the
links be inactive and greyed-out until available?
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It never ceases to amaze how many people will proactively debate away
attempts to improve the web
, but I'll let the
website try to finish explaining to you as it eventually needs to speak for
itself.
Thanks in advance for your consideration.
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It never ceases to amaze how
Oops! Oh well, nothing said that I wasn't going to present to the
Microformat community eventually!
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to
be concerned about, so I gave up on and quit actively monitoring this list.
No, what I was saying was that there ALSO needs to be a way for someone who
is a content author to disambiguate a microformat WITHIN the body IN
ADDITION TO and as an alternate for using @profile in the head.
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Paul Wilkins wrote:
Mike Schinkel wrote: Printable version please! Ane that
doesn't take 12 pages to print... (He also grumbles about
lack of back button in presentation but glad the
presentation was not 96 pages...)
The slideshow was built using S5, A Simple
Standards-Based Slide Show
, and they numbered far
less then 10. There are hundreds of web apps for content publishing with
tens of millions of server installations; I don't see them being 'fixed' any
time soon. :-(
FWIW.
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-Astoria-Photo.html rel=ahahphoto/a
Oh course this last suggestion will probably run me afoul of the microformat
police since rel=ahah hasn't even been officially proposed yet and I
didn't bring it up on [uf-new]... ;-P
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to
put limits on users freedom of speech. I personally will fight anyone
whose world view attempts to separate those who are anointed as being
better and mere users where the better ones are the only ones who are
going to get to publish rich content on the Internet, everyone else be
damned.
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and the
way the technology has been developed, and its level of
maturity.
But wouldn't you agree, people tend to use the promise of a tool as a crutch
when they should instead strive to make things in the raw grokable by humans
first?
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week!
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It never ceases to amaze how many people will proactively debate away
attempts to improve the web...
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microformats
.
I've actually recently been thinking about a related question. i.e. what is
a person's canonical URL? Google Roy T. Fielding, Bill Gates, Linus
Torvalds, or even John Allsopp or Mike Schinkel and tell me which URL
is the canonical URL? I've been planning to blog about this for weeks. Do
you
of mysite.foo [2].
Still, one problem with using example.{tld} is it makes it confusing when
your example uses two sites, i.e. mysite.foo vs yoursite.foo is clearer than
example.com vs. example.net.
BTW, is http://exmaple.com also reserved too? ;-)
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that is.)
but yes I think we agree. :)
You do enjoy being pedantic, don't you? ;-)
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It never ceases to amaze how many people will proactively debate away
attempts
://
theryanking.com/blog/contact/#vcardRyan King/a, not
to add anything to the actual URL.
Cool!
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It never ceases to amaze how many people will proactively debate away
old resource on the web, but
that it is in fact pointing to a more detailed hCard.
I think that makes a huge amount of sense. Determining authoritativeness is
hard, leave it to another initiative and get almost everything else needed
w/o it. Great suggestion.
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
http://exmaple.com/opensearch.xml
I just researched this and it appears that Amazon/A9 are *not* using
Well-Known Names but instead using autodiscovery on a link element[1].
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and I'm still confused.
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It never ceases to amaze how many people will proactively debate away
attempts to improve the web
these:?
http://mysite.foo/robots.txt
http://mysite.foo/favicon.ico
http://mysite.foo/w3c/p3p.xml
http://mysite.foo/sitemap.xml
http://mysite.foo/crossdomain.xml
http://mysite.foo/smbmeta.xml
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that are used
appropriately on the web today.
It really makes more sense to look at the use-case rather than to issue a
blanket edit of prohibition. FWIW.
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It never ceases to amaze how many people will proactively
can do. If not,
I'll just do what works for me and not worry about it for now.
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an instance where a footnote is referenced form two
different points in the text.
Thanks. I guess what I'm asking is if there is interest from others to take
footnotes through the official microformat process?
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, brings it up in
a floating window, for instance.
Exactly. The only use-case I forsee is for blog footnotes. There may be
others, but in the spirit of going with existing markup, using for a blog is
what I'm currently[1] doing.
