[uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Michael MD
Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? Some information (such as data used for street maps) would obviously have to be as accurate as possible but there would be other cases where it would be useful to just be able specify that something is in a certain city and easily

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Michael MD
There are several problems with this: * Service providers usually require you to pay before you can contact someone you've found or vice versa. Such sites usually allow you to browse user profiles for free, but expect you to pay to contact anyone so I think there is probably a need for a way to

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? Yes - the number of decimal places given. -- Andy Mabbett Say NO! to compulsory ID Cards: http://www.no2id.net/ Free Our Data:

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Michael MD wrote: There are several problems with this: * Service providers usually require you to pay before you can contact someone you've found or vice versa. Such sites usually allow you to browse user profiles for free, but expect you to pay to contact anyone so I think there is probably

Re: [uf-discuss] The trouble with titles (in hAtom)

2006-10-02 Thread David Janes
Fixed. Y'all can try it by pasting in the text here [1]. For those not heads down in hAtom, the tricky parts in the sample below are: - markup inside the Q are supposed to be ignored wrt. hAtom elements - missing entry-title then should trigger the logic outlined below - multiple entry-content

Re: [uf-discuss] copy-and-paste metadata prior art?

2006-10-02 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On 10/2/06, John Allsopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an application I developed in 1994-6, Palimpsest you could cut and paste the links (I called them cross references) and annotations, which had rich meta data in them. You could tag links and annotations with labels, links and annotations had

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Michael MD
There are formats being discussed for marking up currency. hListing has the ability to markup prices, although I think it should be free to contact someone. It would be if we had the ability to list profiles on our own sites (where we wouldn't be restricted by the contact info we can

Re: [uf-discuss] Technorati.com/events and Outlook

2006-10-02 Thread brian suda
Jeremy Flint wrote: What is the status of hCal events working in Outlook (testing in 2003) when fed through the feeds.technorati.com/events url? Is it something that is do-able or is it a bug in the code at Technorati? I have noticed that when I use Tails in Firefox, the events work in

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes There are formats being discussed for marking up currency. Here: http://microformats.org/wiki/currency -- Andy Mabbett Say NO! to compulsory ID Cards: http://www.no2id.net/ Free Our

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
I have had a really hard time finding currency examples on the Web using something else/more than the price class name to qualify currency amounts (I wish there was a search engine for HTML source code). Actually, I haven't found any (only one is documented on the

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guillaume Lebleu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I have had a really hard time finding currency examples on the Web using something else/more than the price class name to qualify currency amounts How much data was marked up with dtstart, fn or entry-content as a class

Re: [uf-discuss] copy-and-paste metadata prior art?

2006-10-02 Thread Colin Barrett
On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:04 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: indeed, imagine next-generation desktop functionality where one could paste metadata long with content Mac OS X does that right now, actually. Which is (of course) the whole idea behind the patent ;)

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Finally (from me, for now), I've had an e-mail from someone wanting to comment on the species proposal, saying: I've just tried creating an account on the microformats site so that I can join in with the

Re: [uf-discuss] Process to handle decentralized creation of new microformats?

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Semantic XHTML has been widely adopted by the web design and development community. Really? Is that widely according to your 80/20 measure? As was discussed very early in the history of microformats, if there are hundreds of

Re: [uf-discuss] The trouble with titles (in hAtom)

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - markup inside the Q are supposed to be ignored wrt. hAtom elements Why is that? -- Andy Mabbett Say NO! to compulsory ID Cards: http://www.no2id.net/ Free Our Data:

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Andrew Turner
Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? Yes - the number of decimal places given. The question seems a little fuzzy. I assume Michael meant accuracy of the coordinates, so

[uf-discuss] existing currency formats: XBRL

2006-10-02 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
I took a look at the semantics used by XBRL for currency amounts (a standard for corporate financial reporting pushed among others by the SEC). I have made an adaptation of them in semantic XHTML: http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-formats#XBRL (without incorporating existing thoughts on

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: species

2006-10-02 Thread admin Yellowikis
I'd like to see this microformat integrated into hCard. (I've just been meeting lots of VCs recently) Paul On 10/1/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes A center of a city may be fairly accurate, with the bounds of the city specified as a radius. Consider Birmingham, England, whose centre is far from being equidistant to all points on its boundary - it's in Ladywood on this

