Hi Lorenzo,
There has already been some work done on groups... and I'd caution
against suggesting such far-reaching changes off the bat to a core
microformat. It's a sure way to give yourself away! ;)
http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-February/003192.html
Your always welcome to use HTML class name semantics or other
microformat-inspired technologies in your private applications. However,
that is a different thing that calling it a microformat and engaging this
whole group in vetting and supporting it. If you think this could be a great
solution
Scott:
I'm still not convinced. I've only heard generalities and no specifics on
anything I've heard regarding my use-case. RDF is far to complicated for
the average person creating HTML; one reason why I don't think it will ever
fly. I still know of nothing else besides Microformats that can
On 10/26/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. That maybe solves this use case. Can you do the same using link
in the head in case you don't want the hyperlink visible? Or what about
on a div within body? And do you know if the search engines pay any
attention to this?
A question about compatibility...
The code:
li class=vcard personspan class=fn nTantek Çelik/span/li
is compatible with the standard code:
li class=vcardspan class=fn nTantek Çelik/span/li?
On 10/26/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Lorenzo,
There has already been some work done
On 10/26/06, Lorenzo De Tomasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The code:
li class=vcard personspan class=fn nTantek Çelik/span/li
is compatible with the standard code:
li class=vcardspan class=fn nTantek Çelik/span/li?
Yes that's correct, an hCard parser will ignore any classes it's not
aware of[1],
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ciaran
McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
@rel=bookmark
I've seen several people refer to such things with an opening @ - what
does it mean?
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Ernie Prabhakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
As long as you don't call it a microformat, feel free to experiment.
:-)
Why shouldn't he call it a microformat?
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On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ciaran
McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
@rel=bookmark
I've seen several people refer to such things with an opening @ -
what
does it mean?
I'm not sure on the etymology, but they're referring to attributes
On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr.
Ernie Prabhakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
As long as you don't call it a microformat, feel free to experiment.
:-)
Why shouldn't he call it a microformat?
Because it hasn't gone through the (fairly
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The 'wiki' page on rel-enclosure:
http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-enclosure
say that its spec (sic) is a draft, as of 2005-06-21
Is that still the case and, if so, has nothing changed in over a year?
[and so on]
On Oct 26, 2006, at 3:07 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
I'm still not convinced. I've only heard generalities and no
specifics on
anything I've heard regarding my use-case. RDF is far to
complicated for
the average person creating HTML; one reason why I don't think it
will ever
fly. I still
On 26 Oct 2006, at 18:35, Colin Barrett wrote:
On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ciaran
McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
@rel=bookmark
I've seen several people refer to such things with an opening @
- what
does it mean?
I'm not sure on the
The thread around invisble microformats reminded me of this example from
the visible Web. Maybe relevant to this discussion, if not relevant to
the include-pattern.
An index page (http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/oilprice.html)
contains currency information that applies to all pages
The process of what moves something from draft to specification is
a little bit of a mystery to most of us, I think...
Regards, etc...
David
On 10/26/06, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
The 'wiki' page on rel-enclosure:
Hello Andy,
Does the status of them really matter?
The specifications are there... and people can read them... and use
them if they choose to.
IMO... it would be better for these Microformats to become widely used
before making these specifications hard in stone. Perhaps there's
some problems
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Charles
Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Does the status of them really matter?
Yes.
Many people - and especially organisations - will be wary of applying
something which is described in such as way as to imply the likelihood
that it will change before
I had a discussion about this in Shelley Powers' blog comments a while
back:
http://just.shelleypowers.com/technology/ajax-myth-busting/#comment638
what I said then was:
What is data and what is metadata depends on the content and the
context.
If you have a series of key/value pairs where
Hi.
I've recently soft-launched a distributed identity webapp that I've
split out of another project, and released several aspects of that
application as open standards ( Creative Commons Attribution-No
Derivative Works 2.5 License )
I don't know how / where to submit it for potential
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Does the status of them really matter?
Yes.
Many people - and especially organisations - will be wary of applying
something which is described in such as way as to imply the likelihood
that it will change before being widely
On 10/26/06 11:22 AM, Guillaume Lebleu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
include-pattern support for data outside of the current page?
Guillaume,
My apologies for not clarifying this on the include-pattern page - I could
have swore I had done so, and it was one of these core aspects of its design
that
What do you think of using rel-enclosure to point source data -- for
example, an HTML table that's source created from a CVS, XLS, or
SQL/JSON data source that's URI addressable?
Regards, etc...
On 10/26/06, Kevin Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had a discussion about this in Shelley Powers'
Hi Jonathan,
On 10/26/06, Jonathan Vanasco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi.
I've recently soft-launched a distributed identity webapp that I've
split out of another project, and released several aspects of that
application as open standards ( Creative Commons Attribution-No
Derivative Works 2.5
Hello Jonathan,
(This does NOT have anything to do with the Microformats aspect of it, but)
Just out of curiousity, why the No Derivative part for the license
for the specification? (To be open wouldn't anybody need to be able
to make derivatives, and not just one person or more group of
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Here're some suggested additions:
I set that the page http://microformats.org/mailinglists-policies/
has recently been updated, and some of the suggestions posted here
included, but not others.
What's the reasoning behind
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I set that
I see that - apologies for my typing!
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On Oct 26, 2006, at 8:04 AM, Ben Ward wrote:
On 26 Oct 2006, at 18:35, Colin Barrett wrote:
On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Ciaran
McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
@rel=bookmark
I've seen several people refer to such things with an opening @
On 27 Oct 2006, at 00:58, Colin Barrett wrote:
@ represents an attribute, so @rel=tag means @rel tag with the
value ‘tag’. The most advanced I've seen it get in general
discussion is of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED], which means ‘element
named foo with an attribute bar with value ‘sheep’.
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