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as it appeared you were
advocating for a nsfw tag with providing examples.
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Does anyone know if there is a canonical List of Link @rel attribute
values?
Are there any standards, conventions, etc. anywhere?
Thanks in advance.
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propose it and/or make it clear that it is your own proposal
and not one that has been through the W3C's process. Also, I think it could
really benefit by going through the process (but if it already has, I'm
surprised given the ambiguities in the spec.)
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are publishing NSFW
warnings.[1]
Can you please provide some examples of real world publishing behavior?[1]
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[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/why-examples
used
the Link element as it not visible; am I incorrect on that?
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[1] http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations.html
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[1] http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2002/07/10/italy-porn.htm
[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_Oath_Controversy_of_the_110th_United_Stat
es_Congress
[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands
question
was off-topic, but I was pretty sure someone here would know and wasn't sure
exactly where the question would have been more appropriate.
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There they go again, using the name Microformats w/o permission... Time to
beat them with a wet noodle! ;-)
http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/hcup_microformat.html
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prevention measure.
That is only true when humans are doing the updating. It is not necessarily
true if the pages are generated from a database and the database is what
gets updated.
It also does not consider non-visible metadata that is created by apps such
as CMS, Wikis, Blogs, etc.
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[1] http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html
[2]
http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-November/0072
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of the metadata.
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Siegfried Gipp wrote:
Am Samstag, 16. Dezember 2006 08:31 schrieb Mike Schinkel:
You are making an invalid assumption which is that
I'm concerned about my markup. No, I'm not. I've
concerned about the need for a standard to be
created so that a body of knowledge and tools can
(at least currently) do not.
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% compliant parsers.
That seems self-evident. Does it make sense to allow
compliant parsers to ignore compliant microformats?
+1
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Aren't claims that you are respected by ___ kind of arrogant?
That made me laugh! :)
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...
22.) Constrained to enhancing known use-cases.
I've recently come to believe that working without a use case
is silly.
Let me rephrase that. Constrained to enhancing use-cases currently
published on the web (as opposed to use-cases for data planned to be
published on the web.)
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working on some sort of microformats support, this is just
another example of it.
Then there is a need for a transitional solution.
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it.)
What's needed is agreement here so that many people here can go there to
tell Ian that it's important, and why. Otherwise he'll say It's not clear
to me that that is important and it won't happen.
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working on some
other ideas.
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S. Sriram wrote
What you have is a 'classic branding problem' ...
Excellent analysis. Al Ries is my hero. :)
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of people
will implement.
But that said, it's now clear to me that the microformat brand is not going
to address my concern. No need to discuss any more; it's a dead issue.
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Ciaran McNulty write:
On 12/14/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious, what did you mean by double entendre markup?
It means 'double meaning'.
Sigh A double entendre often refers to something with a negative
meaning. I was basically asking if that's what he was implying
the version to 1.2.
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As an aside, at the risk of starting a firestorm, it would be nice if there
were a way to let the user decide his one relationship, i.e. maybe
a rel=custom: href=...John Smith/a
Where is of course the person's one identifier. Basically this would
allow people to create a folksonomy.
to your analysis in the near future.
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spend 5 minutes each time trying to track down that URL!
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into an untenable
corner if you don't rationalize it. Again, FWIW.
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[1]
http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org
of Bloggers and blog-related services
18.) Emphasizes general purpose needs
19.) Focuses on existing content publishing models
20.) Aims to avoid changing publishing behavior
21.) Envisions exposing existing content semantically
22.) Constrained to enhancing known use-cases.
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will propose it to the Microformat community.
Now you can go crazy with your double entendre markup
Just curious, what did you mean by double entendre markup?
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make much sense to require publishers to point to
profiles which don't exist.
I do agree that (something like) this is needed. One of my pet peeves is
specs that require a URI but don't require it to be a URL, i.e. resolvable
to documention and ideally metadata.
