Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Who can edit the sign-on page? I can. I've updated it to read: Your user name (it must be a WikiWord) Thank you. but I'm not sure that WikiWord will mean anything, to most people. Why not: Your username (must be

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Oct 2, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Andy, you're missing the point. No, I'm not. If If That's not a point, that's a conditional

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes you don't need to have lat/long to get distance. There are plenty of services for translating human readable addresses into machine readable values. But with much less accuracy than lat/ long -- Andy Mabbett Say

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 10/1/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think $ is a unit of measuring currency, and barrel is a unit of measuring oil, which in this case is the product the currency references. I disagree. There are plenty of other things that can be sold by the barrel, and I doubt there are

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Colin Barrett
On Oct 2, 2006, at 10:13 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Oct 2, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Andy, you're missing the point. No, I'm not. If

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

2006-10-03 Thread Colin Barrett
On Oct 2, 2006, at 10:09 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Who can edit the sign-on page? I can. I've updated it to read: Your user name (it must be a WikiWord) Thank you. but I'm not sure that WikiWord will mean anything, to

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

2006-10-03 Thread Colin Barrett
On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:59 PM, brian suda wrote: As for creating accounts. You UserName has to be CamelCase[1], there should be a note about it on the sign-up page, it is on the FAQs, *Any Suggestions about how to make it more visible* are certainly welcome? Mine isn't. It's Colin_Barrett. Is

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Scott Reynen
On Oct 3, 2006, at 4:16 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote: I think it's fairly clear that $ is a unit of currency, 'barrel' is a measure of volume, and $/barrel is a measure of currency/volume in its own right, similar to other composite measures like m.p.h. Sure we can conceptualize it like that, but

[uf-discuss] hAlias vs hCard

2006-10-03 Thread Jason Jobe
Hello, I'm new to the list and just learning about microformats. Cool stuff. My question / proposal is this. Is there and should there be something I will refer to as an alias (hAlias)? The motivation to have and offer one's alias is to maintain a greater level of privacy. Suppose I want

Re: [uf-discuss] hAlias vs hCard

2006-10-03 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Jason Jobe wrote: Hello, I'm new to the list and just learning about microformats. Cool stuff. My question / proposal is this. Please read the process http://microformats.org/wiki/process Is there and should there be something I will refer to as an alias (hAlias)? No. The motivation to

Re: [uf-discuss] hAlias vs hCard

2006-10-03 Thread Scott Reynen
On Oct 3, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: The motivation to have and offer one's alias is to maintain a greater level of privacy. Suppose I want to give someone a way to contact me without divulging all my vital (more permanent and personal) attributes. Sort of a disposable email,

Re: [uf-discuss] hAlias vs hCard

2006-10-03 Thread Frances Berriman
On 10/3/06, Jason Jobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Hi Jason :) I'm new to the list and just learning about microformats. Cool stuff. My question / proposal is this. Is there and should there be something I will refer to as an alias (hAlias)? The motivation to have and offer one's alias

Re: [uf-discuss] hAlias vs hCard

2006-10-03 Thread Frances Berriman
On 10/3/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 3, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: The motivation to have and offer one's alias is to maintain a greater level of privacy. Suppose I want to give someone a way to contact me without divulging all my vital (more permanent and

Re: [uf-discuss] hAlias vs hCard

2006-10-03 Thread Frances Berriman
On 10/3/06, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure. I didn't say you had to connect them in any way :P I was just thinking from a maintenance of information point of view. Ugh. Ignore. It generally helps if I read an email before I respond. Anyway. I assume he means that it's

[uf-discuss] Further reading for those interested in Species

2006-10-03 Thread Charles Roper
I thought for those interested in the species uF, a little further reading to help in understanding the issues involved in species naming and species name usage. Here's a really good introduction to some of the issues: http://www.ubio.org/index.php?pagename=background_intro And here's an

[uf-discuss] Geographic polygons [was geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Kevin Marks
On Oct 3, 2006, at 1:12 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Totally ignored the point I was trying to make... and that is that describing a border - of any shape - by the use of a collection of geo coords (at whatever precision) is

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Here are some additional examples from the Web of currency mixed with measures, some of which differ from the $__ per barrel pattern and a suggested new conceptualization that seems to work with them. http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-examples#Real-World_Examples Here is another

[uf-discuss] History Microformat

2006-10-03 Thread Jeremy Boggs
Hi List, I thought it might be useful to move this to its own thread, instead of under the dated-currency thread. I hope that's ok. i would be very interested in helping to explore a history microformat. In my spare time, I've been collecting examples of history timelines, after

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Colin Barrett
On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: Let me know what you think. I'll put this on the wiki later. The presence of UNECE codes for various units is encouraging. This proposal is shaping up nicely. Could you think of other client uses for just the measurement format? Already

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Scott Reynen
On Oct 3, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: Here are some additional examples from the Web of currency mixed with measures, some of which differ from the $__ per barrel pattern and a suggested new conceptualization that seems to work with them.

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Scott Reynen wrote: I think this is a good example of the benefits of modularization. I think all of these various measurements would be more useful if they were more widely published, and I think the best way to get them widely published is to keep them as separate microformats addressing

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Colin wrote: This proposal is shaping up nicely. Could you think of other client uses for just the measurement format? Already described in this thread were some excellent uses for measurement + currency (e.g. searching job listings). Thanks Colin. For just the measurement format, of course

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Instead of criticizing the structure of his argument, why not reply to the content? Perhaps you missed th fact that I did. Minimally, at best. So, first you insinuate that I did not reply to the content, then you

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Or the capacity to describe a polygon... I call the 80/20 rule into effect here. Fine, I'm confident that more than 80% of countries,

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Colin wrote: This proposal is shaping up nicely. Could you think of other client uses for just the measurement format? Already described in this thread were some excellent uses for measurement + currency (e.g. searching job listings). Thanks Colin. For just the measurement format, of course

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes consider this URL: http://flickr.com/map/?tag=yankeestadiumfLat=40.828081fLon= - 73.920821zl=7 That's showing a blank page, with just a Flickr header, for me. -- Andy Mabbett Say NO! to compulsory ID Cards:

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Colin Barrett
On Oct 3, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Your pedantry is becoming quite grating. Someone once wrote that 'Pedant' is what people who care about accuracy are called, by people who don't Don't you think that pedantry is important, when considering matters relating to specifications

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Kevin Marks
You'll need a Flash-compatible browser - their geotagging is Flash-based at the moment. (we'd better get HTML-defining and evangelising to convert our Flickr friends) On Oct 3, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: [uf-discuss] geo - accuracy of coordinates

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colin Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes There is a great difference between concern for accuracy and pedantry. If you cannot make that distinction, then well, I honestly don't have anything more to say to you. Every cloud has a sliver lining. I'd appreciate it if

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki spamming

2006-10-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I've just reverted some porn spamming from the main page of the Wiki - someone might want to remove the user concerned. I dd so again, a few hours ago. -- Andy Mabbett Say NO! to compulsory ID Cards:

Re: [uf-discuss] hAlias vs hCard

2006-10-03 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Scott Reynen wrote: On Oct 3, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: The information you put in your hCard is up to you. You can just write an hCard with a nickname... Yeah, I'm confused about this. Isn't the whole point of having an alias to keep it distinct from your normal identity?