On July 18, 2006 12:08 PM, Ryan King wrote:
On Jul 17, 2006, at 11:24 PM, Ben Buchanan wrote:
The classic problem example would be a page stating a price
of $50.
Is that Australian dollars? US dollars? Monopoly money? :)
So anyway I'm following The Process
Hello microformateers,
I need a perl library for parsing/creating microformats. I tried to
find references to such a beast on CPAN and the microformats.org
website, without much success. Before I take the chance on re-
inventing the wheel, is anyone working on such a beast?
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Mark Norman
Hi all,
Wow, lots of discussion :)
I'll respond to a few points in one, hope that's ok with everyone.
1)
Language/currency
- Not all countries have a single currency in circulation
- Not all countries have a single language in use
- Not all speakers of a specific language will use a specific
Hello Mark.
I'm working towards releasing some Microformats::* modules shortly. I
have my Pause account on CPAN set up so the first lot of modules should
hopefully be imminent.
Please don't hesitate to contact me off-list if you have any thoughts or
specific requirements.
Best wishes,
[Gack. Sorry about the name mixup, twitchy email setting. Reposted to
clarify who's talking.]
Hi all,
Wow, lots of discussion :)
I'll respond to a few points in one, hope that's ok with everyone.
1)
Language/currency
- Not all countries have a single currency in circulation
- Not all
On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Ben Buchanan wrote:
So, the problem we're trying to solve is how to have pages *define*
the
currency of the prices presented. Implication and guesses are too
open for
error, with high potential consequences.
Okay, that looks to me more like a simple, clear
Ryan King wrote:
I added text/html back to the accepted list and changed the behavior to
'reject', rather than 'discard'.
While I do think it's generally a better idea to not send HTML emails (I
really hate those custom icon and emoticon ads), why reject those
emails? It's possible that
On 19 Jul 2006, at 15:20, Paul Bryson wrote:
Ryan King wrote:
I added text/html back to the accepted list and changed the
behavior to 'reject', rather than 'discard'.
While I do think it's generally a better idea to not send HTML
emails (I really hate those custom icon and emoticon ads),
http://cafe.elharo.com/xml/must-ignore-vs-microformats
A friend of mine showed me this today. Macroformats, over Microformats.
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On 19 Jul 2006, at 17:14, Jesse Rodgers wrote:
On 7/19/06, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://cafe.elharo.com/xml/must-ignore-vs-microformats
A friend of mine showed me this today. Macroformats, over
Microformats.
I always thought microformats was semantics for everyone and
On 7/19/06 7:45 AM, Drew McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 19 Jul 2006, at 15:20, Paul Bryson wrote:
Ryan King wrote:
I added text/html back to the accepted list and changed the
behavior to 'reject', rather than 'discard'.
While I do think it's generally a better idea to not send HTML
Thanks for the response, and the advice.
Frances
Tantek Çelik wrote:
On 7/19/06 8:37 AM, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://cafe.elharo.com/xml/must-ignore-vs-microformats
A friend of mine showed me this today. Macroformats, over Microformats.
The article is
On 19 Jul 2006, at 18:55, Tantek Çelik wrote:
On 7/19/06 10:34 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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wrote:
(I even have a PHP parser written that makes parsing Microformats and
other kinds of semantic HTML dead easy... coming to you via LGPL
eventually... once I improve the
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Ganz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I got the page kicked off by capturing a few examples in the wild and
some of the brainstorming that took place here on the list.
Oddly, you seem to have overlooked my comments.
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Andy Mabbett
Say NO! to
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Consider a defunct currency
Example:
http://charlesdickenspage.com/works.html
a novel cost 31 shillings in 1836, average worker earned 6 to 20
shillings per week) but a monthly installment, 32 pages with
On Jul 19, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Consider a defunct currency
Example:
http://charlesdickenspage.com/works.html
a novel cost 31 shillings in 1836, average worker earned 6
to 20
How about using a timestamp/effective date?
If enabling exchange rate and value-over-time calculations
is a goal for a currency uf, I think we'll find them
essential.
-ml
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy
Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On 7/19/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah ha!
http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-6095705.html
A rather self-serving argument. Of course Google wants all the
intelligence in search engines.
Bruce
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On Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:34 Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Ganz
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I got the page kicked off by capturing a few examples in the
wild and
some of the brainstorming that took place here on the list.
