Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Drew McLellan
On 11 Mar 2008, at 05:24, Christopher St John wrote: Manu is currently one of the most active and productive contributors (much more active recently than any of the admins) and the lead editor on a complex and important microformat, yet his points have gone completely unanswered. Isn't it a

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Christopher St John
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Drew McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Mar 2008, at 05:24, Christopher St John wrote: Manu is currently one of the most active and productive contributors (much more active recently than any of the admins) and the lead editor on a complex and

Re: [uf-discuss] XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread David Janes
Weird -- I was just doing the same research and came up with somewhat different conclusion! Sorry for the formatting here -- just cut and paste from a spreadsheet. I'll have a look at your list though to include in my master ;-) SiteFormat Buzznet FOAF Del.icio.us N/A DiggCustom,

[uf-discuss] rel=tag problem

2008-03-11 Thread David Meade
Microformat Folks - I was hoping that some of you who are well versed on what is or isn't a microformat specification (vs draft), and specifically the rel=tag microformat could weigh in on an issue that WordPress seems to be having with their rel=tag implementation. Many of us believe they've

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Jesse Rodgers
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Christopher St John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how about those among the current admins who are sick of it step down and we have some elections? To be followed by an open, documented, public discussion of how the community wishes to be governed? I believe

Re: [uf-discuss] XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread David Janes
Hi Tom, Thanks. I don't see Twitter friend information being publicly available though; you need to be logged in, do you not? I was compiling this table for my own benefit; once you get to logging it gets worth taking about the API rather than microformats because you don't have to worry about

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Drew McLellan
On 11 Mar 2008, at 13:10, Christopher St John wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Drew McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Mar 2008, at 05:24, Christopher St John wrote: Manu is currently one of the most active and productive contributors (much more active recently than any of the

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Christopher St John
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Drew McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That we even seen to spend effort having this conversation rather than working on microformats is further evidence of that disruption. Andy was acting as a stalking horse for many community issues. It wasn't fair to

[uf-discuss] Re: XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread Toby A Inkster
Costello, Roger L. wrote: So it would seem that XFN provides a richer and lighter-weight set of information and would be a better choice for social networks. XFN provides a richer set of *relationship* information, but FOAF provides more than relationship information -- it also includes:

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 11, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Christopher St John wrote: Sarcastic answers may be appropriate for individuals (or not) but they certainly are not appropriate for people acting in an official capacity on the list. Drew can clarify whether he was being sarcastic, but I'd like to clarify

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Manu Sporny
Drew McLellan wrote: The simple fact is that the microformats community is *not* a lot of work, save for the disruption Andy has caused. That we even seen to spend effort having this conversation rather than working on microformats is further evidence of that disruption. Drew, We are

[uf-discuss] SitePoint HTML Reference beta

2008-03-11 Thread Drew McLellan
Looks like the new SitePoint HTML Reference site (just launched today in beta) has a nice section on microformats: http://reference.sitepoint.com/html/microformats As it's a beta launch, I'm sure the guys at SitePoint would appreciate any technical feedback. drew.

[uf-discuss] Request for Microformats.org MediaWiki SQL data

2008-03-11 Thread Manu Sporny
This is a request for the Microformats.org MediaWiki MySQL database data. If one of the admins could do a mysqldump of the database (or selected tables) and place it onto a public HTTP/FTP site, that would be ideal. WARNING: Do not dump the password or e-mail field for the user table. I'd like

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Toby A Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Costello, Roger L. wrote: So it would seem that XFN provides a richer and lighter-weight set of information and would be a better choice for social networks. XFN provides a richer set of *relationship* information,

[uf-discuss] Governance Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-11 Thread Ernest Prabhakar
Hi Manu, On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Manu Sporny wrote: To date, 10 people have voiced concern about the length of Andy's ban and the methods used to ban him. That is a clear indicator that there is a disconnect between the admins and the community. I encourage you (and everyone) to add

[uf-discuss] Re: XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread Toby A Inkster
Tom Morris wrote: It's not a choice - you can use both, and you can extend your FOAF with other predicate Indeed. One could even use XFN with FOAF: rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#; xmlns:xfn=http://gmpg.org/xfn/11#;

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread Premasagar Rose
Toby A Inkster wrote: Going the other way around: p about=#aliceAlice a rel=foaf:knows friend href=#bobBob/a./p p about=#bobBob a rel=foaf:knows friend href=#aliceAlice/a./p Now that's something I'd never thought of... Prem. -- http://premasagar.com | http://dharmafly.com

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Premasagar Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toby A Inkster wrote: Going the other way around: p about=#aliceAlice a rel=foaf:knows friend href=#bobBob/a./p p about=#bobBob a rel=foaf:knows friend href=#aliceAlice/a./p Now that's

Re: [uf-discuss] microservices

2008-03-11 Thread Gustavo
Hi Tom, Thank you for your answer. Comments inline. Tom Morris wrote: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Gustavo Garcia Bernardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how a web application could publish the support to offer a service for a type of microformat (i.e. hotmail could publish

Re: [uf-discuss] Request for Microformats.org MediaWiki SQL data

2008-03-11 Thread Rob Manson
Hey Manu, here's another way you can get the same data as the admins generally don't seem to have time to respond to system level requests. A few months back I downloaded all the irc logs from: http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats/IRC/ All wiki edits are logged here. Then I used a