03:37 +
here ya go adam- granted the scale shows a discrepancy of 2g - but i
repolished the slice on my own. I bought it
I agree, keep the language civil even if you can't seem to get over it.
I think we are all tired of this thread so it is time to sew it shut and
bury it!
Greg
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Interesting.
This is a picture of an 1.5g slice I have in my collection:
http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/viennametcoll/711_nwa_1839?full=
1
Very strange meteorite indeed...
Bernhard
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Well that's what the Hupes are doing, trying to get there name in perpetuity
on every piece, owning the market on it, create distrust on the buyers part.
That model works great Mike until you sell your first large lot to someone
who may want to resell or trade some...at which point your
Hello John, Larry, Mike, Michael, List,
I want to respond to John's point of view on Mike's dramatic suggestion that we
acquire NWA's only from the dealer that classified it.
Mike - good post. My only wincing is that the dealer doesn't classify it. A
Met Soc approved researcher does mi
Have you had your materiel tested?
yes, the material i am offering currently IS nwa 1839 part of the original
mass that was studied by NAU
Go back and talk to NAU about the pairing
status of NWA 1839 and NWA 3133.
I dont need to talk to the researchers again - they are publically saying
that
Just wanted to wish all of my fellow American list
members a Happy and safe Thanksgiving. Let`s all try
to put our differences away for awhile and relax and
enjoy this time of year with family and friends!!!
Dave
Stan,
If you have something official please present it for consideration. The
official weight of NWA 1839 is 122 grams. Regardless of what a Moroccan may
tell you about additional stones, something of this magnitude has to be
tested. If more weight is being claimed for NWA 1839 it should be
If you have something official please present it for consideration.
I dont need to wait till the reclassifcation is published to consider it.
NAU is now saying publically that nwa 3133 and 1389 are the same meteorite -
that is good enough for me. if you rather wait till after something is
I appologize for the language I used.
having your brother tell me I'm fraudulently describing a meteorite as nwa
904 when i bought it from you guys in the first place really ticked me off.
I'm sure you can udnerstand that.
stan
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To: McomeMeteorite Meteorite
Yes, you are right, I should clarify that, to mean that you should find out
who had the meteorite classified and if the piece you are buying came from
that person and piece, or if it came from a pairing.
Certainly other dealers and collectors get the meteorites legitimately and I
would never
I apologize for the language I used.
Thank you, Stan - Very much appreciated !!!
Getting ticked off is easy, offering an apology
is much more difficult.
Best regards,
Bernd
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Michael, I do believe that Michael Cottingham and myself were the first
Americans to buy in Morocco and announce it when we got home. We bought
everything, even though you say that Jim Strope and I never claimed to have
found anything in the early days.
Michael, Jim Strope and I never found
Yes, I really didnt mean it in that way, like I just posted, sorry for the
confusion, of course people sell lots to other dealers to resale, but they
need to keep accurate documentation perhaps.
Mike
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To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL
Hi List members,
everywhere!
I know Germany or other countries are not celebrating Thanksgiving,
neverless, we all can give thanks anytime of the year!
I am thankful for having this list, even though it is quite time consuming
at times and full of unrelated, private posts that everyone seems to
I am not sure what is happening on the list and the meteorite world, but
everyone needs to take a chill pill.
I will be in Paris this weekend, and Morocco thereafter,
out in the desert on a meteorite hunt, for the next week. Something has
been found that is spectacular, I have some sitting on
Hi Doug and thanks for the interesting idea. I suppose that could work
if every dealer kept perfect records of every piece, slice, part slice,
and part, part slice that they ever bought or sold. The question then
would be, who would be the Meteorite Auditors to track down the few
offending
http://www.bayjournal.com/article.cfm?article=2413
Seismic blasts aim to get 'hole' story of Bay's creation
By Joanne Kimberlin
Virginian-Pilot
November 2004
Crickets thrummed in the dark mist. A harvest moon glowed orange in the
heavens. The earth moved.
Thirty-five times.
It shuddered
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=1314mode=threadorder=0thold=0
Martian Retrospective
Summary (Nov 24, 2004): As the rovers try to survive the dead of martian
winter, what do readers want to know about their first nine-months on
the red planet?
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=1314mode=threadorder=0thold=0
MP wants to have more answers on sonic boom
EDWARD FOSS
EDP24 (United Kingdom)
24 November 2004
A Norfolk MP has pledged to seek more answers about the recent sonic
boom above the
I have some very rare material in the works right now, should be ready for
sale in two weeks. Meteorites which type collectors MUST have.
So count your pennies now, save your Christmas money, I will have some
meteorites for sale as soon as I get the final data.
Michael Farmer
Hi Dave,
The most reasonable post I have seen in weeks.
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!
-Walter
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From: Dave Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject:
IF, and that is a big IF, you believe it is real
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2288601328rd=1
But, before you bid, be sure to compare it to the real thing...
http://209.238.151.128/nwa998.htm
Best Wishes to all for a great
Greetings list,
Thank you all for the insightful responses. I guess in the back of my
mind I always new that this type of problem was certain to surface. Of
all the responses, I like best Doug's suggestion for aMetSoc approved
researcher's card. I hope something is done so that this
Dear list members,
For those of you who like new meteorites, or at least, newly classified
ones not yet offered, I would like to announce another beautiful chondrite I
just received classification on. It is NWA 2377 and is simply gorgeous. It
has nice wall-to-wall chondrules and an occasional
In the thread Meteorite Photographed Hitting The
Earth in Australia? at:
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2004-November/146190.html
,
Mike Groetz asked:
Good Afternoon- If someone finds a link to
the photo - would you please post it?
For whatever a person might think it is
I think this is a load of crap, the piece is obviously very small, and
falling at a very low angle. There is no possible way a meteorite that small
could come down at that angle, it would have reached terminal velocity and
should be falling strait down.
Am I correct?
Mike Farmer
- Original
May you all be surrounded by good people and good food tomorrow. Take care
driving also. Cheers
Kirk...
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You're right. It would have been falling nearly vertically, subject only to
some drift from the wind. If it had still been traveling at 30,000 mph as
the article suggests, it would have been way bigger; a huge fireball, sonic
booms, all sorts of stuff like that which would hardly have gone
Hello Bernd and list. I am just curious about CR's because I read something
about them having metal inside the chondrules. I was wondering if CR's were
the only meteorite with this feature. I am not implying my meteorite is a
CR, but I had thought it was weird because the white inclusions were
Hello list,
How would you explain this inclusion? In the center of the picture at the
link below is a white inclusion with a gray inclusion inside. The gray
inclusion has a dark thin outline. Pretty weird.
http://www.geocities.com/chepper4/MVC-013F.JPG
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier
IMCA 6168
Tom, interesting, lookes like a deformed chondrule, shock melted maybe?
Mike
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From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:23 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Explain this inclusion
Hello list,
How would you
Tom, that is a common trait of CR meteorites, want to see, check these
babies out. http://www.meteoriteguy.com/NWA801.htm
As you can see in many of the pieces, the actual chondrules are metal rich,
so this must have formed in a very interesting way. Imagine how the cloud
must have looked with
Hi EveryoneWe just wanted to wish everyone a happy thanksgiving and
a safe Holiday! Special thanks to Michael Blood for sharing his
thanksgiving parrot joke ;-)
Cheers
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I believe CR chondrites have a relatively high O2 concentration and combined
with the metal rich aspect, would the brownish orange coloration be due to
oxidation?
-Walter
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