Re: [uf-discuss] hreview using include pattern

2007-10-09 Thread Ben Ward
On 9 Oct 2007, at 00:57, Brian Miller wrote: In looking at the hreview examples (apple, readandtravel) who have a similar structure, they usually repeat the item information in each review and use css to hide it. This seems messy from a semantic and accessibility point of view. Most

[uf-discuss] OBJECT include pattern and excess HTTP requests

2007-10-09 Thread Ben Ward
Hey hey, Quick question for people publishing hReview. Long ago when the OBJECT-include pattern was first raised, there was a bug in Safari that made it unworkable. That bug got fixed. However, there appears to be a separate, very serious browser issue whereby browsers are making

Re: [uf-discuss] OBJECT include pattern and excess HTTP requests

2007-10-09 Thread Duncan Cragg
I've swapped for the hyperlink include pattern (however, repeating the review item name as the InnerText of the anchor, so as not to create poorly accessible empty anchors). +1 My feeling is that the Wiki content on the include pattern needs a tidy anyway, but if this issue with firing

Re: [uf-discuss] Operator's support for Include-pattern in hcards ?

2007-10-09 Thread LucaP
Thanks Dimitry your suggestion fixed it! I still see problems with multiple-words family-names given-names in Operator. ciao ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

[uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hey all, I need to do a presentation on the semantic Web and all the articles I read about it talks about RDF and usually show this schema: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W3c-semantic-web-layers.svg Could anyone please tell me what's the relation between the semantic web and microformats,

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Andy Pemberton
http://www.tantek.com/presentations/2004etech/realworldsemanticspres.html On 10/9/07, Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I need to do a presentation on the semantic Web and all the articles I read about it talks about RDF and usually show this schema:

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Tom Morris
On 10/9/07, Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, I need to do a presentation on the semantic Web and all the articles I read about it talks about RDF and usually show this schema: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W3c-semantic-web-layers.svg Could anyone please tell me what's

RE: [uf-discuss] hreview using include pattern

2007-10-09 Thread Brian Miller
Great, so I can use the object. So back to the original question: Can the item information be separate from the first review and just included in the first review using object? If yes, then does that item information need to be wrapped in hreview? Any tools to test and validate? Brian Miller

Re: [uf-discuss] hreview using include pattern

2007-10-09 Thread Ben Ward
On 9 Oct 2007, at 18:39, Brian Miller wrote: Great, so I can use the object. So back to the original question: Can the item information be separate from the first review and just included in the first review using object? If yes, then does that item information need to be wrapped in

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Kevin Marks
On Oct 9, 2007 10:27 AM, Tom Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The microformats community works on the basis of having the data embedded into the HTML. The RDF/SemWeb approach looks to have a consistent data model, and then having as many representations as you like of that data model. The data

Re: [uf-discuss] Operator's support for Include-pattern in hcards ?

2007-10-09 Thread Mike Kaply
If you could out a testcase up, that would be great. Thanks Mike On 10/9/07, LucaP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dimitry your suggestion fixed it! I still see problems with multiple-words family-names given-names in Operator. ciao ___

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Patrick Aljord
Thank you all Tom and everybody for your great answers, keep them going :) On 10/9/07, Kevin Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a little spurious, Tom - the issue is not parsing it, it's translating the parsed results into something that has meaning to a human. That you can express things

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 10/9/07, Andy Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tantek.com/presentations/2004etech/realworldsemanticspres.html thanx for the link, I remember of another presentation of tantek çelik that was about using your website as an API, it looked a bit like that one but more recent maybe.

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Patrick Aljord
On 10/10/07, Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanx for the link, I remember of another presentation of tantek çelik that was about using your website as an API, it looked a bit like that one but more recent maybe. Any idea where I could find it? found it :)

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Tom Morris
On 10/10/07, Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/07, Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanx for the link, I remember of another presentation of tantek çelik that was about using your website as an API, it looked a bit like that one but more recent maybe. Any idea where I

Re: [uf-discuss] semantic web and microformats

2007-10-09 Thread Kevin Marks
Note that is more then 2 years after the original 'can your site be your API?' presentation by me and Tantek... great to see these ideas spread out. Drew's slides are much prettier though... and he cites 'fork handles' http://epeus.blogspot.com/2007/07/end-homographophobia-now.html On Oct 9,

Re: [uf-discuss] OBJECT include pattern and excess HTTP requests

2007-10-09 Thread Michael MD
My feeling is that the Wiki content on the include pattern needs a tidy anyway, but if this issue with firing unwanted requests is unfixable, I think we should restructure to promote the hyperlink- include as the first-choice solution. I would agree with that... even here such extra unecessary