Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-30 Thread Martin McEvoy
Hello all The First thing every one notices when you start Firefox for the first time Is how Simple it is to use. Operator works nicely with Firefox because it too is simple and easy to use, especially when you use it as an icon in the location bar, you dont even know its there until you visit a

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Pelle W
Alex Faaborg skrev: This is a bit of a hack, but it is also considerably easier than asking the author to write javascript to check navigator.userAgent, know which browsers handle microformatted content (and subsequently update this as it changes), and then display the link accordingly.

RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Farndon, Tony
Not sure I quite understand this (so a good example of a general 'blogger' wanting to put uf on their blog/site), are you saying that the blogger/webmaster is deciding the actions rather than fx3 or an Operator like extension. Using your example code, would I be required to put in a multitude of

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Alex Faaborg
are you saying that the blogger/webmaster is deciding the actions rather than fx3 or an Operator like extension. No, the browser should still act as a mediator between data and applications, otherwise people will tie there information to particular apps (like what is currently happening

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alex Faaborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The last class is new: div class=user-action style=visibility:hiddenAdd to Address Book/div The text Add to Address Book is hidden by default, unless the browser (or an extension) recognizes user-action ...or unless the

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Alex Faaborg
Instead of having to checking whether the userAgent is right or wrong in my javascript - wouldn't it be possible to check for the presence of any hCard-related function instead? Yeah, if we wanted to solve this problem with javascript, that is probably what we should do. But I'm a little

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Pelle W
André Luís skrev: One thing I need someone to clarify: Is that div.user-action inserted by the user-agent, in this case, Firefox 3? Or do the authors have to include that code on their pages? This wasn't very clear to me... I've understood that it's inserted by the web developer to enable

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Alex Faaborg
I've understood that it's inserted by the web developer to enable him/her to implement the Microformat-actions in their own designs and it's suggested that the class user-action should be used to indicate that something is meant to be a link to such an action. Yes, while previous Firefox

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Reynen
On Aug 28, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Alex Faaborg wrote: Yes, while previous Firefox designs have focused on the browser injecting UI into the page, this discussion is about how the content creator should provide links and buttons for acting on microformatted content. It seems you'll still need

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Alex Faaborg
Perhaps instead of new classes and protocols, we could just do this completely in javascript. Here is a general example, probably all the function names would end up being different: div id=hcard-Alex-Faaborg class=vcard span class=fnAlex Faaborg/span div class=orgMozilla/div div

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Manu Sporny
Alex Faaborg wrote: Yes, while previous Firefox designs have focused on the browser injecting UI into the page, this discussion is about how the content creator should provide links and buttons for acting on microformatted content. I'm probably being a bit dense, but it looks like we're

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Pelle W
This idea is really good, the best possible I think. If there is a need for interaction on a website then the options are limited to the browser UI and the script languages available, right? And this way you're suggesting the user will have the possibility of adding their own interaction with

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Manu Sporny
Manu Sporny wrote: Here are some other examples: action://map/find/eiffel-tower action:// Sorry, here are the other examples: action://location/find/eiffel-tower action://license/fulltext/Harry-Potter-and-the-Order-of-the-Phoenix action://feed/subscribe/cool-hatom-feed

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-28 Thread Alex Faaborg
My apologies if I'm reopening a long closed debate, I'll be sure to review the wiki page. Side A: Publishers should be able to specify UI elements for their Microformatted content in their HTML. Side B: The browser should be solely responsible for injecting UI into the page I should note

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-27 Thread Alex Faaborg
Sorry for the long delay in posting an update to this thread, we are still working on finalizing the UI for interacting with microformats in Firefox. Here is something Mike Beltzner, Mike Kaply and I have been considering for microformat handling in Firefox 3, in terms of the content

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

2007-08-02 Thread Thom Shannon
did you carry on working on the idea of showing whats a microformat in the page? There was talk of a mouse cursor change when a user hovers over. The last mockup i saw had an icon at the end of the address bar with action. I think both of those would be a good way forward. I started a thread