Re: [uf-discuss] How's my hReview?

2006-08-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes It is not a valid review yet, you are missing a few things. [...] B) create an outer div container. You have a class=photo which is another hReview property - assuming you are actually intending that to be part of the hReview,

Re: [uf-discuss] OpenSearch

2006-08-30 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
Currently I use an hAtom+XOXO mix for search results on my pages, but I have found that hAtom works sufficently for most -- I just wasn't sure if this was a 'proper' use of it... but I figure it probably is since you can have RSS for search too... -- Singpolyma On 8/30/06, David Janes [EMAIL

[uf-discuss] geo microformat - specification and usage

2006-08-30 Thread Alex Mayrhofer
Hi, i'm investigating the use of geo on one of my sites, and i have two open questions with regards to this: 1) i didn't find what reference system the geo microformat should use. Although i suppose it is WGS84, neither the original vCard specs nor the microformats explicitely mention this.

[uf-discuss] hJob

2006-08-30 Thread Don Park
Hi all, Given recent moves in the job listing by bloggers, I think 'hJob' and syndication of job data might be a nice near-term topic for discussion. Thoughts? Links to alternate proposals? Don Park ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] OpenSearch

2006-08-30 Thread Edward Summers
On Aug 30, 2006, at 9:36 AM, David Janes wrote: The reason I think that (2) is needed is: (a) profiles are not manditory, so we can't depend on their presence (b) the search-results consumer, knowing that there is hAtom search results, may want not to read the URL at all (prefering a proxy to

Re: [uf-discuss] OpenSearch

2006-08-30 Thread Edward Summers
On Aug 30, 2006, at 9:52 AM, David Janes wrote: I'm not sure how to be clearer: my first message in this thread suggests in point (2) add a single-field extension to OpenSearch XML; my second message says adding a MIME type is not the solution [1]. OK, so an extension to OpenSearch since

Re: [uf-discuss] How's my hReview?

2006-08-30 Thread David Osolkowski
On 8/30/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: finnaly, the reviewer hCard is also incorrect: p id=creditspan class=reviewer vcard fnAndy Mabbett/spanbr span class=dtreviewed title=200603March 2006/span/p you need to nest the class=fn inside the class=vcard p id=credit class=reviewer

Re: [uf-discuss] OpenSearch

2006-08-30 Thread Scott Reynen
On Aug 29, 2006, at 11:28 PM, David Janes wrote: (2) one could add an extra field to the OpenSearch XML (a description file about how your results are returned) indicating that the file is hAtom There are two problems here, and I think we should avoid approaching both at once. Just as a

Re: [uf-discuss] OpenSearch

2006-08-30 Thread Edward Summers
more light: http://wiki.unto.net/OpenSearch_and_microformats //Ed ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] hJob

2006-08-30 Thread Scott Reynen
On Aug 30, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Don Park wrote: Given recent moves in the job listing by bloggers, I think 'hJob' and syndication of job data might be a nice near-term topic for discussion. Thoughts? Links to alternate proposals? http://microformats.org/wiki/job-listing-examples

Re: [uf-discuss] hJob

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Messina
I was going to suggest the same thing, so it's good to see this work already underway. My post is a bit dramatic, but what's important about the current research on this is that it could be used by either applicant *or* job provider.

RE: [uf-discuss] OpenSearch

2006-08-30 Thread Ted Drake
I'm not sure if I understand the theory behind the twiki of OpenSearch and Microformats. Are you suggesting I modify the opensearch.xml file to include microformat values, so that when A9 and other search engines gather the content, they can insert the microformat into their results? A9 does not

Re: [uf-discuss] hJob

2006-08-30 Thread Scott Reynen
On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Chris Messina wrote: Just as I can post my own hResume, being able to post jobs descriptions that I think I'd be good at is an equally important design goal for this mF. I also think that it's design, perhaps a slight break with convention, should creatively tackle

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation: next steps?