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author unable to use two conflicting microformats in the same document
unless of course Profile URI resolves those ambiguities. I do look forward
to your clarification on Profile URIs.
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[1] Looking at ADR, here
to professional:
Respect, admire, impressed by,awed, revere, worship, idolize, iconize. If
would be nice if there was a way to extend professional respect and
admiration.
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that behavior in such a way so that
we can help computers understand that data better.
Chris, are you aware that Ian Hickson and Lachan Hunt on the WHATWG list are
prescribing microformats as the generalized extension mechanism for HTML
(whenever anyone asks for a more generic extension mechanism?)
-Mike
for that matter. All I care is that we get a simple disambiguation
strategy included in the recommendation.
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Benjamin West wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Is there a difference
between lowercase microformats and uppercase microformats?
lowercase microformats = unofficial semantic markup embedded in HTML
uppercase microformats = Official Microformat
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, name, rel, rev, scope, size, src, type, and value.
I hadn't had the chance to ask the uf-discuss list about this, so now is a
perfect time. What about adding additional standard attributes to all
elements. Would it be helpful?
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to have the Microformat community splintered for
lack of a viable solution to a real problem. Maybe prefixes aren't the
answer, but I haven't heard an alternate presented.
Respectfully,
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, I suck a making up names too. ;-)
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a disambiguation conventions to keep
official Microformats from conflicting with proto- Microformats?
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not
acceptable, don't you agree?
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if I
decided to start marking up documents, as an example, using the class
directory and license, for purposes other than rel-directory and
re-license? How could my markup and those Microformats co-exist in the same
HTML document?
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of potential for collision such as the
one above, which is an example of a planned use.
But maybe Profile URIs can solve this. Can you please explain how, using my
example?
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S. Sriram wrote:
They would simply co-exist. Period
My only response to your comments is that I strongly disagree with you, but
as you appears you have a similar conviction it would be a waste of time to
debate it further.
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Ironically, this sounds like another real-world (i.e. not hypothetical)
example of the need to provide a way to differentiate microformats.
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; Microformats has a
responsibility to the web at large to ensure Microformats can scale, but all
I've seen is resistence to even consider that (which is one of the reason's
I've been quiet lately.)
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[1] http
For those on this list who are not following [whatwg], here is an
interesting thread about inability to use Microformats:
http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2006-December/00
8462.html
I wonder if his issues can be addressed?
-Mike Schinkel
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
What about:
a class= tag isbn href=http://www.example.com/wibble/71194301X;
which could be a URL on the same site as the citation,
or on a trusted bibliographic website.
Agreed, but is there the latter?
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of URLs with documented metadata, we should probably all play
smartly by the rules as specified by the W3C, at least IMO.
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[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/metaDataInURI-31
looked at the ISSN URN (RFC 3044)?
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3044.txt
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Thanks for the article.
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Subject: [uf
;
this post/a/cite
by a href=http://theRyanKing.com/; Ryan King /a.
*INSERT FLAME HERE*
I don't want to say that the blog post annoys me, I want to say that the
commentors on the blog post annoys me. :-) Thoughts on that usage?
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website, this is what I think is needed. Now I haven't tried to
reconcile any of this to hlisting or anything else more than just a cursory
glance.
I look forward to everyone's thoughts and input.
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Frances Berriman wrote:
On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andy Mabbett wrote:
c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment:
For example, several academic and professional taxonomists
have
told me in e-mail that they would
), but do
not have the time to follow a general mailing list; indeed, a
couple asked me specifically if I would set up a separate
mailing list for the subject.
Funny how we get to have deja vi all over again, eh? ;-)
-Mike Schinkel
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to this
email. As sich I do not appreciate being chastized in a public forum for
voilating your choice of how you would like things to be handled when your
guidance on how to handle the situation was given in retrospect.
Respectfully,
-Mike Schinkel
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. Microformats will be nowhere nearly as useful I as first assumed it
to be.
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Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:31 PM
Schinkel wrote:
Ouch. Sounds like a trademark fight might occur, as commercial
entities lawyer's tend to recommend that kind of thing...
