Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-27 Thread mark gibbons
Thanks for all of your comments. My current take is this: - I will be continuing to develop this format using suggested route. - I will be following this group and contributing if approriate (I think microformats is a good solution to a real problem). - I will ask this group periodically for

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-27 Thread C. Hudley
On 3/23/06, Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the same vein as classification of plants, we might want to explore making a simple microformat that mimics the classification system of the taxonomy of organizims. Kingdom-Phylum-...Family-Species. That way additional microformats (such as

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], mark gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I am developing a microformat proposal for plants. What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber? -- Andy Mabbett Say NO! to

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes title=homosapien ITYM Homo sapiens (two words, capital H, closing s) -- Andy Mabbett Say NO! to compulsory ID Cards: http://www.no2id.net/ Free Our Data: http://www.freeourdata.org.uk

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber? Is there really any ambiguity here? The former two are the same thing, no? Does a plant become something

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Marks
On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Scott Reynen wrote: On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber? Is there really any ambiguity here? The former two are

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Paul Bryson
Breton Blake Slivka wrote... However, a species classification microformat would fit right in with the other broadly applicable microformats on microformats.org. Indeed. Creating a more generalized microformat, that can be specifically applied to plants, seems like a pretty good idea. This

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes What do you mean by plants? Garden plants? Plants as studied by botanists? Plant-material, such as cut flowers, or planks of timber? Is there really any ambiguity here? The former two are the same thing, no? Does a plant

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Ryan King
On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Do we need to clarify that we're not talking about plastic plants or photos of plants also? Is that really the level of debate, here? Alright, let's slow down a bit here.

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Paul Bryson
Mark, Good job starting, but you will want to make your examples a little more descriptive. For instance, not just listing the types of information on a site, but how that information is displayed. img src=/graphics/icons/DBluFore_AspSun.gif alt=Sunshine Levels - Sunfont class=ForeLobetc.

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Marks
On Mar 24, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Ryan King wrote: Let's take a step back and think about whether a microformat for plants is worthwhile– Microformats are solutions to common problems, which means they often end up being low hanging fruit. That doesn't mean, however, that all low-hanging-fruit

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Chris Messina
Skipping back a few posts... On 3/23/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Breton Blake Slivka wrote: My thought is that it's a very specific microformat, which sort of bucks the trend of very broadly applicable microformats thus far defined and set as

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-24 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Ryan King wrote: I've so far stayed out of the discussion about a plant microformat, mostly because I don't really care about talking about plants on the Web. Let's take a step back and think about whether a microformat for plants is worthwhile– We should

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:20 AM, mark gibbons wrote: Hi, I am developing a microformat proposal for plants. Please take a look and join in if you wish. http://microformats.org/wiki/plant-examples I don't understand what problem this microformat would solve. The stated problem seems to be

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-23 Thread mark gibbons
Hi, I don't understand what problem this microformat would solve. The stated problem seems to be basically there's no microformat, which doesn't really explain why there should be. Thanks for the reply Scott. I would be the first to admit it is a niche, but here would be a few scenarios

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:12 AM, mark gibbons wrote: I would be the first to admit it is a niche, but here would be a few scenarios where I can see this as useful. - Collection of distributed plant information from the web into larger plant databases. - Plant catalogs can be published by retailers

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:43 PM, Paul Bryson wrote: but it doesn't have the major problem of identification with the latin terms acting as unique IDs. Is there any page that discusses the potential issues of using IDs in microformats? Oh, I didn't mean ID attributes - just something to

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-23 Thread Brian Suda
I'm not a botanist, so i don't know all the intricacy of plants, but as with all new microformats it is suggested that you get examples from other sites and how they describe plants. These means that you will need to collect what properties other sites use such as, TYPE, WEATHER, WATER, AMOUNT OF

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-23 Thread Breton Blake Slivka
Brian, if you look at the wiki, it would seem that he already has done much of what you list. I'm with you so far as defining the simpler microformat first for the Latin classification system. My thought is that it's a very specific microformat, which sort of bucks the trend of very broadly

Re: [uf-discuss] Plants Microformat

2006-03-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Breton Blake Slivka wrote: Brian, if you look at the wiki, it would seem that he already has done much of what you list. I'm with you so far as defining the simpler microformat first for the Latin classification system. My thought is that it's a very specific