Oddly, you seem to have overlooked my
On Jul 19, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Scott
Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Then Consider providing multiple translations of one price in
different amounts...
How does considering this help us define the currency of the prices
presented? It looks
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
[1] how would one proposed to mark up the string 6 to 20 shillings
per week so that both values could be addressed with the appropriate
measurement unit?
Something like:
currency type=GBP unit=shilling
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Something like:
currency type=GBP unit=shilling date=18606/shilling to
currency type=GBP unit=shilling date=186020/shilling
shillings
Ack! That should be:
currency type=GBP unit=shilling
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris
Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted
We deal with millions of Web masters who can't configure a server,
can't write HTML.
Some commercial providers say, 'I'm the
leader. Why should I standardize?'
All Google's pages validate of course...
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Andy Mabbett
Scott,
I wasn't aware that we had collectively settled on a
problem definition or had moved on to solving anything. If
I've missed the cutoff, please consider my comments and
suggestions as late brainstorming.
I for one am interested in how to clearly mark up 6
shillings or 5 dollars when the
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan
King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The javascript creators have been updated, please let me know if you
see any problems.
Your:
p style=font-size: 80%;
is an accessibility no-no: don't reduce fonts size below 100%.
Better still make the advert optional, or
Michael,
I think it has not yet been shown by sufficient research that a currency at
this *historical* point in time is a problem worthy of a solving with a
microformat.
Whether or not there is any specific interest on any of our parts to clearly
mark something up, there needs to be research
On 7/19/06 3:33 PM, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Something like:
currency type=GBP unit=shilling date=18606/shilling to
currency type=GBP unit=shilling date=186020/shilling
shillings
Ack!
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I think it has not yet been shown by sufficient research that a
currency at this *historical* point in time is a problem worthy of a
solving with a microformat.
Google finds:
about 58,500 for worth in modern terms.
Then Consider providing multiple translations of one price in
different amounts...
How does considering this help us define the currency of the prices
presented? It looks like we just strayed from marking up currency to
marking up exchange rates.
You're right, it doesn't help. Defining the
It looks like my previous message was lost, so I repeat it again:
Hi Ryan,
I've noticed couple of small issues:
1. hCard Creator: AIM screenname YIM screenname overlap each other in Safari
2. hCalendar Creator: dtend has fromat 2006620, I think should be 20060620
3. hReview Creator: word date*
Andy, Dmitry,
Thanks VERY MUCH for this feedback, this is exactly the kind of bugs,
suggested fixes, and feature requests that are helpful.
I have just did a tiny bit of references/relatedpages cleanup on hCard and
hCalendar and have linked to a couple of pages on the wiki which can be used
to
On 7/19/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah ha!
http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-6095705.html
A rather self-serving argument. Of course Google wants all the
intelligence in search engines.
I do think his point about misuse by people trying to spam search engines is
a
Hi Tantek,
I've added my bugs to the pages and also created page for hReview feedback:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview-creator-feedback
and add there my bugs as well.
Cheers,
Dmitry
On 20/07/06, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy, Dmitry,
Thanks VERY MUCH for this feedback,
On 7/19/06 6:07 PM, Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've added my bugs to the pages and also created page for hReview
feedback:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview-creator-feedback
and add there my bugs as well. Cheers
Thanks very much Dmitry!
Tantek
On Jul 19, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Michael Leikam wrote:
I wasn't aware that we had collectively settled on a
problem definition or had moved on to solving anything. If
I've missed the cutoff, please consider my comments and
suggestions as late brainstorming.
I for one am interested in how to
On Jul 19, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
On 7/19/06 10:34 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux
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wrote:
One good thing about XML, IMO, is that for certain simple markups
based on XML, it's easier for a beginner-level or intermediate-level
developer to write a parser for it (as
--- Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it has not yet been shown by sufficient research
that a currency at
this *historical* point in time is a problem worthy of a
solving with a microformat.
Absolutely. A lot more work needs to be done. To take
Ben's original statement of the
Absolutely; but that's what will keep them in business.
It's like a doctor saying that the immune system is a bad thing;
helloou! Have we cured the common cold yet? Well, seems to me a good
idea to keep making the Dymatap.
;)
On 7/19/06, Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/19/06, Chris
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