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Chris Casciano
On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:32 AM, Karl Dubost wrote: It is irrelevant what some sites may do. What is relevant is what sites *actually* do. Do you have any other examples? Go explore sites in other languages than English, then gather the results, and you might understand what sites are

Re: [uf-discuss] Pingeratti - multiple submissions

2006-10-02 Thread Ryan King
On Sep 30, 2006, at 12:39 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Currently no. Why not just write a script that runs on your side and programmatically pings the relevant URLs? Firstly, I don't programme. I'm sorry, I tend to assume that

[uf-discuss] Microformats and SIOC

2006-10-02 Thread John Breslin
Hi all - For those involved in cite-rel or interested in the area of distributed conversations (and Eran's cool distributed social anything ideas!), I have written a few ideas about how SIOC [2] relates to Microformats and vice versa on my blog [1]... [1]

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries, counties, towns, cities, gardens, parks, nature reserves, and industrial estates are

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Kevin Marks
Andy, you're missing the point. A bare lat-long pair is not always helpful. If that's all you have, you can't really display a useful map. The existing mapping tools tend to use product-specific ways of specifying the degree of zoom needed, to distinguish between the right side of my desk,

Re: [uf-discuss] Pingeratti - multiple submissions

2006-10-02 Thread Marko Mrdjenovic
Ryan King wrote: As far as I know, you're the first person who's asked for this functionality. I wouldn't mind building it into pingerati if and when we see some more demand. Until then, it shouldn't be too difficult to build a tool which will take care of this. Until then you're all very

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

2006-10-02 Thread Ryan King
On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Finally (from me, for now), I've had an e-mail from someone wanting to comment on the species proposal, saying: I've just tried creating an account on the

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Ryan King
On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Michael MD wrote: Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? I suspect you actually mean 'precision' not 'accuracy', no? ... I don't think the character of the resource being described is enough. What do you mean by 'character of the

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries, counties, towns, cities, gardens, parks, nature reserves, and industrial estates are

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Kevin Marks
On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Michael MD wrote: Not really, if it's a large city... Consider Birmingham, England, whose centre is far from being equidistant to all points on its boundary - it's in Ladywood on this map: http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/wards GeoRSS uses a radius element,

RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats and SIOC

2006-10-02 Thread Eran
Hi John, Very interesting post, I'm glad to see this topic actively pursued. Here's my overly details reply - http://hellonline.com/blog/?p=91 (I'm trying to avoid doing my homework :) I'm pretty sure it's also properly marked up using cite-rel... Regards, Eran. -Original Message-

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Kevin Marks
On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Kevin Marks wrote: On Oct 2, 2006, at 3:16 PM, Chris Casciano wrote: You could outline any territory as a series of geos if the need ever arose. But I'm still not clear how we've gotten here. If I want to say something is in Ireland, or Mexico City or somewhere

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-02 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Scott, Please ignore my last post on the subject. As Andy M. pointed to me in another thread, I took an extreme interpretation of the process. Mea culpa. And sorry in advance for this long post. On the subject of what is useful to do now with currency, I agree with you that limiting the

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Michael MD
Is there a way to specify the accuracy of latitude/longitude? I suspect you actually mean 'precision' not 'accuracy', no? yes pecision is probably closer to what I meant I don't think the character of the resource being described is enough. What do you mean by 'character of the

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

2006-10-02 Thread Scott Reynen
On Oct 2, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I have had a really hard time finding currency examples on the Web using something else/more than the price class name to qualify currency amounts How much data was marked up with dtstart, fn or entry-content as a class name, before

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-02 Thread Ryan King
On Oct 2, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Michael MD wrote: Use adr [http://microformats.org/wiki/adr], or hcard [mfwhttp:// microformats.org/wiki/hcard]. and yes I will use those too, where appropriate.. but to get an idea of how far something is from something else I would need to use lat/long

Re: History Microformat (was Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?)

2006-10-02 Thread Kevin Marks
On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Jeremy Boggs wrote: i would be very interested in helping to explore a history microformat. In my spare time, I've been collecting examples of history timelines, after discussions a few months ago on this list about the inability of using hCalendar to mark up