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On 11/7/06, Mike Schinkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that would make it unlikely that they could sue
anyone since
Anybody can sue anyone for anything and hence eat up lots of lawyer bills.
Whether they'd win is another subject. ;)
Chris said that it is similar, and if MicroFormat Ltd's lawyer
that it appears you
want to address.
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elik
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Ouch. Sounds like a trademark fight might occur, as commercial entities
lawyer's tend to recommend that kind of thing...
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title=QuinlinQ./abbrnbsp;
span class=family-namePublic/span,nbsp;
span class=honorific-suffixM.D./span/
/span
/span
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I just don't want to be checking a mailing list, wiki AND a forum.
On that point I've proposed integrating the mailing list AND the forum, to
give people the option of which of the two to use. So you wouldn't have to
check all three.
-Mike
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presence and
identity.
I don't see why one would have to create a completely new identity. I
almost always use MikeSchinkel or Mike Schinkel as applicable except in
the rare cases I want to be anonymous. Not so helpful for John Smith, but
for most of us it's not an issue.
You can link it to your
Chris:
I mean, once you're into personal preferences,
Just a point of note, I brought my preferences up only to show that there
were counter preferances and that one-sided preferences shouldn't be the
driving factor. Which was a much more verbose way of saying what you just
said.
But rather
administer a vBulletin forum right now and
it takes almost no time at all. You don't have to worry about issues with
POP3 and SMTP so it IMO is actually easier.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
http://www.welldesignedurls.org
to process Microformats
abstractly so that new ones can be added after IE8 has shipped? And if that
is possible, wouldn't it make sense for us as a group to go ahead and
specify a standard way to define that abstraction?
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog
http://www.welldesignedurls.org
Charles,
Funny, I've been planning to write a blog post entitled something like
What's the one thing wrong with Open-Source? Forking! :)
-Mike
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Iliya Krempeaux
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:45
Is it good for the interpretation of the data on one page to rely on data
on another page? anyone has an opinion?
My knee-jerk reaction is that it is very bad practice to have what would
essentially be the legend to be on a separate page. Very, very bad. When
I use to teach programming, one of
Because it hasn't gone through the (fairly rigorous) demands of the uF
process -- the process page on the wiki[1] outlines this.
But what I'm hearing is that if it's not visible it cannot go through that
process...
-Mike
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Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Schinkel
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cardinal sin
Is this a pragmatic group that I'm working with, or a bunch of
religious zealots that I've managed to get entangle
that is *only* for machine consumption
Conversely, if he's unsure whether the metadata *has* to be invisible,
then perhaps this is still a worthwhile discussion.
For clarity, there is nothing that says that the metadata I was proposing
and am additionally envisioning couldn't be visible. It
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Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
On Oct 26, 2006, at 3:07 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
I'm still not convinced. I've only heard generalities and no
specifics on anything
it. As long as you don't call it a
microformat, feel free to experiment. :-)
- Ernie P.
On Oct 25, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Thanks Charles.
However I still have no idea why these things apply to specifying
which page among of group of equivalent pages is authoritative and why
To: Microformats Discuss
Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?
On Oct 25, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Thanks Charles.
However I still have no idea why these things apply to specifying
which page among of group of equivalent pages is authoritative and why
Andy Mabbett Why not create a new mailing list for each proposal, once
it's reached a certain stage?
I tend to really like this proposal. I've been thinking about if and how
Microformats can evolve and grow.
I can see Microformats being potentially much larger helping to create tags
in many
Thanks Charles.
However I still have no idea why these things apply to specifying which page
among of group of equivalent pages is authoritative and why Microformats do
not. The latter seem a perfect fit to me, and what you listed either don't
apply to general web pages, are years off and can't
Search engines make use of shingles to identify pages and their aliases.
What's a shingle?
As far as I can tell, this isn't in the same class of problems that
microformats solve.
Is there a clear and definitive objective statement that explains the class
of problems that microformats are
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