2006-08-30 Thread Michael McCracken
Bruce, thanks for clearing that up. On 8/29/06, Bruce D'Arcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, On 8/29/06, Michael McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you just mean the ability to mark up a relation between two citation items? For instance, if BibTeX had a convention of things like this:

Re: [uf-discuss] How's my hReview?

2006-08-30 Thread Ryan King
On Aug 30, 2006, at 12:36 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I suppose div class=hreview item isn't allowed? http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#nesting-properties -ryan ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

[uf-discuss] Re: hJob

2006-08-30 Thread Chris Messina
I agree with both of you; and I'm also a big supporter of codifying existing practices. At the same time, and this may be anathema to the discussion, but the design of a data format inherently reveals the underlying politics and biases of the designers. I'm only suggesting that we make sure that

RE: [uf-discuss] Re: hJob

2006-08-30 Thread Don Park
A question, perhaps: could we design hJob such that it could form a dovetail joint of sorts with hResume? That is, with any given hResume or hJob could I find a corresponding set of values that might match the original query as expressed in either format? Perhaps. :-) I tend to favor emergent

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation: next steps?

2006-08-30 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On 8/30/06, Michael McCracken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [... snip ...] I'm not convinced that a formalized Dublin Core microformat class set is necessary for a good citation microformat, and I do think it'd be a distraction to getting the main goal completed. A reasonable argument; I have no

Re: [uf-discuss] vcard fn for name in A. B. Smith format

2006-08-30 Thread Drew McLellan
On 30 Aug 2006, at 13:29, Graham Higgins wrote: On 29 Aug 2006, at 15:42, Brian S wrote: you shouldn't make assumptions about what the 'A.' and 'B.' mean... i did in my example (otherwise it would have been a pretty boring reply). There is a service which attempts at guessing the N

Re: [uf-discuss] OpenSearch

2006-08-30 Thread Scott Reynen
On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Ted Drake wrote: This is a sample product result from the search result page. Where would the OpenSearch/hAtom microformats be added? For the results section, you'd just be adding hAtom to the results, which someone more involved with hAtom would probably

[uf-discuss] hCard vs. vcf

2006-08-30 Thread Jeremy Flint
I am looking for some ammunition on making the case for using hCard over a standard .vcf file exported from Outlook for a static contact listing that will likely not change anytime in the future. -- jeremy flint www.jeremyflint.com www.kineticcom.com

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard vs. vcf

2006-08-30 Thread brian suda
Once you have the page marked-up you can easily convert it to ANY format, not just vCards. You can also submit the page to sources like kicthen.technorati.com and aggregate the data. It can more-easily be mashed-up with other data. -brian Jeremy Flint wrote: Well, we ended up not using a

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation: next steps?

2006-08-30 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 8/30/06 11:29 AM, Bruce D'Arcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for using hCalendar, I think that would be great to mark up conferences, meetings, etc, in citations, but I don't think a citation microformat should *require* it. According to the hcard-authoring wiki page, a minimal hCalendar

Re: [uf-discuss] hJob

2006-08-30 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 30 août 06 à 22:21, Don Park a écrit : Given recent moves in the job listing by bloggers, I think 'hJob' and syndication of job data might be a nice near-term topic for discussion. Thoughts? Links to alternate proposals? For inspiration http://vocab.org/bio/0.1/

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation: next steps?

2006-08-30 Thread Timothy Gambell
On Aug 30, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Michael McCracken wrote: I'm not convinced that a formalized Dublin Core microformat class set is necessary for a good citation microformat, and I do think it'd be a distraction to getting the main goal completed. A modular system with hDC broken out does seem a

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation: next steps?

2006-08-30 Thread Michael McCracken
On 8/30/06, Bruce D'Arcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/30/06, Timothy Gambell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, BibTeX's author field implies the medium of the cited work (if it has an author, it must be text). This makes it difficult to reuse terminology: what if I'm talking about